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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article review. Please do not modify it. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or at Wikipedia talk:Featured article review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was kept by User:Joelr31 01:59, 8 January 2009 [1].

Photon

Review commentary

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This article no longer appears to meet FA specifications.

  • The lead section does not comply with WP:LEAD. There are seven paragraphs, whereas WP:LEAD recommends a maximum of 4. It needs to be re-edited.
  • More importantly, there are multiple paragraphs and sections that are not properly cited.
  • There is overlinking. For example, momentum is wikilinked 5 times; wavelength 4 times; electromagnetic radiation 8(!) times, frequency 4 times, polarization 4 times, quantum mechanics 5 times, Albert Einstein 5 times, &c. Some obvious terms shouldn't need links, such as lens, matter, mass, energy, eye, physics, vision (twice),annihilated and chemistry. "Compton scattering" is not linked at first occurance.
  • "More daringly" and "perhaps more remarkably" don't seem neutral and the opinions are not explained.
  • Some of the citations are inconsistently formatted.
  • "position eigenstate" is not explained, per WP:Jargon.
  • There are minor format issues, such as spaced em-dashes, plus hyphens where an en- or em-dash would be appropriate.

&c. Overall it is still in somewhat decent shape, so some cleanup and references should be sufficient.—RJH (talk) 20:32, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Many of these changes are relatively small. Don't you think it would be more productive to make at least some of the changes yourself, and/or to make some suggestions on the talk page, rather than starting the good 'ol de-featuring timer? -- SCZenz (talk) 13:07, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Yes, normally I would often take care the minor issues myself. But, in this case, the problems with the lead and significant lack of references seemed sufficient in themselves to trigger an FAR, so I decided to do a review instead. The neutrality issues also seem like subjects that need to be addressed by an SME.—RJH (talk) 17:34, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • The lead is honestly utterly terrible, now that I look in detail. It appears that it has suffered bloating due to POV-pushing and arguments, with the attendant over-precision. It has inaccuracies, as have been discussed recently on Talk:Photon. I think it needs a complete rewrite, and I will work on this, along with the references. The rest of your points are minor as I said above -- and I still wish this had been handled through means other than featured article review, like an ordinary message to WP:WikiProject Physics. -- SCZenz (talk) 17:51, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Young Diffraction.png source is a little weak. Can we have a reference to the original? DrKiernan (talk) 17:04, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's apparently from a presentation given to the Royal Society around 1803. See for example [2]. -- SCZenz (talk) 17:48, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'll try to add at least some more of them over the next few days. Markus Poessel (talk) 22:13, 3 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've done some work on the refs, so that should make Sandy a bit happier about them, but it's not complete. There's a lot of plain hand-formatted text that'll need to be turned into template text, but the big job is done (multiline, uniformize some outputs, preliminary citation bot run, etc, split into notes and refs, ...). A suggestion for the body would be to textify the simple math, and to use \scriptstyle for what cannot be converted. I'll keep working on the refs for some time, so if someone could take care of the math, that would be nice.Headbomb {ταλκκοντριβς – WP Physics} 05:36, 28 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

FARC commentary

Suggested FA criteria concerns are citations and lead. Joelito (talk) 17:04, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The re-written lead looks good to me. And as far as I can see, all but two of the sections needing additional citations have received them. I'll see if I can rustle up sources for the remaining uncited paragraphs, but it looks to me like restoration of the article has progressed pretty well, which is why I was caught a bit off-guard by the move from FAR to FARC. Markus Poessel (talk) 21:09, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • There was still one citations-needed template left which I just removed (there is a cite for the last paragraph and the other paragraphs are basic and not controversial). With all the improvements, this article should be a keep. --RelHistBuff (talk) 23:28, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Fixes still needed: not happy generally, but the main work remaining is that the article mixes citation styles, using the citation template and the cite xxx family of templates (see Wikipedia:CITE#Citation templates and tools re not mixing styles) ad there are many incomplete citations (ex: Sheldon Glashow Nobel lecture, delivered 8 December 1979. ) and an inconsistent citation style with respect to author name, date fields, and the citation vs. cite xxx templates. I fixed a lot of other little things myself, think the prose could be clearer, but won't object. The citations should be cleaned up, though. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:38, 20 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Several weeks, fixes still needed, still missing publishers and needs citation cleanup (Samples: Sheldon Glashow Nobel lecture, delivered 8 December 1979. Abdus Salam Nobel lecture, delivered 8 December 1979.) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:15, 1 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.
The following is an archived discussion of a featured article review. Please do not modify it. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or at Wikipedia talk:Featured article review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was kept by User:Joelr31 21:49, 4 January 2009 [3].

