Talk:Warriors (novel series)

Foreign editions

I just created a new section about foreign editions in the Warriors series. I think a picture of one of the foreign editions would be helpful, but since I have no experience in uploading images, I thought I'd ask here for someone to try and do that. Thanks! Shrewpelt (talk) 04:32, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Loaded one from Japan and one from Russia ClawClaw (talk) 20:26, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Just added the Japanese one. I had to delete the cover from this page because of fair use. Shrewpelt (talk) 21:52, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

New Layout

This page got a makeover!! me no like... >:( 76.27.108.99 (talk) 02:48, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

What are you referring to? Epass (talk) 12:06, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

I think 76.27.108.99 is referring to the section names. An IP user changed them, so I think I'll change it back to how I had it if there are no objections. Shrewpelt (talk) 12:47, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

I think the new layout is fine, but I the article is good either way. Epass (talk) 20:10, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

I have changed the section names - or some of theme. It was just that Super Edition and Field Guide needed to be plural, the manga volumes should be under one section heading, and having ' (the flying comma thing) around section names isn't good. Hope you agree with me. If not, please say. Shrewpelt (talk) 21:09, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

The Rise of Scourge

Under the manga section, the rise of scourge, it says one manga will be about Scourge. But all the other mangas are in trilogies. It doesn't seem right. Does Scourge have a trilogy, or is it just a single book? Epass (talk) 22:05, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

I think it is a stand alone manga. Shrewpelt (talk) 13:39, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Actually, I think on one of the AuthorTrackers it said that Scourge was going to have a trilogy. I'm not really sure though, as I deleted the email, but I'll research.  Spottedstripe_(Talk2Me) 02:00, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

It was confirmed to be a stand alone manga. Anonymous —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.124.167.172 (talk) 19:41, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Outcast and Warrior's Return

Why aren't there pages for these? They will come out in April - or some time like that - which is pretty close. Plus, I have the links to their cover pages, to put on the page. Of course, I'm not too skilled at creating new pages. Technobecian (talk) 22:16, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

We don't have pages because not enough info about the books has been released yet to create a new page. Never fear; when the books come out, I'm postive that new articles will be created.  Spottedstripe_(Talk2Me) 02:01, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

I just read the 4th Wands & Worlds chat. We now know that, in Outcast, Millie's pregnant, Squirrelflight has Foxpaw as an apprentice, and Brightheart possibly as Icepaw's mentor, Daisy's mate is Spiderleg (uh-oh) and she has a new litter, Jaypaw's future warrior name will be Jayfeather, and there's more that I forgot.

Bramblestorm (talk) 03:47, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

I have typed out on my computer the article for Outcast. Once the book comes out, I'll add the plot summary and the major events section and then put it up. With the plot summary, it should be able to make DYK. It would be very helpful if someone could upload the cover once I make the article. Also, if anyone is going to the Erin Hunter tour in April, please try to take a photo and upload it, because it would be a helpful picture in one section. Thanks! Shrewpelt (talk) 13:32, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

I am now typing out articles as well for Warrior's Return, The Rise of Scourge, Cats of the Clans, Eclipse (Warriors), and Into the Woods (still need to type the last two). However, I'm wondering if these will need to be taken to Deletion Review first. I don't think so, but I thought I'd ask before going ahead. Also, I won't be adding the articles for these books until they are released, so I'll have time to improve them in light of any new info. Thanks! Shrewpelt (talk) 02:07, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

OK, we will need a deletion review for Outcast, but I'd first like to talk with admin who blocked the page from creation. Does anyone know who protected it? Thanks, Shrewpelt (talk) 12:44, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Outcast (Warriors) was put through WP:DRV and was remade. Shrewpelt (talk) 01:26, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Someone needs to update the outcast page. I mean the book came out a few days ago and it still reads like it hasn't come out. Rembrant13 (talk) 19:40, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

warriors

warriors are cool —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.139.156.41 (talk) 12:24, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your support, but this is a Wikipedia article that discusses changes that need to be made to the main article. Please take your chat somewhere else. Thank you!  Spottedstripe_(Talk2Me) 11:53, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

GAC?

