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Sanskrit विकिपीडिया:लोगो,लेखन चर्चा

A Request from sanskrit language wikipedia was made at [bugzill bug no.16857] bugzill has requested that,The image should be no bigger than 135 x 155 pixels, please fix it and reopen this bug. undersigned does not have requisite skills needed for the same please some one do help by providing needful change to bugzill

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Mahitgar ०७:५८, ८ फेब्रुवारी २००९ (UTC) (Copyright image from Marathi Language wikipedia is being taken for using as matches with gramatically correct Sanskrit language wording and writing system.Image was posted by user user:कौस्तुभ on Marathi Language Wikipedia & commons as authorised logo for Marathi Language Wikipedia and the same is proposed tobe used on Sanskrit Language Wikipedia )

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समर्थन करोति Mahitgar ०९:२०, १ पौषमाघे २००९ (UTC)

Though I am not a great expert on Sanskrit, I do agree that second change to use "Sahay" instead of "upkar" makes sense. This is from my understanding of other indian languages , especially Hindi.

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Comunidades Of Goa ?

An user Gaunkars of Goa (talk · contribs · count) has been adding "new territories of India" like Comunidades Of Goa like this and Talk:Goa#Inclusion_of_other_territoties_of_Goa_.28India.29 Does they exist or just POV ? This guy says "More than two-third of the land of Goa (other than forest) belongs to the Communes and the rest belongs to the Government of Goa." Need expert help ! -- Tinu Cherian - 08:57, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, he asked the same question on Talk:India but no one responded! Calling all Goans! --KnowledgeHegemony ^talk 06:53, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Dear Friends,

Your reactions are obvious and natural, but the fact remains. It is just that the facts were hidden from the public purview. What we like to point out is that the geographical area of the state of Goa is wrongly mentioned. The territory of Goa comprises of Goa State territory, the forests and The Comunidades. The State of Goa has trespassed the territory of Comunidades illegally to a large extent. Comunidades (self governing communes) existed much before the formation of states and the constitution. You can check the facts. It will be criminal not to mention of Comunidades on wikipedia. Kindly allow us to publish a separate article on 'The Comunidades of Goa'. With our comprehensive literature and references the ignorant can gain more insight on the Comunidades. If you have any questions please talk to us, we shall help. --Gaunkars of Goa (talk) 08:44, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Show a reliable reference which states that these comunidades are not part of the state. Unless you can do that, what you are trying is simply POV-pushing.--GDibyendu (talk) 15:53, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Following reliable references have already been submitted on the discussion page of 'India'.For more information; http://www.geocities.com/newagegoa/Chapter8.html

1. Foral of Afonso Mexia (the Magna Carta), dated 16/09/1526

2. Government Official Gazette, dated 15/05/1958

3. Preamble of the Diploma Legislativo No.2070, dated 15/04/1961

4. Gomes, Olivinho J.F. 1996. Village Goa. New Delhi: S. Chand & Co. Ltd. pp. 325-358.

5. Pereira,R.Gomes, 1981, Goa, Volume II : Gaunkari: The Old Village Associations, Goa, Panaji

6. Souza de, Carmo. 2000. “ The village communities. A historical and legal perspective”, in: Borges, Charles J. Goa and Portugal. History and development. New Delhi: Concept Publishing Co. pp. 111-124.

7. Adv. Andre A Pereira, 2007 “The Gaunkaries Of Goa” – A brief Legal synopsis of the Comunidades of Goa.

8. Kamat, Pratima. 2000. “Peasantry and the Colonial State”, in: Borges, Charles J. Goa and Portugal. History and development. New Delhi: Concept Publishing Co. pp. 133-158.

9. Menezes de, António. 1978. Goa. Historical Notes. Panaji: Casa J.D. Fernandes.

10. Paul Axelrod and Michelle A. Fuerch © 1998 The American History for Ethnohistory “Portuguese Orientalism and the Making of the Village Communities of Goa”.

The first three references relate to very important Government declarations which clearly states the legal jurisdictions of Goa and the Comunidades. The State of Goa trespassed into Comunidades illegally violating even the laws of 'The Constitution of India'. For your kind information the State of Goa is in a real soup for it has to first establish legality for itself for which it is battling out in the court. You may check the facts. More references are available at disposal.

Now kindly ask State of Goa to provide references that prove Comunidades form part of the state. Till then kindly mark information concerning Goa's territory as questionable.--Gaunkars of Goa (talk) 13:41, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Caste articles

Well, I wish to raise the issue about cleaning caste articles here. I've found some unpleasant interference by caste-welfare organisations in Wikipedia related articles. These individuals, seem to promote a one-sided view of their community and seem to boil at everything which they don't like to see here.