M62 motorway

Hi. I am nominating this article, of which I am a significant contributor, for featured article review to ensure it still meets the standards for FAC. The reason I am nominating this article is that it was promoted around a year ago, and standards can change in that long a period. I'm hopig to gain opinions on how to update it to today's standard. Thanks! Sceptre (talk) 13:06, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image check OK. DrKiernan (talk) 15:31, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note No concerns have been brought up in this FAR. If no concerns are brought this FAR will be closed. Joelito (talk) 16:47, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.
The following is an archived discussion of a featured article review. Please do not modify it. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or at Wikipedia talk:Featured article review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was kept by User:Joelr31 13:49, 5 January 2009 [4].

Bryce Canyon National Park

Review commentary

This article was promoted four years ago, and needs many inline citations to meet current standards, since it only has one currently. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 21:39, 11 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I still have the same books used as the listed references and will add inline cites. --mav (talk) 01:00, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Off the top of my head (can't do much as I am enmired elsewhere but a couple of things stick out) - if the article were bigger, the gallery section could be integrated nicely in the article. As it is only 24k, there should be scope to do this. Things I'd like to see embellished are flora, and the two bulleted segment faunal regions could be expanded and made into paragraphs. National Parks are about preserving environments, so focussing on some of the biological is a fantastic was of introducing readers to the delights of biology. With most articles I do, especially plants, I slot in (or help the main contributor) scientific names - the Everglades is a good example. Be good to add a bit on the soil types as well. Can expand on the threats to the park, and are there any endangered plants or animals which depend on it? I will ping Moni3 too as she did all the Everglades ones... Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:12, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Many inline cites added. Please add fact tags as needed and I'll track down any remaining items that need inline cites. As for images: I would rather remove the gallery and reduce the size of the large photo than to expand the article solely to accommodate them. The amount of info in this article is already proportionate to its size and the amount that can be written about it. This is a small park that protects pretty much just the erosional features and small areas beyond them and therefore has the same flora and fauna as the corresponding life zones in the High Plateaus. --mav (talk) 00:30, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    OK, I know next to nothing about US natural history, so am ignorant. Even small parks here in Oz often have something unique in them. Many restricted species do occur across an area of similar space to a park but the park is the only place that is protected by legislation. Agree that the sole reason for expanding the article should not be to accommodate images. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:37, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I just gave this a quick copyedit/MOS flyover. I left a couple inline comments for you, mav. Maralia (talk) 02:18, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Great edits thanks! I'll take a look at those comments. --mav (talk) 01:59, 3 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think I found all of your comments and addressed them. If so, I think we are done with this FAR. --mav (talk) 01:06, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • I tweaked a few more things, and have only one lingering question. You modified this sentence to suit me: "A nearby example of amphitheaters with hoodoos in the same formation but at a higher elevation, is in Cedar Breaks National Monument, which is 25 miles (40 km) to the west on the Markagunt Plateau." The sentence itself parses now, but it is dangling at the end of a paragraph about the weather at Bryce, and I can't figure out why. Grasping at straws - are you trying to make the point that hoodoos form even at higher elevations? Or does the sentence belong somewhere else? Maralia (talk) 02:06, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

FARC commentary

Suggested FA criteria concerns are citations. Joelito (talk) 16:39, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Removed status

Wikipedia:Featured article review/First Crusade

The following is an archived discussion of a featured article review. Please do not modify it. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or at Wikipedia talk:Featured article review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was removed by User:Joelr31 01:59, 8 January 2009 [5].

Warren County Canal

Review commentary

Notified relevant parties: User:PedanticallySpeaking (was the only main editor, was also nominator) and Wikipedia:WikiProject Ohio (only project listed on talk page)

1(c) - currently lacks inline citations. It has 3 inline citations. [Background: was nominated over 3 years ago and has not been reviewed since. Only one main contributor, whose account has not been used in over 1 year.] Tom B (talk) 12:13, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

FARC commentary

Suggested FA criteria concern is citations. Joelito (talk) 16:44, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.
The following is an archived discussion of a featured article review. Please do not modify it. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or at Wikipedia talk:Featured article review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was removed by User:Joelr31 01:59, 8 January 2009 [6].

Growth of the Old Swiss Confederacy

Review commentary

Notified Sj, WP Switzerland, Lupo

Almost total lack of inline citations & use of foreign langauage references(english ones are preferred on the english language wikipedia). ʄ!•¿talk? 08:55, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Told User:Sj, Wikipedia:WikiProject Switzerland. --Redtigerxyz Talk 13:17, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Told User:Lupo. ʄ!•¿talk? 14:54, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Per the instructions at WP:FAR, please complete the notifications and post them back to here as in the sample at Wikipedia:Featured article review/Asthma/archive1. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:27, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just to clarify, suggested FA criteria concerns are referencing (1c), including issues regarding WP:WEASEL and WP:NONENG. Concerns also regard consistent citations(2b), with almost all missing page numbers contrary to WP:CITE. ʄ!•¿talk? 14:44, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

FARC commentary

Suggested FA criteria concern is citations. Joelito (talk) 16:43, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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