OK, I have been working for several weeks on this article, as well as Moonrise (Warriors), to get them up to scratch. I think they could be nominated as Good Article Candidates, but I want to know what you think of the articles and the idea of nominating them. Thanks! Shrewpelt (talk) 16:35, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

I think you should go for it! Somebody's really done a nice job with Moonrise, I think both are worth a try. ~ Bella Swan 13:27, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

I checked the links with the link checker tool - I think they are good. I think the two articles meet standards. Any other comments or concerns? Shrewpelt (talk) 16:38, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Added some stuff about the Russian translation of Moonrise, as well as adding the front cover image. I'll nominate in a few days. Shrewpelt (talk) 01:01, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

The two articles are nominated. Keep watch on the talk page for future developments. Let's see how this goes... Shrewpelt (talk) 02:11, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Cover Of Tigerstar And Sasha: Into The Woods

http://warriorswishs.proboards75.com/index.cgi?board=updates&action=display&thread=1205664667 Should we post it anywhere??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.27.108.99 (talk) 02:39, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, we can only really put it in an article about the book itself, and the book doesn't meet the guidelines for notibility, which means we should not create an article for it. That means that we really have no use for the image at this point. ~ Bella Swan 13:25, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, and I already know where the Cats of Clans cover is too. It shows Windstar, Shadowstar, Thunderstar, and Riverstar on the cover. (Ginger tom, black and white cat, black cat, and a silver/gray one.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.189.25.118 (talk) 20:20, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, unsigned person. I was wondering who those cats were.

Bramblestorm (talk) 11:38, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Proposals

I am proposing four new things. Comment below.

1. A Portal dedicated to the Warriors series. I would be willing to update the article. You can see what the portal would look like here.
2. Articles about the Clans that are Out of Universe. If this is a success, we could create articles on SkyClan, the Tribe, BloodClan, and others. See here for an example of what the article for ThunderClan would look like.
3. Articles for Secrets of the Clans and the as of yet unreleased books being created. For the later, the creation would not happen until the book was released. As I have already said, I have articles typed out for the books and manga with titles.
4. The renaming of WikiProject Warriors to WikiProject Erin Hunter to allow coverage of Seekers (novel series) and the individual books the authors have created, like Bloodline (2005 novel). I am only proposing this here because the WikiProject page doesn't get much traffic; if there is intrest in this, I'll move this part of the discussion to the WikiProject Warriors talk page. Shrewpelt (talk) 21:17, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I really like the last thing, changing it to WikiProject Erin Hunter. That makes more sense than a lot of things I've seen lately... Anyway, yeah, if we all agree on that, I say go for it. Regards,  Spottedstripe_(Talk2Me) 11:52, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Portal:Warriors has been created. Shrewpelt (talk) 19:40, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

CATS IN THE SREIS

Shouldnt there be a list of cats

Jnw222 (talk) 20:06, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

They were deleted a while back. Griffenflash (talk) 20:58, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

We need another list. I mean the amount of characters I can't keep track of them all. I went to the Warrior's website and it said that Hazelpaw (Brackenfur and Sorreltail's kid) had died. When did that happen? We need the list back. Rembrant12-not logged in. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.10.224.148 (talk) 19:37, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

There is another list in the making right now. It's not as inspiring to me as the last one however (I was helping out back then, under the name Oceanstream). Bramblestar (ShadowClan Leader) (talk) 22:04, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

The list is up and includes pretty much every character in the series (with the exception of Ashfur, which I will fix soon), but the writing is awful. I've been trying to clean it up but people keep coming through and changing the stats at the bottom of each character. We need a uniform stats guide and some better writing. -wolfraptor 192.35.35.34 (talk) 13:37, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

The list has been up as List of characters in the Warriors novel series, just so everyone knows the link. ~ Bella Swan^? 14:05, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Alright, about the whole thing where you've put the bullets about the cats under their section, that is a very bad idea. As it is, the article is massive, and could easily be deleted. Adding bullets make the article look even more unprofessional, and the WP:Manual of Style discourages this, and says that we need to write sentences about the subject, not bullet information about it. So, I would highly suggest that the person who is putting the bullets on the page stops, and starts conveting the information into sentences before someone tags the article for deletion. ~ Bella Swan^? 15:03, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

They were gone. Someone just put them back up...fairly quickly, I might add, did the whole page in 3 days...but I'll take them off once again. Wolfraptor (talk) 16:12, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

