Talk:Dave Bautista

Angle Lock

Shouldn't on batistas page say that hew uses the Angle lock? I think so because he applied it to Jericho and Big Show. Gcm90 (talk)

Just because he uses it once does not mean that its should go in to the moves section. and please new sections go at the bottom.--Dcheagle (talk) 04:16, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Other Media

Batista rules During the recent china tour Batista was on a very big UK talk show and was called a wussy by a child on air for collecting lunch boxes: Source It may be an interesting bit to add to other media.

The same site also has a very good biography of Batista that may be worth adding as an external link: here —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skaterkee (talk • contribs) 14:35, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

current

there as been nothing added about 2008 like winning brand surpremity at wm24 or facing hbk over retirment to ric flair or even more recent almost winning a shot at the world title (smackdown not yet aired till friday) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.216.63.149 (talk) 21:34, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

None of those occurrences are notable to Batista's overall career. Per WP:PW, we don't add week-by-week results. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 21:36, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

yea but some have sence like winning brand surpemity at wm24 that has to be notable mean were 5 months in 2008 and he as nothing in there what about his chance at the us title or fude with hbk, mvp mainly the wm24 match he had desevrs mentioning its one of the few times they have these matchs KCDavis (talk) 14:36, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Add more to the 2008 year because this is down right stupid because Batista is the top dog on RAW and he has the least writing on his profile. Also change the 2003-2004 years into 2003 then 2004 seperate them ito indiviual years. —Preceding unsigned comment added by LukasVandelanotte (talk • contribs) 20:14, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Article name

Why is the article named Dave Batista when his real name is Dave Bautista? The title used to be Batista, now why is it Batista? Shouldn't it be changed back?Skilldog2 (talk) 20:38, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Per here. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 20:58, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Batista or Batista

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The result of the proposal was I hate bringing this up cause I know it's gonna result in a debate, but I gotta ask anyway. Should Batista's article be re-named to Dave Batista or should it remain as Dave Batista?

Per WP:UCN, it appears that it should be listed as Dave Batista (WWF spelling) rather then the "real" spelling of his name. There are many examples that support this argument. Tazz, Shawn Michaels, Ric Flair, The Undertaker, etc, etc. But then there are some wrestlers whose real names are listed as their real names (despite being widely known by their ring names). Such examples include Anthony Carelli, Ken Anderson & Paul Wight. --Endless Dan 18:06, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, to aid in the discussion, "Dave Batista" gets 132,000 Google hits and "Dave Batista" get 23,300. Also, on the cover of Batista Unleashed, it is spelled "Dave Batista". I support a rename. Nikki311 23:22, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Per Dan's and Nikki's comments, I too support a move.~SRX~ 23:53, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

I agree, and with four supports, I moved the page. King iMatthew 2008 00:09, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Very cool. Now, should this be a standard for every wrestler (with a few exceptions)? If so, what's the case for Oscar Gutierrez and the other wrestlers I mentioned above? --Endless Dan 21:50, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

The article should most definitely be moved to Rey Mysterio. If anybody objects, please speak. King iMatthew 2008 22:48, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

I think it's too close to his uncle's name (especially with an ongoing debate about moving that uncle to Rey Misterio. I think it should be moved to Rey Mysterio, Jr., as it's the name he became famous under and it clearly differentiates the articles much better than Rey Misterio vs. Rey Mysterio would. GaryColemanFan (talk) 23:27, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

As for the others, I have no problem with moving Carelli or Anderson. Paul Wight should stay where it is, though, as The Giant was a very well-known ring name for him (under which he won the WCW World Championship twice). GaryColemanFan (talk) 23:30, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

I definitely support Wight staying as is. He amongst "the few exceptions" I mentioned above. I think legal names should be kept for folks who have done notable things under different names - like Wight (Giant, Show, etc) or Morrison (Nitro, Spade, Morrison). Is there anyone else out there who could be possibly moved? --Endless Dan 12:12, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Glen Jacobs to Kane (wrestler)? Gavyn Sykes (talk) 13:18, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Glen Jacobs was also Dr. Isaac Yankem, DDS and the "Fake Diesel". — Gwalla | Talk 20:49, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

But he is best known as Kane. King iMatthew 2008 20:52, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm well aware of his other ring names. But he's been known as Kane for over ten years. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 22:25, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

So yes, or no? King iMatthew 2008 22:26, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

My vote would be no. He was well-known under other ring names, so I think using his real name is the best way to go. I also hate having page titles end with (wrestler), which would have to be the case because Kane is a disambiguation page for 45 uses of "Kane". On top of that, Stevie Ray of Harlem Heat also wrestled under the ring name Kane during part of his time in WCW. GaryColemanFan (talk) 22:43, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

