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*Is ''The Magic Flute'' not Mozart's ''last'' opera; not 'one of his last'? [[Special:Contributions/79.71.113.135|79.71.113.135]] ([[User talk:79.71.113.135|talk]]) 11:18, 30 September 2009 (UTC) |
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== Errors in [[Template:POTD protected/{{#time:Y-m-d}}|today's]] or [[Template:POTD protected/{{#time:Y-m-d|+1day}}|tomorrow's]] ''featured picture'' == |
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Template:ITN-Update Surely we report people by their nationality, not their province. There is no specific mention in her artice sugesting that she was such a strong supporter of Catalan independence that it is inappropriate to call Alicia de Larrocha "Spanish". Kevin McE (talk) 16:55, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
- "Award winning" is on WP:PEACOCK. I put it there myself some time ago. This is a way of "you might not have heard of her, but she deserves to be on the main page, so there." Give us a wikilink to the article on the relevant award. jnestorius(talk) 21:30, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
- Regardless of her support to Catalonias independence, at the momment, catalan nationality does not exist and she should had been called "Spanish". I don't see that in bios of American people it's said "Ohaian" or "New Mexican" instead of "American". Also I have never seen "American-New Mexican" or "American-Alaskian". As Kevin McE said, Wikipedia reports people by their nationality, not their province. De Larrocha should have been reported as "Spanish pianist" in the main page. Thank you --Karljoos (talk) 22:14, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
- Agreed. This item is PoV pushing on both the above counts. Modest Genius talk 22:19, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
- So, as the editor who posted this ITN item, this would make me a PoV-pusher, would it? Please be careful with these words you throw around ... Anyhow, I have trimmed the item per the comments here and would welcome any further constructive comments on how to improve the blurb. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 23:11, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
- Agreed. This item is PoV pushing on both the above counts. Modest Genius talk 22:19, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
- Indeed. Larrocha's should be quoted by her nationality as it is customary. Hence, to provide the usual international context, she should be described as the Spanish she was, rather than the Spanish region (Catalonia) she was born in. The news section is not an autobiography, so whatever political views she could have had do not overrule her nationalityMOUNTOLIVE fedeli alla linea 23:09, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
- Is there a reason why the Catalonian description was not replaced by her nationality when it was removed? When there has been an accusation of POV-pushing (not one I would have levelled), it does little to dismiss it if the apparently avoided description remains absent. Kevin McE (talk) 07:37, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
- I'm taking a step back from this now, although any admin is welcome to make changes to improve it. However if there are any more concerns raised about this item, I will probably just remove it completely. Cheers — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:31, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
- I think it was a perfectly legitimate question: was there a reason why all reference to nationality was removed, rather than, as requested by 3 editors here, replacement with the uncontested fact that she was Spanish. If it was an oversight, then a simple admission of such and the requisite change to the blurb will remove any doubt about intentions; if you cannot make that admission, then it is not a surprise if the neutrality of your edit is questioned. Kevin McE (talk) 09:46, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
- I'm taking a step back from this now, although any admin is welcome to make changes to improve it. However if there are any more concerns raised about this item, I will probably just remove it completely. Cheers — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:31, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
- Is there a reason why the Catalonian description was not replaced by her nationality when it was removed? When there has been an accusation of POV-pushing (not one I would have levelled), it does little to dismiss it if the apparently avoided description remains absent. Kevin McE (talk) 07:37, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
- I'll clarify my comment: whoever wrote this blurb (and I haven't checked) obviously had the PoV that she was Catalonian rather than Spanish. This probably was not intentional. Nevertheless, it does serve to enhance a minority PoV. I never accused anyone of anything. Modest Genius talk 11:06, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
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- Is The Magic Flute not Mozart's last opera; not 'one of his last'? 79.71.113.135 (talk) 11:18, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
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