GA Failed

This article has failed the GA noms as it seems to be mostly focus on the "in-universe" aspects of the story (see WP:WAF) and has a lack of "out-of-universe" material to make an NPOV article. The article is also a bit disorganized and can greatly benefit from a copyedit. It is otherwise very well sourced and accurate. If you fee that this review was in error, feel free to take it to WP:GA/R. Thanks. Tarret ^talk 21:54, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

I think I have adressed all concerns. I'll nominated soon if there are no concerns. Shrewpelt (talk) 18:07, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

It has been nominated. Shrewpelt (talk) 20:31, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Series Comics

Erin Hunter Came To My School Today And I Asked Her About The Comics! She Said Coming Up Will be The Ravenpaw, Scrouge, and Tigerstar ones But In 2010 They Will Be Realeasing The Comics From The Series (Based On Into The Wild, Fire and Ice, So On...). I Think That Is So Cool! I Can't Wait Till 2010! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pgcool (talk • contribs) 03:07, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Really? There will be ones based on the novels? *sigh* Pretty soon, there will be more manga than there are books. -_- 76.27.108.99 (talk) 03:44, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

That's What She Said... I'm Don't Care So Much If There Are More Mangas Then Books But As Long As The Keep Making The Books i Fine With It xD Pgcool (talk) 04:20, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Which Erin Hunter was it? Was it Vicky, Kate, etc.?  Spottedstripe_(Talk2Me) 18:17, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

GA review

Okay, let's go through the criteria.

1. ? Reasonably well-written: This article only just squeaks by on this one. This is an article on a series of children's books, but some of the sentence structure is very complex: "Warriors is a series of fiction novels written by , under the pen name Erin Hunter" - Better to say something like "Warriors is a series of children's novels written under the pen name Erin Hunter, detailing the lives of various clans of wild cats. Writing is split among Kate Cary, Cherith Baldry and their newly recruited third author, Tui Sutherland (who used to be their U.S. editor), using plot ideas by storyline editor Victoria Holmes." I believe there's a project devoted to this; I'd suggest finding a copyeditor, because it's VERY HARD to fix your own writing.

However, that said, I think it's probably good enough for GA, though not FA.

2. Factually accurate, VErifiable: yes.

3. Broad in coverage?: Broad enough.

4. NPOV: Sure.

5. Stable: Eh... good enough. The talk page doesn't appear to be a seething den of insults, anyway.

6. Images: Basically, just means checking you have a fair use rationale and that sort of thing. You do.

The writing concerns are minor and only crop up at a couple points, everything else is fine. Hence, I am promoting this to GA. Good job! Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 10:38, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

So, are you an admin or something? Thanks for the promotion! Regards,  Spottedstripe_(Talk2Me) 18:18, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Trivia Sections

Whoever keeps adding the sections that say something like 'apprentices made:...' of whatever, they are trivia, and unimportant detail. These are the kind of things that got the articles nominated for deletion in the first place. So, can we please stop readding them to the articles? ~ Bella Swan^? 00:38, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

List of characters in the Warriors novel series

The List of characters in the Warriors novel series page is sitting without references on my watchlist, and I'd rather not see someone come by and tag it with a PROD or something like that. Could someone go over and put some primary source references on it, from the books? I'm pretty sure that's all it'd need, being a page split off of this. Cheers, guys! --lifebaka (Talk - Contribs) 15:29, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Excellent point. I've referenced all the characters to their respective books. Hope that helps. ~ Bella Swan^? 22:59, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. It looks good to me. Happy editing! --lifebaka (Talk - Contribs) 03:09, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Just a side note, lifebaka...you have a very, erm...interesting name. Can I ask what the meaning is behind it? Regards,  Spottedstripe_(Talk2Me) 18:16, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

The page has undergone some serious reconstruction in the past few months, but it still needs work. I'm working on it, though :) Wolfraptor (talk) 18:58, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Interwiki Links

