Talk:United States

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Current population (est.): 338,276,000 as of August 20, 2024. The USCB projects 439 million by 2050

The Nation of God

It needs to be mentioned somewhere in the article that America is God's chosen nation, until he allows movement into Israel. Without this, the article seems an insult to the founding fathers, who founded America on the idea that Christ is with us, and America is always morally right. Forever. Mwahcysl (talk) 21:29, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

I hope you don't really mean what you put down, for you must know that such a claim has little basis in fact; unless God has given the world proof that America is His "chosen nation" (though "America" does not appear in any of the scriptures), or that Jesushas spoken of that future land, it does not belong in an encyclopedia. Furthermore, being figures of the Enlightenment, many of the Founding Fathers were deists who rejected organized religion; Thomas Jefferson in particular was a harsh critic of Christianity.

Most the Fathers were of the consensus that religion and state should be independent of each other, an Enlightenment idea. And still, the idea of America being "always morally right" is a matter of opinion, not fact. Mwahcysl, please do not put such things in the article; it would lessen its objectivity and quality, and the quality and stature of Wikipedia in whole. I do not mean to demean Christianity or any of its precepts, but only to reaffirm that an encyclopedia should be encyclopedic and factual.FallingRain123 (talk) 00:30, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

See, e.g., The religious beliefs of the U.S. founding fathers, a neglected work in progress. --Evb-wiki (talk) 02:28, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Clearly a troll... TastyCakes (talk) 20:32, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

US GLOBAL DEBT

US GLOBAL DEBT(Private + Public) /GDP is about 835% against a medioum level of 140% of EU.The Public debt/GDP (considering as well done all over the world FNM and FRE debts)is about 130%.

The main part of evoluted world considering this official datas and other political aspects don't consider anymore Usa a superpower.It's difficult to change official datas by talking.Thanks for your attention.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Campi Lorenzo (talk • contribs) 06:23, January 5, 2009

Surely it is external debt that should be considered for this context? By that measure, the US is at about 99% GDP as seen here, below most European nations. Also, please refrain from making up words such as "evoluted". TastyCakes (talk) 21:18, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

overwhelmingly conservative nation?

Has anyone looked at that yahoo poll that supposedly says that most americans are conservative. First of all, I don't think one yahoo poll should be considered valid in determining the whole politcal ideals of the country. Also, I only saw that is said that a plurity of americans prefer the next president to be moderate, with conservative coming in second. This entire claim seems pretty bogus to me, and I think it should be deleted from the article. Does anyone agree?

Does it say that anywhere in the wikipedia article? If it does, I agree it shouldn't be there, but I can't find it. TastyCakes (talk) 21:36, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

It's under the political ideals or something section, it says that a plurity are democrats but there are more conservatives than liberals. I'm going to delete it and see what happens. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.69.124.65 (talk) 04:51, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Please update the unemployment numbers...

The current unemployment number for December 2008 is 7.2%. The current data reference is the older November 2008 data at 6.7%. The corresponding summary reference link does not need to be changed, however, as it is already referencing the latest DOL December 2008 summary data. Meaning, only a simple number and date change is required to be up to date..

If someone would give me permissions, I would consider it a patriotic duty by keeping the data current from now on... I would also promise to not change anything else as well... :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tgatliff (talk • contribs) 15:02, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Data updated. Thanks.DocKino (talk) 16:22, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

USA cf. U.S.

This has probably been dealt with before, but going through up to 33 archive pages to find out ... well, life's just too short.

Why is the abbreviation "USA" free of periods (full stops), but the abbreviation "U.S." includes them? -- JackofOz (talk) 23:20, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure how to explain it, but grammatical conventions reference books state that "U.S." needs periods while "USA" does not. (Blootix (talk) 20:46, 11 January 2009 (UTC))