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NPOV must reflect consequence
well suggest an alternative phrasing rather then just removing it, describing a military invasion and occupation as a 'humanitarian intervention' is far from neutral too, period. You can't just say lets invade and occupy a country and not also remark on the consequences. liberal imperialism is well known tactic that has been employed for centuries, she has consistently advocated this for years in Sudan and elsewhere which i've given you several links for.
well suggest an alternative phrasing rather then just removing it, describing a military invasion and occupation as a 'humanitarian intervention' is far from neutral too, period. You can't just say lets invade and occupy a country and not also remark on the consequences. liberal imperialism is well known tactic that has been employed for centuries, she has consistently advocated this for years in Sudan and elsewhere which i've given you several links for.
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NPOV must reflect consequence well suggest an alternative phrasing rather then just removing it, describing a military invasion and occupation as a 'humanitarian intervention' is far from neutral too, period. You can't just say lets invade and occupy a country and not also remark on the consequences. liberal imperialism is well known tactic that has been employed for centuries, she has consistently advocated this for years in Sudan and elsewhere which i've given you several links for. Lostexpectation (talk) 19:37, 2 February 2009 (UTC) lostexpectation[reply]

Happy New COTW

Greetings from WikiProject Oregon’s Collaboration of the Week. First off, thank you to everyone who has done work the last few weeks on the last two COTWs. This week we have by request Oregon and California Railroad, part of the lands involved in the Oregon Land Fraud Scandal. Then as part of the Stub elimination drive, we have longtime politician Grattan Kerans, which hopefully can be turned into a nice DYK entry. As always, click here to opt out of these messages, or click here to make a suggestion for a future COTW. Aboutmovies (talk) 10:25, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Camel peer review

Hello, how are you? Since you were one of the main editors in bringing Domestic Sheep to FA status, I was wondering if maybe you could please review Camel, which I have just brought to peer review with the hope to get ideas to eventually give it a GA candidacy. Thank you. -- Fish-Bird (talk) 17:28, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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DYK for List of Oregon birds

Updated DYK query On January 20, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article List of Oregon birds, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Dravecky (talk) 13:40, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Georgia (typeface) vs. Georgia (font)

Hi there. You recently moved Georgia (typeface) to Georgia (font) with the log summary

moved Georgia (typeface) to Georgia (font) over redirect: Georgia is a font. Fonts are a family of typefaces, with typefaces being Georgia Bold, Georgia Italic, etc.

Actually, that's not exactly right. In fact, historically, it's the exact opposite! A typeface is the overall design, including all weights and specific sizes, while a font (or fount) was the physical product of each size of each weight of the design. The terms are now at best interchangeable; see http://fontfeed.com/archives/font-or-typeface/ for a good discussion on the topic. Meanwhile, I would appreciate it if you could move the article back for consistency with all our other articles.

Furthermore, there really is no point in retitling this article "XXX (font)", because even in its broadest modern meaning, a "font" is the digital file containing a representation of a weight of a typeface that can be rendered on screen or in print; a typeface may therefore be available as a set of TrueType fonts, an OpenType font, etc. Our articles are about the designs themselves, not their physical or digital representations or their style/weight subsets, so they really should be titled "XXX (typeface)". Best wishes, Fvasconcellos (t·c) 11:50, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Did you get a chance to read the article I linked to above? Best, Fvasconcellos (t·c) 03:04, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Science of Peace and LeVar Burton

He asked on Twitter for people to put some info in about it. Unfortunately, his legion of followers are largely Wikipedia ignorant. I'm trying to see if I can write something up with proper citations and references and all that. Of course, someone else may beat me to it. Just a heads-up :) Coreycubed (talk) 21:29, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Never mind, you've dropped a prot on there. I'll make up something pretty, do all my research ahead of time and wait for it to expire. Coreycubed (talk) 21:32, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned non-free media (File:Dahnposter.jpg)

Thanks for uploading File:Dahnposter.jpg. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

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RE: CSDs

These are not alternative names for the breeds concerned, and are now orphaned pages. Please delete them. Ottre 08:59, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Horse breeds

Hi. I saw your edit on Donkey. Would you like to help improve navigation among the many horse breed articles? See Template talk:Equine. --Una Smith (talk) 17:27, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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17:40, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for the welcome! L Seed (talk) 17:48, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please show me where blogs are "accaptable as reliable sources". The referall in WP:RS leads to WP:SPS which states: "Self-published work is acceptable to use in some circumstances, with limitations. For example, material may sometimes be cited which is self-published by an established expert on the topic of the article, whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications. However, caution should be exercised when using such sources: if the information in question is really worth reporting, someone else is likely to have done so. For example, a reliable self-published source on a given subject is likely to have been cited on that subject as authoritative by a reliable source." - the LeVar Burton material does not meet this criteria at all. Please revert yourself. Thanks! -- The Red Pen of Doom 01:23, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

While I agree with you that there are certain cases where we can use blogs/self published sources, those occasions would be when the particular blog in question has been identified as a source that has an established track record of reliability and fact checking. Do you have a link to somewhere within wikipedia (or to a standard Reliable Source) that identifies this blog as one that has such a reputation? (Because I disagree with what I interpret as the overall message of your response - that if a traditional relaible source does not exist for a subject that we can use other sources regardless of whether or not they have a reputation for reliability and fact checking). -- The Red Pen of Doom 19:33, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

this discussion is being consolodated here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:LeVar_Burton#Blogs_as_sources_.3F.3F.3F.3F

Dahn-related articles

It is very obvious that a laundry list of accusations from a dismissed court case does not support a neutral tone in the Ilchi Lee article, yet you insist that the article remain as written. Do you really believe the material was NPOV as written? This is yet again evidence of your seeming intention to preserve and contribute biased material in Dahn-related articles. (Most of these edits were made under your alternate user name VanTucky. Sneaky!) This is inappropriate for an editor and even more so for an administrator. What's the beef, Van Tucky? Do you really, really believe it was neutral as written? I am not at all suggesting that the material be completely removed, but the content was way out of line and its relevance has become much lower now that the case has been dismissed. Please stop, look, and consider Wikipedia policy before reverting once again. Nicola Cola (talk) 17:05, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I did not "unilaterally remove" any content from the article. Another editor did, and I agree with your decision to revert that. I revised content that was not neutrally written and is of questionable relevance since the dismissal. This really makes me think you did not even read the revision I made since you characterize my edit as a deletion. Direct quotations from dismissed court cases are not proper encyclopedic content by any stretch of the imagination. Please respond on this thread or on the Il talk page. Nicola Cola (talk) 17:05, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rick Ross and Freedom of Mind RS Issues

If you have time, could you take a look at Talk:Oom_Yung_Doe and Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Freedom_of_Mind_page_on_Chung_Moo_Doe? Thanks! jmcw (talk) 11:02, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Museums & Prisons COTW

Howdy to all those in WikiProject Oregon land! To start, thanks to those who helped improve Grattan Kerans and Oregon and California Railroad as part of the Collaboration of the Week. This week we’ll try and start some new articles with a red link elimination drive on a couple of Oregon lists. So, you have your pick of prisons, or museums. As always, click here to opt out of these messages, or click here to make a suggestion for a future COTW. Aboutmovies (talk) 08:53, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]