I've been adding interwiki links to the Warriors Wiki under an ip. Is this ok? I thought it would make the articles look better if there were links to inportant topics, such as main characters, etc., and it would also be more informative to the reader.
Eulalia459678 (talk) 15:51, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't really see a reason why it wouldn't be OK...I mean, all you're doing is linking things from the Warriors Wiki, right?  Spottedstripe_(Talk2Me) 01:04, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Right. I was hooked on Warriors after hitting random page, and landing on the Warriors page. I went to my local library, got the first book, and was amazed. I eventually became a bureaucrat on the Warriors Wiki, and well, that's really irrelavant. Anyway, I'm just adding links to the WWiki as further reading. I just wanted to make sure you didn't have some kind of rule against links to Wikia wikis. You don't have a list of ctas anymore, but the WWiki does, which can be found at w:c:warriors:Category:Characters, w:c:warriors:Category:ThunderClan Cat, w:c:warriors:Category:RiverClan Cat, w:c:warriors:Category:WindClan Cat, w:c:warriors:Category:ShadowClan Cat, w:c:warriors:Category:BloodClan Cat, and w:c:warriors:Category:SkyClan Cat.
Thanks for the response,
Eulalia459678 (talk) 17:33, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Ok, those links aren't working. I guess Wikia interwiki links are different than Wikipedia's. 75.110.95.248 (talk) 21:10, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

We're actually supposed to avoid external linking in the middle of articles, and I removed the links before I saw this topic, but it would be best if we just had a link to the wikia, and used at for refs. It is also said here that if the link that is being used in the article is not a citation, it should be put under 'external links', which they are there under the Warriors Wikia link. ~ Bella Swan^? 16:13, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Wayne McLoughlin

I just created the Wayne McLoughlin page, but as I'm not sure what to do to the talk page, I just saved it and left it. Eulalia459678 (talk) 19:16, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Warriors Wish Link

I shall bring up again the issue of a link to Warrior's Wish fansite on the wikipedia article. As the webmaster, I want to have my site be the most popular, and referred. Because Ww is an excellent, exceeding source of information, excelling above most disgusting fansites of Warriors, I believe it is appropriate a link to my site be re input to this article.

An exclusive interview with Victoria Holmes as well as other documented reviews, interviews, chapter summaries, characters fits this criteria. I would like to add this link for now. Please bring up any concerns here and hopefully we can reach a consensus.

Warrior's Wish is an excellent resource for people looking to learn more about the series and to join in on the community, and offers different information then the wikipedia article can provide.

www.warriorswish.net

Blizzardclaw (talk) 23:44, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

It's not up to the editors to choose which links go where. WP:EL says explicitly that no fansite are allowed to be considered sources or link unless they are the 'offical' fansite (run by the author) or all their information that we use from that site is gained from another reliable source on the internet. The only real issue with your site and fansites in general is that no matter how organized or neatly the information is put on the site, technically, anything can be put there by the webmaster that need not nesecarily be backed up by other sources, so there is a chance that the information could be a rumor, and not true. Linking to certain things such as interviews on the website would be fine, but linking to the enitre website would be wrong, as Wikipedia cannot guarantee that all, or most, of the information would be correctly represented. ~ Bella Swan^? 16:11, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Book section

Wwwoooowww...what happened to the book title section? It's hard to tell what is from what series. It needs some clean up.  Spottedstripe_(Talk2Me) 14:32, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

I think se whould wait and see what other people think cause I like it the way it is now... Pgcool (talk) 04:09, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

I would like to have it changed back. It almost seems like it is advertising the books, with basically the back cover descriptions on it. Shrewpelt (talk) 22:58, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

I've changed it back now. It just wasn't a very good way of presenting the information. A couple things are still bothering me: ref 42 and the lead. Ref 42 seems to be based on a unreliable source - it's a blog. The lead seems to be a little short for the legnth of this article. Any comments?

Well, looking at that ref, they are talking about a Warriors movie because they saw this information posted on Wikipedia, and the other other ref I could find [1] also got their info from Wikipedia, so I don't even think that section should be there. Somebady might have heard it on a tour or something, but there is no other reference to it. ~ Bella Swan^? 18:19, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm going to remove the source; it isn't notable. It isn't an official interviewer and has not been published as a third party source. I'll keep the information in case someone does find a reputable source, but until then I'll just put up a 'citation needed' thing. WhiteArcticWolf (talk) 17:50, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Secrets of the Clans and Rise of Scourge

Why aren't there articles for Secrets of the Clans and the Rise of Scourge? Hawkfrost18 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 21:51, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Because they do not cover Wikipedia's guidlines for notability, articles should not be made about them. ~ Bella Swan^? 13:35, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

