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:::No, the headline is an editor's misleading interpretation, and not a quote of Netanyahu's words. A more complete quote, giving the context, would be, ''"We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq [have] swung American public opinion in our favor."'' Very different than the headline. [[User:Hertz1888|Hertz1888]] ([[User talk:Hertz1888|talk]]) 12:14, 9 March 2010 (UTC) |
:::No, the headline is an editor's misleading interpretation, and not a quote of Netanyahu's words. A more complete quote, giving the context, would be, ''"We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq [have] swung American public opinion in our favor."'' Very different than the headline. [[User:Hertz1888|Hertz1888]] ([[User talk:Hertz1888|talk]]) 12:14, 9 March 2010 (UTC) |
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:::P.S. Please sign your posts. [[User:Hertz1888|Hertz1888]] ([[User talk:Hertz1888|talk]]) 12:16, 9 March 2010 (UTC) |
:::P.S. Please sign your posts. [[User:Hertz1888|Hertz1888]] ([[User talk:Hertz1888|talk]]) 12:16, 9 March 2010 (UTC) |
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::::I am not sure why you think the Haaretz article title is misleading but I agree that if this info is put in the article it is better to quote Netanyahu's words. |
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Jamie[[Special:Contributions/24.108.77.192|24.108.77.192]] ([[User talk:24.108.77.192|talk]]) 13:16, 9 March 2010 (UTC) |
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== Minister of Justice in infobox == |
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Can't we do better than this? There's a huge wealth of information on Netanyahu, but almost nothing on this page. He was PM of Israel during the Internet age, for Gods sake! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ostritch (talk • contribs) 12:08, 26 September 2003 (UTC)
- Ha, you are complaining the article is weak. Why don't you jump on the pan and fix what you think is missing. Note, I am just responding because you are a little too vocal. Be a little more meek when seeking free assistance—Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.30.202.28 (talk) 00:31, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
- Can we put this in about a person still alive?:
- "Israel should have exploited the repression of the demonstrations in China, when world attention focused on that country, to carry out mass expulsions among the Arabs of the territories." Benyamin Netanyahu, then Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister, tells students at Bar Ilan University. Israeli journal Hotam, November 24, 1989.—Preceding unsigned comment added by PalestineRemembered (talk • contribs) 20:45, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
Translate from Hebrew version
As it is now, this article is little more than stub. The Hebrew version is excellent; if anyone is really fluent in Hebrew, please translate it and replace the English version.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Aniboy2000 (talk • contribs) 19:05, 22 October 2004 (UTC)
Convenient timing
What, nothing in here about the report on poverty and the treasury in the state of Israel? The one slated to be published today, one day after Netanyahu's resignation from the ministry? Not a single local pundit, analyst, or comedian has let this uncanny "coincidence" slide. It's context that can't be omitted. I think simply stating that Netanyahu suddenly, much-belatedly decided to resign "for ideological reasons" compromises this entry's NPOV.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.64.210.95 (talk) 11:45, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
Update: Well, the report is in, and Israel is apparently the lowest ranked in the Western world, by whatever statistical measures they're using. Pity I know absolutely nothing about the financial specifics, nor even about what is officially classified as "the Western world". At any rate, the local media are having a field day. I don't suppose anyone here knows any of the detailed facts? The circumstances surrounding Netanyahu's resignation are clearly pertinent to this mini-bio.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.64.210.95 (talk) 14:46, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
Yet, israel recieves between 10-15 million u.s. dollars a day.Can anyone tell us why the zionist ,not jewish, should take more revenue that any other country in the history of the U.S.A.? We,Americans, have not had an opportunity to deciede where our money goes.U.S.A. is also an occupied territoy of israel,it has a zionist majority.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.12.194.161 (talk) 15:42, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Teaser about his marriage
I like the teaser about his marriage, but where is the link to click to get the answer?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Fal atar (talk • contribs) 13:27, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
--There is none. It was speculations.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.39.201.190 (talk) 10:51, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
-- What teaser? Where is it?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.93.156.174 (talk) 03:33, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
From Mitt_Romney
After graduation from Harvard Business School, Romney went to work for The Boston Consulting Group, where he had been a summer intern in 1974. At BCG Romney worked with recent MIT graduate and future Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Gkklein (talk • contribs) 18:40, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Expansion
He was Prime Minister for three years, yet the article contains only a small paragraph about what he did during that time and solely concerning his relations with the Palestinians and the peace process. In fact most of the Prime Minister section concerns his election, not his tenure.Furthermore the article does not go into great detail about his policies towards the Palestinians and says nothing about any of his other policies during his tenure. That's why I have tagged this for expansion. Olockers—Preceding undated comment added 12:20, 31 March 2007 (UTC).
Would Israel's existence have prevented the Holocaust?
"[t]here are those who say that if the Holocaust had not occurred, the State of Israel would never have been established. But I say that if the State of Israel would have been established earlier, the Holocaust would not have occurred."