A google search for Glen Jacobs gets 557,000 hits, while a google search for Kane gets 49,300,000 hits. King iMatthew 2008 22:49, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

But how many of those hits aren't for "our" Kane? -The Hybrid- 22:52, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

I didn't think of that, but for a google search of "Kane (wrestler), I get 756,000 hits. King iMatthew 2008 23:06, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

I support a move of Jacobs to Kane (wrestler), a move of Gutierrez to Rey Mysterio, Jr., a move of Carelli to Santino Marella. However, what about Anderson (should it be moved to "Ken Kennedy" or just "Mr. Kennedy"), and any consensus about Alvin Burke, Jr?~SRX~ 23:09, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Let's take this one step at a time. King iMatthew 2008 23:15, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

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Big Boot?

I've been watching Smackdown and he's been using the big boot also i saw it during his Survivor Series 2007 match with Edge & Taker should we list it under signature moves?

 Done Gavyn Sykes (talk) 20:33, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

The big boot isn't a notable move for batista i dont think, i've hardly seen him use it. $ChuckCoke$ —Preceding unsigned comment added by ChuckCoke (talk • contribs) 02:15, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Thats funny uve never seen him do the big boot HA.-WWE Fana

name discrepancy

half the article calls him batista and the rest calls him bautista. Make a decision which way it should be spelled because it brings down the quality of the article69.3.144.108 (talk) 19:43, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

His real name is Batista, thus his real name is used in non-wrestling and personal life sections. His ring name/character's name is Batista, so wrestling sections use that. It doesn't bring down the quality of the article, it helps make the article coincide with Wikipedia's rules. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 19:47, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

The Animal?

There is a link from The Animal to here, saying he is known as the Animal. However, nothing in the article suggests anything like that. Having not watched wrestling in forever, I've always assumed the Animal was George Steele. DandyDan2007 (talk) 01:54, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

batista 13 he was steeling cars and he almos killed 2 people there eyes were in back of there heads and then the cops finaly arested him —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.123.44.230 (talk) 01:28, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Yea can i see your reliable source!Adster95 (talk) 15:24, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

I added that link for disambiguation... he's been known as "the Animal" ever since he dropped the Deacon from his name, and his merchandise reflects this [1]. I suppose I should add George Steele as well, but I'm not sure if having multiple usages is per Wiki policy or if it should just redirect to the main Animal disamb page. Enigmatic2k3 (talk) 15:46, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

GILF

I heard somewhere that batista is a grandfather. Know thats hard to believe. Is this true or is it just a rumor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.60.77.248 (talk) 04:05, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Pictures

Can someone please get more recent pictures for these WWE Superstars, Diva's, and staff. Many don't even have a single photo. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.188.227.30 (talk) 22:09, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

he is a grandfather he admits it in his book 67.71.142.232 (talk) 10:54, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the proposal was

Resolved

Reason: He is best known as Batista and is almost always referred to as Batista not Dave Batista--Brothers of destruction (talk) 21:56, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

• Strong oppose per his book, and the quantifier. iMatthew (talk) 22:03, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose: Not because of the "(wrestler)" but because in OVW he went by Levitation and many call him Dave Batista on TV, or just Dave.--WillC 22:04, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose per quantifer and WillC. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 22:07, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose per all of the above opposers. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 00:34, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
• Strong Oppose He has a book published under this name and, there was a previous discussion about this and everyone agreed to move the article to it's current form. SAVIOR_SELF.777 03:54, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose and throw a snowball at it. Darrenhusted (talk) 08:14, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Endorse throwing a snowball at Dave Batista. iMatthew (talk) 10:18, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

 Not done - WP:SNOW. D.M.N. (talk) 11:53, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

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Dating Kelly Kelly

The story of Batista dating Kelly seems to be out of his own imagination. The article citing it he says he dated her a few months ago. On Kelly Kelly's own myspace she made a blog on Nov. 8 saying she was still dating Test. The dates dont match up. I'm not going to delete it but, if you do a bit of research the stories dont match. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Juniorlizard (talk • contribs) 18:38, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

He said it himself in a radio interview. There's also a video of them holding hands in New York from August. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Clmil01 (talk • contribs) 08:21, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Injury

http://www.prowrestling.net/artman/publish/WWE/article1003985.shtml

Sideline

On Dec. 23, it was said that Batista would be sidelined for 6-8 months due to a torn hamstring by the punt to the head by Randy Orton.

Here it is. http://www.wrestlingnewsworld.com/wwe-news/batista-injured-the-reason-he-missed-raw.php

OVW Disciples of Synn

This is probably the wrong place to ask, but was there even a wrestler known as Synn at all? Also, I have another unresolved question in the Talk page of UWF Live. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.68.195.149 (talk) 15:39, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Star Trek Voyager appperance

He's appeared on an episode of Star Trek Voyager, fighting Seven of Nine, I can't remember the episode number...--FusionOpz (talk) 10:12, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

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That was actually Rocky Melvin.