But if each of the books in the Graystripe trilogy has it's own page, shouldn't Rise of Scourge get one? And if Cats of the Clans can have a page, shouldn't Secrets of the Clans get a page? Hawkfrost18 (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 22:30, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Both of those books have not recieved significant coverage by the media, and it would most likely turn into an article with a picture and bloated plot summary anyways. As for Cats of the Clans, it is on the brink of being deleted itself, as it is basically a picture and plot summary, and probably should be deleted. I suggest we concentrate on improving the articles we already have, rather than trying to create new ones. ~ Bella Swan^? 18:30, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

So, I guess in response to this, someone just decided to dump the entirety of The Rise of Scourge's plot into Scourge's character description over on the Characters page. Geez, I'm gone 3 days and the page is taken over by minions! Wolfraptor (talk) 16:15, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

6th Book: Cruel Season or Sunrise?

Where does it say that the sixth book in PO3 will be called Sunrise? There's no citation or anything. It sounds too much like the titles in the new prophecy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.27.108.99 (talk) 02:08, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Vicky confirmed that the title had been changed by HarperCollins. I think the fifth EH chat'll have a mention of it somewhere. TakaraLioness (talk) 02:31, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Movie?

I have placed {{fact}}tags around the Movie section of this article, we need a source for this, and if no reliable source is given, the previous text for the Movie section of this article will be replaced.--Res2216firestar (talk) 16:22, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Please do not repost the bit about a movie being likely without a reliable source, there will be another Erin Hunter chat this month, it will surely be brought up there. Thanks--Res2216firestar (talk) 18:17, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

We've got a decent source, but it only says it is likley, however, it can stay up.--res2216firestar (talk) 00:23, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

GA Reassessment

This discussion is transcluded from Talk:Warriors (novel series)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the reassessment.

In its current state, this article does not meet the GA criteria.

• Prose: Not so great overall. There are a lot awkward sentences, and the general quality should be improved.
  • I have asked a copyeditor to look over the article. Shrewpelt (talk) 12:30, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

• References: This is the worst area. I count 17 references to [http://www.amazon.com Amazon], as well as several to Barnes & Noble and Powell's Books, all of which are not acceptable or appropriate for use as references. This alone is enough for de-listing. One reference in particular, currently number 8, a link to http://www.theguttersnipe.co.uk/, no longer exists, although it is referenced 7 times.
  • Right now, these are for reviews and release dates. The authors themselves have said that Amazon is a realiable source. As for citation 8... The site is a bit annoying. It changed recently, so you have to do a bit of web surfing to get there. And you can't really link it, because (I think) the site is flash. I'll look for some references to cover these citations. Shrewpelt (talk) 12:30, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
    • Even so, these sites should not be used as references, not for release dates and especially not for reviews. For one thing, these reviews are all going to be biased, because the sites want you to buy the book; besides that, it's just not a reliable source. We need to reference the review in its original form (I know it's more difficult but it's the proper way). Mr. Absurd (talk) 15:06, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
      • I've tried to get some of these reviews, but they all appear to be on websites where you have to register to see the reviews. What do you suggest? Shrewpelt (talk) 16:36, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
        • I've found some reviews myself, using several databases (mostly from my city's library system). Check your library's site to see if they have access to any databases. I'll add some references to what I've found so far. Also try http://www.accessmylibrary.com/, it's pretty good. Mr. Absurd (talk) 02:00, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
          • Thanks for the help! It looks like the Crit. Reception section has most or all of its references fixed. There still are some more citations to be fixed, mostly about release dates. Shrewpelt (talk) 23:48, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

• Original research: The "Themes" section either contains original research or needs more detailed inline citation—right now it's not clear what specific details are referenced, and quotes especially need to be cited as well.
  • Hmm... that would require having the same citation in twice in a row, like this:

Another theme shown in the books shows how characters can be a mix of good and evil. Holmes has said she is fascinated by these "shades of gray" in personalities. Her example of this was when Bluestar, a "lovely" cat, gave up her kits for her ambition. A third major theme, called nature versus nurture, relates to whether a person is born the way he or she will be, or if other things shape that. This theme ties into the "shades of gray" theme. Other themes that have been pointed out include family, loss, honor, bravery and death, loyalty, and following rules.