Especially, consider the example of this particular individual. He has been fairly polite but his claims of "protecting" this article for the Nadar sangham (a caste-welfare organisation) and declarations like the one below seem disturbing.

"You are not dealing with a single person here. You are dealing with a caste." ([1])

"My job is just to protect. I am actually a memeber of the nadar sagham(association) and come from a prominent nadar family."([2])

I doubt whether edits made by such individuals would be neutral. This is just one example. There are many similar people lurking around. I just feel it would be great if a few of our admins monitor these articles. After all, it would not look good if Wikipedia deteriorates to the level of becoming a propaganda-piece for some caste or the other or a battleground like some of the online forums. Thanks.-The Enforcer_{Office of the secret service} 14:03, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

User:Bake1987 is a die-hard Nadar POV pusher. I have had my share of altercation with him in Upper cloth revolt article. I wouldnt mind recommending blocking such single purpose propaganda accounts. --Docku: What's up? 17:41, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Murga Punishment

Came across this surprising article titled - Murga Punishment!! Prevalent in schools in India and Pakistan, and something both children and adults of these two nations can relate with, and find common ground in! After all, we have more things in common than not! --Ekabhishek (talk) 06:52, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Why the change I made was not reflected properly?

I made the following changes on the page of Narendra Modi but it spoiled the real output shown on the content page. Any ways, I undid my changes, and hence, the content page is as it was previously. But I should appreciate a help from somebody who knows why the following changes spoiled the infobox on the content page. I wanted to add the information that he is the 14th Chief Minister of Gujarat and his term started on October 7, 2001. for that I visited help page and made changes properly, but it resulted in chaos. So, I undid the changes.

Thanks in advance

{{Infobox Indian politician |name = Narendra Modi |image = Narendramodi.jpg |order = 14th |office = Chief Minister of Gujarat |term_start = October 7, [[2001] |term_end = |birth_date = 17 September 1950 |birth_place = Vadnagar, Mehsana district, Gujarat, India |residence = Gandhinagar, Gujarat |death_date = |death_place = |constituency = Maninagar |salary = |term = |order = Chief Minister of Gujarat |predecessor = Keshubhai Patel |successor = Incumbent |party = Bharatiya Janata Party |spouse = none |children = none |religion = Hindu |email = cm@gujaratindia.com |footnotes = |date= 08 March || year = 2009 | |source = http://www.gujaratassembly.gov.in/chiefminister.htm Government of Gujarat }} Dineshjk (talk) 10:12, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Do not link the dates, better to write in the format 1 January 2001. The error was because of [[ ]] mismatch.--GDibyendu (talk) 18:19, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Vempatapu Satyanarayana

An article on Indian Communist revolutionary Vempatapu Satyanarayana started recently. I went in and categorised, wikified, removed POV terms like "martyred" and "comrade", put in the IndCom template, etc. However the article still needs some expert checking, and all the sources are from the CPI(ML) website. Anyone well-versed in Indian Communism who wants to help integrate this bio? MatthewVanitas (talk) 16:08, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Contact User:Soman. HTH.--GDibyendu (talk) 18:21, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

What happened to this Hindi soap opera? Mrigrishna

There is a soap opera called "Mrigrishna" that was supposed to air in 2003: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2115936.stm

What happened to it? Why not make an article about it? WhisperToMe (talk) 18:47, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Velankani SEZ

I plucked this out of the speedy queue so that you guys can have a look at it; what do you think? - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:15, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

User:Adil your

Adding nonsense from nonsense sources and Pakistan govt websites on war history, etc. YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 03:08, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

This cannot possibly be a RS. YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 03:23, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

I looked it over, it's not. Hell, atleast he could use the Daw or Daily times. However, for wars between India and Pakistan, seeing how POV they can get, we should use academic sources only, possibly from a neutral country. Even if they aren't from a neutral country, there are plenty of academic sources within India and Pakistan for war history. They might be POV a bit, but they're for the most part otherwise reliable. Deavenger (talk) 19:15, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Women in India

This article is in need of some serious attention. Lot of weasel lines, opinions represented as facts, etc., For ex: Take a look at this non-sense that was removed.Thanks --Nvineeth (talk) 08:42, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Bye guys!