When will he be back?

He will probably be back before wrestlemainia 25. Or earlier,because the Animal is a big superstar that everybody knows and loves, and how could they have a wrestlemainia without the animal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.230.91.125 (talk) 03:50, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Year of birth

I remember seeing in a Power Slam magazine that his birthday was closer to 1960 than 1970, and that 1969 was just WWE trying to make him look younger than he really is. Anyone have clear proof one way or the other? Thanks.

iMDb lists him as born in 1966 [2] I'd rather trust a reliable site such as iMDb than his own site which can exaggerate stats due to WWE marketing him at such. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dinot1985 (talk • contribs) 21:33, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Cena?

Should it be mentioned that he is good friends with John Cena? Ive Cena Nuff (talk) 00:20, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Is there a source? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 21:23, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

2008

match with umaga- says it happened at wrestlmania XXV - happened at wrestlemania XXIV —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.66.31.206 (talk) 02:12, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

It doesn't really matter, because it was already mentioned in the right article (which was WrestleMania XXIV). Save Us.Y2J 16:12, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

2009

batista was to take vince mcmhon place at backlash to defend triple h's wwe title —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.226.96.225 (talk) 15:00, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Rolling Fireman's Carry

It should be on the list of Signature Moves that in 2002 when he was just starting in the WWE he did a Rolling Fireman's Carry. Here are 2 Matches where he does it from 2002 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snPyVpN3LQI&feature=channel_page http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHnBBNFgbJY&feature=channel_page Just putting it to your Attention. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fliptrik360 (talk • contribs) 21:50, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Contract

His contract expires next spring.--76.107.68.244 (talk) 04:18, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

What is your source? Not that it matters since it's not notable. TJ Spyke 01:32, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Batista's nationality is incorrect.

He is exactly half Filipino and half Greek, not pure Filipino. Who on Earth is in charge of this article? They really messed up. Please get your facts straight. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.198.69.9 (talk) 18:54, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Edit

I meant ethnicity, not nationality. Batista's "Greek half" has been entirely forgotten! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.198.69.9 (talk) 19:06, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

WWE Champ & Injury

3 Weeks before Extreme Rules Batista injured his biceps during a match with Cody Rhodes. Batista captured his 5th World Title at Extreme Rules. The Next night he got kayfabe injured by Legacy forcing him to vacate to vacate the title. Randy Orton won the title the next week.

Addition to 2009

Batista was general manager on Raw 6/29/09 and the storyline stipulation should be addressed. --Cooly123 (talk) 16:08, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Stupid Idiots

Man, why are wikipedia articles being developed by morons? The last section in his career is totally incorrect. Batista never had the shoulder injury from the staged arm-twisting. His arm was already in need of a surgery, and to cover up for it, they made him "win" the title, then have Orton "break" his arm. He was scheduled to have the surgery much earlier than the event.

Idiots. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.12.218.208 (talk) 20:08, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

After creating an account, I cannot even edit the article. Could someone fix the error already? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Terminegen (talk • contribs) 20:11, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

NEW WWE CHAMPION 2010-

On 2/22/10 at WWE's live pay-per-view event (The Elimination Chamber) it appeared that Batista won his very first WWE Championship, by beating John Cena. WWE's chairman Vince gave batista a shot at the WWE championship after WWE Elimination Chamber first match. He Gained his victory and became the neww WWE champion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.172.189.75 (talk) 23:17, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

==New WWE Champion 2010- Present

On 2/22/10 at WWE's live pay-per-view event (The Elimination Chamber) it appeared that Batista won his very first WWE Championship, by beating John Cena. WWE's chairman Vince gave batista a shot at the WWE championship after WWE Elimination Chamber first match. He Gained his victory and became the neww WWE champion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.172.189.75 (talk) 23:20, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Batista's Biceps injury

Batista's muscles were never accidentally damaged during the staged act where his arm is twisted. He already had the injury beforehand, and this was to cover up for the fact that he was going to undergo surgery either that night or Tuesday. This is also why he was allowed to win the title the night before. Somebody fix it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Terminegen (talk • contribs) 22:05, 7 July 2009

 Not done: Welcome and thanks for wanting to improve this article. When you use the {{editsemiprotected}} template, you need to specify your request in a 'please change X to Y' level of detail. Also, for a factual change like this, you will need to provide a cite to some verifiable reliable source. Finally, you should also read our policy on civility. Calling your fellow editors idiots is counterproductive and unacceptable. Celestra (talk) 03:04, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Forget it. If inaccuracy is what wikipedia aims for, then go ahead and leave it unchanged. But just for the sake of properly informing people, look at this: http://www.wrestlingnewsarena.com/2009/06/breaking-news-top-raw-superstar-injured/ Put that in the cite Here's another one: http://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/wi/2009/0612/418203/batista/index.shtml