• It just wouldn't look right. Shrewpelt (talk) 12:30, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

In a more general sense, the article is a bit messy, with a lot of confusing sections and sub-sections that could be cleaned up a bit. In my opinion, this article was very prematurely promoted to GA, and still needs quite a bit of work before it's up to that quality. I'm going to give about a week to try to get this article back up to snuff, and then reassess it to decide if it should be delisted or kept as a GA. Mr. Absurd (talk) 06:36, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Another thing: Do the books use British or American spelling? I would assume British... if so, the article should be standardised that way, and a message left on the talk page (right now, I see both "centres" and "centers", as well as "color"). Mr. Absurd (talk) 15:12, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

I believe that there are versions for both. Which would you prefer? Shrewpelt (talk) 16:36, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

As the authors are British, I think we should standardise with British spelling. Mr. Absurd (talk) 02:00, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Problem is, I really don't know British spelling. I will try to change the spelling using American and British English spelling differences, if I can. Shrewpelt (talk) 23:48, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

I will help with the cleanup, I think that this article has really improved since 2007, but it still needs some work.--res2216firestar (talk) 17:24, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Delisting

After leaving this article on hold for just over a week, I'm now delisting it from good article status. Some of my concerns were met, mostly concerning the sub-par references, but most of this work was done by myself (rewriting and referencing the critical reception section and the lead) and not much was done by others. The entire article still needs to be cleaned up, much of the prose needs major copyediting, and still more references must be fixed to meet the GA standards. Mr. Absurd (talk) 02:34, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

The following bit of text looks alot like speculation and should probably be removed: "However, there have been many rumors of a warriors movie, so there are possibilities that it has changed since then, but until there is definite news of one, we should just keep hoping."

Any agreements? Drakonis (talk) 17:21, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

I totally agree, also, "we should just keep hoping" violates WP:NPOV, as many fans believe that a movie would not be true to the books.--Res2216firestar 00:07, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Eclipse/4th series details

Where are we getting the details about Eclipse from? I've seen a couple of direct details from the book's storyline that have appeared on these pages with no references, including Lionpaw's, Hollypaw's, Jaypaw's, Cinderpaw's and Breezepaw's warrior names and one involving a certain character's death. Also, the reference listed for the name of the 4th series ("4th Apprentice") does not, in fact, give a name for the series. Can we verify these claims? Wolfraptor (talk) 20:25, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

We'll at least be able to verify the fourth series' name once the transcript of the most recent Erin chat is up, along with Jaypaw's name. I think the other claims' info is coming from the Eclipse browse inside thing, but I'm not certain. TakaraLioness (talk) 05:45, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

I see. I checked Wands and Worlds and there's been another Author Chat. That's probably where these details are coming from. So no references until someone gets the transcript up. Wolfraptor (talk) 14:54, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Changed it back to version calling it "Fourth series", let's wait until the transcript goes up.--res2216firestar (talk) 02:09, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

• Please stop posting the name of the 4th series as Warriors:the fourth apprentice without sources. Thanks.--res2216firestar (talk) 00:18, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

The administrator of the website that held the author chat has confirmed that Vicky Holmes said that that the name of the fourth series will be Warriors:The fourth apprentice, the post is on a fan forum, but look for the comment by Shelia Ruth confirming the title on page. I am about to cite it, anyone who disagrees, I'm trying to use WP:BRD in this dispute, so be bold in making a compromise!--res2216firestar 20:40, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Okay, an Eclipse page has been made, but it needs to be edited pretty quickly or it will be deleted. No talk page layout, and the article itself is a poorly written plot summary and nothing more. I haven't finished reading the book so I can't edit it yet :) Wolfraptor (talk) 11:51, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Source of new citations

Hey everyone, just letting you know that the new Erin Hunter chat is up, and you can now cite it, as I have begun to. You can find it [2]. Thanks--res2216firestar 22:37, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

translater page

we should make a translator page from cat language to english like you know how they make up some words like kittypet —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.226.111.148 (talk) 06:55, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

See the WarriorsWiki page.--75.110.95.248 (talk) 16:16, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Images

I've noticed the page's main image has been removed. Is it possible to find a replacement? For that matter, what images can we use for Warriors articles? Naturally I would like to add character pictures for the List of Characters page, but the only way to get them would be from Cats of the Clans, which obviously can't work. What are the rules regarding these images, anyway? Wolfraptor (talk) 17:03, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