In response to the below (moved here from my talk page, which I intend to delete)

Why are you leaving? YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 02:45, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Wondering the same thing. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 08:25, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

+1. utcursch | talk 15:13, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

I have finally made up my mind to quit as an editor...Why??? -- Well coz I no longer wish to edit and be part of this project ... no no... .not quite...actually to move on...to embark on a new journey (Whoa!??!) . Now I'll rather enjoy watching how WP develops by being an outsider/ onlooker/ observer... I must state that I am satisfied with my stay here and would like to bid farewell now. (Maybe, coz I wanna to catch up wid real life). In fact I overstayed here by coming back in a new avatar KnowledgeHegemonyPart2 (talk · contribs · count) after the initial KnowledgeHegemony (talk · contribs · count). My experience here was fantastic and I am gonna miss everyone here! I'll really miss the friendly interactions and bon homie I encountered here. Best WishesNot that I won't visit Wikipedia again, will definitely visit it for reference work! Adiós! --KnowledgeHegemony ^talk 16:59, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

That is unfortunate for India-related topics in wikipedia. Wish you all the best in real life. --Docku: What's up? 17:26, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

I could very well understand your concerns and wish you all the best in the life. The departure of some of our foremost contributors is sure going to have a impact on WP:IN. Well, I guess many of our biggest contributors have left. And of those who remain, most are inactive or on breaks. I find it extremely difficult when the necessity of contacting an India-related admin arises. However, I fully understand the concerns of people who have left. After all, there is life outside Wikipedia too. And contributing here is enjoyable as long as it does not harm our personal lives. If contributing here does have a negative impact on our day-to-day activities and responsibilities, then it is certainly time for a rethink. It is really been great working with you KnowledgeHedgemony. Keep in touch.-The Enforcer_{Office of the secret service} 06:39, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Wish you all the best buddy. It leaves me a sad feeling when a good editor leaves the WP project especially from India. I hope the more and more people join us to fill up the voidness created by your departures... -- Tinu Cherian - 16:38, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Hey, do consider making minor edits here and there. One never has to stop editing completely to catch up with real life. My two paise. :-) -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 18:35, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

This is my first edit in more than a month now, just to say - you were awesome buddy! Yes, real life is very important but we can spare some time from it to hang around with our fellow good editors. It would also be nice to help maintain the articles on which we work hard. Don't throw them on the mercy of others. Your absence would be felt a lot, just like Nichalp & Dwaipayanc. Best luck for your endeavors in RL. --GPPande 19:02, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

As you transcend Knowledge, best of luck for your onward journey. May you return as wisdom - A new avtar - which shall always be anticipated! To make a few more sand castles on the beach! --Ekabhishek (talk) 12:35, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

India-related articles needing geographical coordinates

Based on a search of Wikipedia's articles, I've found some India-related articles that I believe are about places, and could usefully have geographical coordinates added.

The articles in question are listed in Category:India articles missing geocoordinate data. At the time of writing, some examples included:

1. Ahirauli Baghel
2. Allen Forest Zoo
3. Arwal district
4. Azizpur
5. B. B. D. Bagh
6. Bakthavatsala Perumal Temple
7. Bharatiya Girvana Prouda Vidya Vardhini Shala
8. Maheshpur, India
9. Valayapatti

...and there are many more, as well. At the time of posting this notice, there were 7,710 articles in this category needing geographical coordinates.

Why add coordinates?

By adding coordinates, a Wikipedia reader can easily view the location on a street map, nautical chart, topographic map, by satellite photo, realtime weather map, and in many other ways. Coordinate data makes an article eventually appear in various services such as Google Maps' Wikipedia overlay, Google Earth, and Wikipedia's own internal map service. Coordinate data also helps readers looking for geographically-based data, such as locations near a reference point, or related information.

How can I do it?

The articles are all marked with {{coord missing}} tags, which need to be replaced with {{coord}} tags that contain the location's latitude/longitude coordinates; or you might be able to add coordinates to an existing infobox. You can find out how to do this at the Wikipedia:Geocoding how-to for WikiProject members. Please let me know if this is useful, or if you have any questions! -- Spencer^{T♦Nominate!} 21:24, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

User:Yousaf465 a rollbacker???

User:Yousaf465 has been given rollback rights. Now is this a joke? Yousaf465 has been a blocked a few times, the last one coming barely a few days ago. -The Enforcer_{Office of the secret service} 07:20, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

not a big deal. can be taken back if not used appropriately... --Docku: What's up? 12:26, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject India - Cleanup listing

This is a huge page. Even with very good internet service it takes for ever to load. Is there any way it can be split by catagory? Sumanch (talk) 07:21, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Peer Review for List of districts of Kerala

Hi, I believe this list has now a potential to be an FL soon. Need comments/suggestions to understand what it may be lacking and what other improvements may be required. Please see here -- Tinu Cherian - 09:55, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Secularism in India

I suggest a close watch over the edits of User:Platonic Guardian i.e Mr Dominic Marbaniang to Secularism in India and POV forks History of Indian Secularism and Views on Indian Secularism. These articles are being hijacked by the self-promoter and material copy-pasted from his own religio-militant website[3][4].70.112.4.25 (talk)