I have fixed it the best I can, leaving the wording ambiguous about when he was injured. Unfortunately, "dirt sheet" sites aren't very verifiable in situations like these, leaving us at the mercy of WWE's seemingly revisionist history. Bmg916^Speak 15:41, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Mind you, WWE really likes covering up the real situations and events that happen to their wrestlers. It should be noted that in cases like WWE and professional wrestling companies, "dirt sheet" sites are the most reliable, since they clearly find out the truth for everything so far. Plus, those two articles clearly show that their information was not only correct, but they predicted correctly: Batista would give up the title on that Raw. Regarding Batista and his injury: He had it prior to his Extreme Rules match, but chose to continue the match to work up to that "brutal attack" the next night. This was a cover-up for the fact that he was scheduled to have his biceps surgery on Tuesday. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Terminegen (talk • contribs) 17:17, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

{{editsemiprotected}} I also want to add that the new edit, although improved from before, makes little sense. It's stated that he scripted to vacate his title that night. This implies that he already had his injury before Monday night (which is true) and that WWE was also already aware of it (also true), hence the script in the first place. Then, the citation refers to WWE's website, which totally contradicts the above statements. Why? Because the WWE citation implies the opposite: Legacy being the cause of his injury.

Might wanna fix that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Terminegen (talk • contribs) 17:23, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

 Not done: Read last message. If some editor chooses to do some editing based on your vague comments, that's between you and him. To use the editsemiprotected template, you need to be specific and provide sources. 198.95.226.224 (talk) 19:33, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Hey, moron, why don't you read the entire edit requesting subject to see the sources I provided? And it doesn't hurt for wikipedia articles to be just a little bit accurate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Terminegen (talk • contribs) 16:05, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Even if the dirtsheet sites are 100% correct (such as in this case) they still can not be used a sources as they fail WP:RS and WP:V. Policy is policy, sorry. However, should you be able to find an article from SLAM, WrestleView or PWTorch or WON that gives that information, it can be added as those four sites DO pass policy as reliable sources. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 01:29, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

== spearbuster ==Batista interrupted Rey Mysterio Against Undertaker On Christmas Smackdow

he sometimes uses a move called spearbuster against a jumping opponent. its a spear into a spinebuster ps. im sorry for my bad english but im from germany --Kingmichi13 (talk) 18:27, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

His Appearance in Tekken(2009 Movie)

Shouldn't you guys add about his appearance on Tekken the Movie? Proof:http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0411951/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sithlordjedi (talk • contribs) 20:45, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Fix

Batista isn't retiring hes going to smackdown in the 2009 section it says he is retiring. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.116.57.122 (talk) 01:17, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Heel Turn

At Bragging Rights, Batista was unsuccessful in capturing the Word Title and blamed Rey Mysterio and attacking him turning heel for the first time in 4 years. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.26.129.2 (talk) 02:38, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

It's too early to say he's turned heel. After all, Mysterio cost him the title. He may have just temporarily lost his temper. If Mysterio had done that to me, I'd probably break him in half, too. Anyway, let's at least see what happens on Smackdown this week first. Nightmareishere (talk) 02:38, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

I agree, it's too early to confirm that he'll be a heel character. It might just a feud that they need to plot against. besides if it wasn't for rey, he should've been the world champ.Hydranoid15 (talk) 05:07, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Just to play devil's advocate, WWE is marketing him in promotions since Bragging Rights (on RAW and ECW) as a possible heel - albeit with a reason for his motives, but considering the crowd reaction, I'm inclined to be confused as to whether or not he is heel. I heard a LOT of cheers when he clotheslined Rey Mysterio. ⒺⓋⒾⓁⒼⓄⒽⒶⓃ② ^talk 20:32, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, it's confusing. Many would say Rey Mysterio got what he deserved at Bragging Rights, but the way Batista attacked Matt Hardy from behind at Smackdown! could be further indication of a heel turn. Then again, he may wind up a tweener. It might still be too early to definitively say what he is going to be.98.220.41.194 (talk) 00:25, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

for your arm from randy orton

Did Randy Orton make your arm swolen on perpis —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.64.179.132 (talk) 16:20, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

The New WWE Champion 2010- Present

Actually, this is Batista's second time winning the WWE championship. The first time, he beat randy orton in 2009 at extrme rules in a cage match. Then 2010, Mr. Machmon gave him a shot at it because he helped him wear down bret hart. so, people please get your facts right. He is a straight six times world champion: four times heavyweight and two time WWe champion.

The Altered Beast

Is this an "official" nickname for Batista?