I've created a image that had the Warriors and New Prophecy series boxed sets in it (there were no other boxed sets) and added it. ~ Bella Swan^? 22:21, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Warriors Radio Drama

What's this doing here? It looks fan-made to me. I don't think it belongs here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.27.108.99 (talk) 02:48, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Removal of the fourth apprentice section

Someone keeps removing the fourth apprentice section, any possible reason for this?--Res2216firestar 18:41, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Was it cited? ~ Bella Swan^? 18:49, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Some of it was problematic, but when I replaced with only enough to confirm the existence of the series (with citation), the same user removed it again.--Res2216firestar 15:49, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

fantasy or not

ive only read the first 6 so i dont know everything but the book really doesnt seem completly fantasyish. The whole starclan thing is more like a religion in the first 6 at least.Mr. Invisible Person (talk) 05:38, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

I think it's considered fantasy in the sense that Redwall is considered fantasy, with anthropomorphic animals and such. TakaraLioness (talk) 16:17, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Warriors Movie

Hi, I am Shaf Girl from the Warriors Wiki. I know from Wiki Answers that there will be a Warriors movie, produced by New Line Cinema. Go to Wiki Answers, type in "Is there a warrior cats movie?" and you will see the details. I think what it says is true. If you don't, ask the Erins and see yourself.--Shaf Girl, Warriors Wiki Member —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.25.4.163 (talk) 18:03, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Wiki Answers is not sufficient per Wikipedia:Reliable sources, we would need a published source or a direct confirmation from New Line or the Hunter team. Thanks--Res2216firestar 20:04, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

I think you're referring to this link, in which the person not only states that warriors is being made into a movie, but that some characters are being voiced by Chris Brown and Rihanna, which sounds pretty unrealistic and not true to me, so it is possible that the whole thing is bogus. Regardless, Res is right, it wouldn't be a reliable source. ~ Bella Swan^? 02:41, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I guess so. When I saw they were putting Rihanna as Bluestar....ick. Now, Chris Brown as Graystripe and Silverstream as Rihanna would have worked.--75.25.30.44 (talk) 02:08, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

FOURTH SERIES NAME CHANGE!!!!!!!

The fourth series will now be called OMEN OF THE STARS! And the first book is called THE FOURTH APPRENTICE! Kind of mixed up, huh? http://wandsandworlds.com/community/node/6709 76.27.108.99 (talk) 05:29, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

A New Reign?

what is this? It says it was confirmed, but is there a link to this?Checkyesjuliet (talk) 21:42, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

It's not confirmed in the slightest. TakaraLioness (talk) 01:05, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Series: Warriors

This summary in the "Warriors" section in "Series" is way too detailed and and focused on the events of one book, with little relevance to the rest of the books in the series. Is everyone OK if I shorten it and put more neccessary information into it? Swiftink (talk) 17:47, 21 December 2008 (UTC)Swiftink

I am fine with that. I acually got onto this talk page to mention that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.88.62.207 (talk) 15:13, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Warriors Movie Rumors Must Stop

Okay, I am seriously getting sick of the warriors movies that are dominating the web. It's not just that I, as a huge warriors fan, don't want one, but the rumors are getting annoying and they need to stop.

Whoever is posting in the "Movie" section of the warriors article that there is a movie, please stop. It is getting annoying.

Sparrowfeather11 (talk) 02:42, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

I agree that this is getting out of hand. Someone completely removed the movie section, I think it should be reverted to the sourced version that showing that a movie is possible. Completely removing it encourages folks who think there will be a movie to post the section. I would like some discussion on that here.--Res2216firestar 04:03, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Cherrypaw

In Spottedheart's short story, she mentions for Cherrypaw to take you to the border. Doesn't that mean that Cherrypaw is in StarClan, and has died? I don't remember reading that...--~*Angelstar*~ 04:04, 8 January 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Angelstarstar (talk • contribs)

Well, that Cherrypaw is in StarClan, but which one are you thinking of? The SkyClan one? That Cherrypaw became a warrior and was renamed Cherrytail. TakaraLioness (talk) 04:17, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Ah, so its a different one. Ok. Thanks.--~*Angelstar*~ 02:24, 9 January 2009 (UTC)