This comment by Bibi was removed. I feel that this is a very important quote in terms of what Bibi believes and his personal ideas. As a Jew, he said that the lack of a safe homeland directly lead to the deaths of countless members of his people. This, as the JP pointed out, is a rejoiner to what Obama said in Cairo. The Squicks (talk) 00:03, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- I don't necessarily have a problem with it being somewhere, but I am not sure where it belongs. I thought it clearly did not belong where it was. It was sitting in the middle of all this stuff about the peace process and I thought it represented a tangent, or a distraction, or something. I also thought the language calling it a "challenge" to President Obama was a little strong (even if the source did so), especially when on the subject that the section is really about, you find out a few sentences later that a spokesman for the President said the speech was a step in the right direction, or something along those lines. 6SJ7 (talk) 00:09, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- Now I see you put it back. It's a mistake. It's a distraction, in a subsection that already has enough going on just from the subject itself. It needs to go elsewhere, and the "challenge" thing needs to be either taken out or explained better. 6SJ7 (talk) 00:12, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- It is a challange. The source described it as such. I could see moving it somewhere else; where do you suggest? The Squicks (talk) 00:13, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- I see no reason to move it to another section. It is relevant to the "peace process" because it addresses one of the common Arab objections to Israel's existence. Hertz1888 (talk) 02:06, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- What objection are you talking about, exactly? 6SJ7 (talk) 18:35, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- I see no reason to move it to another section. It is relevant to the "peace process" because it addresses one of the common Arab objections to Israel's existence. Hertz1888 (talk) 02:06, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- this is in the section about his speech, which is where it belongs.untwirl(talk) 04:18, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- The source says "he corrected the impression Obama left with his Cairo address on June 4". He made the statement in opposition to Obama according to the source. So, I reverted 6SJ7's change. I also changed the wording from "challenge" to "response" since the former may seem too overly emotive language. The Squicks (talk) 23:08, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
where can we put this in?
I found this very interesting video of Netanyahu and Faoud Ajami debating in 1977. Ironically, both have now switched the positions from the ones in their videos. Netanyahu is now for a 2 state solution, Ajami is now pro-Israel. Also, it gets in how Netanyahu was once called Ben Nitay. Where can this go? I also think more info on his time as an economist could be useful as well.
Semi-protection
I think we should ask wiki for semi protection for the article. There have been quite a few occasions of vandalism here lately. What do you think?--Mikej007 (talk) 21:39, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
- probably a good idea, considering the massive amount of vandalism this article is likely vulnerable toTallicfan20 (talk) 03:13, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
bar-illan speech international reactions
why is everyone in the inte"ll reactions or most an arab state, what about the countries cause most of the reactions are quite negative and if there is no improvement i believe we should delete that article on account of bias. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.196.91.224 (talk) 21:08, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
his father foresaw 9/11 attacks in 1990s
Netanyahu: My father foresaw 9/11 attacks in 1990s http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=120347§ionid=351020202 http://www.aljazeera.com/news/print.php?newid=341660 - "Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has said that his father predicted the 9/11 attacks on New York's twin towers back in the '90s. The remark was made during the 100th birthday celebration of the premier's father, Benzion Netanyahu, Haaretz reported." - Also note that Benjamin Netanyahu has said that "9/11 terror attacks good for Israel" http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/975574.html cheers, Jamie —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.108.77.192 (talk) 11:33, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
- While we're at it, let's also note that the "good for Israel" words in quotes above, are not his words. That's not what he said. Read the article. Hertz1888 (talk) 11:45, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
- "Report: Netanyahu says 9/11 terror attacks good for Israel By Haaretz Service and Reuters"
- I took it directly from the title of the article from haaretz.com. Haaretz isn't usually considered to be a tabloid so I think that this quote is ok to use. This quote directly attributed to Netanyahu in the article could be used as well:
- "We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq" cheers, Jamie —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.108.77.192 (talk) 11:57, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
- No, the headline is an editor's misleading interpretation, and not a quote of Netanyahu's words. A more complete quote, giving the context, would be, "We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq [have] swung American public opinion in our favor." Very different than the headline. Hertz1888 (talk) 12:14, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
- P.S. Please sign your posts. Hertz1888 (talk) 12:16, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
- I am not sure why you think the Haaretz article title is misleading but I agree that if this info is put in the article it is better to quote Netanyahu's words.
cheers, Jamie24.108.77.192 (talk) 13:16, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
Minister of Justice in infobox
The infobox currently states that he was Minister of Justice in 1996. Although this is technically true (the prime minister is also the minister for any ministry without an appointed minister) is was only for a month (Yaakov Neeman was the minister until 10 August 1996;[1] Netanyahu was until 04 September 1996[2]) during a cabinet reshuffle.
Considering the stated above, is the ministry position notable enough for the infobox? I tend to believe not. Rami R 11:43, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
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