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A fact from Michael P. Murphy appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 20 October 2007. A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2007/October.

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"Lord Love Him and His Family and Give Them The Guidance and Wisdom To Do What Is Right."

This article semes to show wikipedia as a memorial site... maybe someone should make it a bit more NPOV? JaMiE P 03:13, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Rklawton (talk) 20:15, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Phone

The possibilities are: cell phone, radio, and satellite phone. Based on what I've read, he was using a satellite phone. If someone would provide a reliable source indicating which, it would be useful. The matter isn't trivial since it was the nature of the technology that forced Murphy to move into the open in order to make his call for help. Rklawton (talk) 20:15, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It was, indeed, a cell phone. Marcus Luttrell devotes some time to Murphy's act of making the call in his book, Lone Survivor. The relevant text in the book is, "And he groped in his pocket for his mobile phone, the one we had dared not use because it would betray our position." - Ageekgal (talk) 14:21, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Silver Star?

The infobox suggests he was also awarded the Silver Star, but the text of the article has no mention of it. Anyone know the circumstances that got him the Silver Star? Ydorb (talk) 22:40, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008

Article reassessed and graded as start class. --dashiellx (talk) 18:44, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Caption for image [[Image:Parents of Michael Murphy with monument.jpg|photograph]]

Hi, the father of this person (assuming good faith) has posted at WP:EAR regarding this matter. Please see Wikipedia:Editor_assistance/Requests#re: my son, Navy SEAL Lt. Michael P. Murphy, User talk:24.185.231.182, User talk:Dual Freq#Image of parents of Michael P. Murphy and this U.S.A. gov release before reverting caption to the incorrect USN version. Cheers, Nk.sheridan Talk 23:52, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Inconsistency in number of enemies

The text (section Biography, paragraph 5) names 80 to 200 enemies that attacked the 4-person group. The Medal of Honor citation names 30 to 40 enemies. I would assume that the US navy gets their facts right, especially for something as important as a Medal of Honor citation, but I find it hard to believe that the author of the book that is cited for the 80-200 number didn't do good research. Does anyone know a definitive answer to this? Fransw (talk) 08:16, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

primary source

The whole Medal of Honor citation section should be removed from the article, as it's primary source text, reproduced in its whole, without analysis. Maybe moved to wikibooks , a project dedicated to sources ?

The informations present in this primary source can be presented in the article, with a neutral ton. What i try to explain is that - copy/paste a whole text, and that's it - method, is not a good way of presenting informations according to Wikipedia guidelines.--Lilyu (talk) 01:36, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It is sufficiently titled as the official Medal of Honor citation as to avoid any confusion. I don't see what your problem is with it. SJSA 02:49, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's a primary source in its totality, that's not in Wikipedia scope. We should rather present the informations in this text, rather than copy-pasting. --Lilyu (talk) 19:06, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do you not understand that this an official Medal of Honor citation? Please review some of the other articles on Medal of Honor recipients, the official Medal of Honor citation must be included. SJSA 11:15, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mistake with rank

Sidebar shows Captain's bars, but identifies him (and insignia of rank) as "Lieutenant" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.119.118.94 (talk) 14:33, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In the Navy, those are lieutenant's bars. See Template:US officer ranks. — jwillbur 17:28, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Honors and tributes

I am moving the below entry here and seeing what the opinion is. To me, it smacks of a commercial nature, and is merely a link to this company site for fitness workouts. The "honor" is somewhat dubious, and is not in the same league as the lieutenant's other honors. Is having a fitness workout named after you a reputable honor? Here is what was on the site, along with the reference. (Both were posted anonymously too).

August 18, 2005: CrossFit recognized Murphy by naming one of their hero workouts, "Murph," in his honor.^[1]

"Explain the Hero Workouts". CrossFit. August 18, 2005. Retrieved 2009-03-18.

What do you think? - K72ndst (talk) 15:41, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Although I am sure that it was done with the best of intentions there are better honors to highlight in the article than this one. --Kumioko (talk) 18:57, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As Michael's father, I notice that one of my son's awards is not represented and for the purposes of accuracy of Michael's biography I thought I would mention that Michael was also awarded the GWOT Global War on terrorism service medal. Since I'm not schooled in editing these pages, I just thought I'd bring it to your attention and have one of you who are, make the correction in his bio and also on the chest ribbon plate. 207.29.190.95 (talk) 17:07, 14 July 2009 (UTC) Daniel J. Murphy[reply]

Thank you I will work on getting that on his biography. I need to find a reference that reflects it but in the mean time I will add a note that states that he also received that. If you know of a reference that reflects it or if you notice anything else out of place or missing please let me know or leave a message on this page and I will take care of it.--Kumioko (talk) 18:26, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I just wanted to let you know that I fixed the missing medal you mentioned but I messed up the alignment of the table a little. I had to request some assistance from a couple of my fellow editors but I should have that fixed in the next couple hours. --Kumioko (talk) 19:33, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Its fixed now. --Kumioko (talk) 21:07, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I also believe that he may rate the Global War on Terrorism Expeditionary Medal but I'm not 100% sure. --Kumioko (talk) 21:12, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Expeditionary medal

The first footnote states that LT Murphy is deserving of the GWOT service medal. This is incorrect. He is entitled to the expeditionary medal, having served in the war on terror overseas.

^ http://www.crossfit.com/cf-info/faq.html#WOD1

[1] ttp://www.crossfit.com/cf-info/faq.html#WOD1

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 ::::Its fixed now. --[[User:Kumioko|Kumioko]] ([[User talk:Kumioko|talk]]) 21:07, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
 :::::I also believe that he may rate the [[Global War on Terrorism Expeditionary Medal]] but I'm not 100% sure. --[[User:Kumioko|Kumioko]] ([[User talk:Kumioko|talk]]) 21:12, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
+== Expeditionary medal ==
+The first footnote states that LT Murphy is deserving of the GWOT service medal.  This is incorrect.  He is entitled to the expeditionary medal, having served in the war on terror overseas.