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I think we should enter a discussion to discuss the possibility that displaying images of Trey Parker (PBHP) may be offensive to those who follow "South Park". Furthermore, when mentioning Him (PBHP) the added PBHP (Please Buy His Products) should be added. If Wikipedia is to respect cultural sensitivities, it should respect all cultural sensitivities. |
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I think we should enter a discussion to discuss the possibility that displaying images of Trey Parker (PBHP) may be offensive to those who follow "South Park". Furthermore, when mentioning Him (PBHP) the added PBHP (Please Buy His Products) should be added. If Wikipedia is to respect cultural sensitivities, it should respect all cultural sensitivities.
Find and replace Trey Parker with Matt Stone, and you have Matt Stone's Wikipedia. Apparently they even play the same exact instruments in the band they're both in. And they're the same person.
It's not even a funny revert or whatever the lingo is. It's the Matt Damon/Ben Affleck effect, because even though they collaborate a lot for whatever reason - like, maybe, that's how they actually became successful in the first place, or maybe because they're buddies - they actually are two different people. I'm not going to pretend to know balls about either one of them or their history, personal lives, or career aspirations, but I'll be damned if I can't go WikiSurfing and not see two different people on these two different pages.
--Chubba (talk) 11:32, 19 January 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.236.150.198 (talk)
I don't know anybody, even among conservatives, that actually thinks this term is people who think the show has a primarily conservative. A "South Park Conservative" is basically someone who is more anti-liberal than pro-conservative (which certainly describes Trey Parker). There is a strong anti-liberal movement in this country right now, and South Park deserves come credit in inspiring some of that.
When asked "Who are the South Park conservatives", Brian Anderson, managing editor of City Journal magazine, the quarterly publication of the Manhattan Instititute, and the author of the book "South Park Conservatives: The Revolt Against Liberal Media Bias", replied:
"As I use the term loosely—the coinage “South Park Republican” is Andrew Sullivan’s, and had been written about by a web writer Stephen Stanton on Tech Central Station—it refers to an anti-liberal: someone who may not be traditionally conservative, especially concerning popular culture and censorship, but who looks at today’s Nancy Pelosi Left and is repulsed by it. In the book, I describe the rise of this anti-liberal, anti-PC attitude in a current of contemporary topical humor—South Park itself leading the way, Dennis Miller, the stand-ups Nick Di Paolo, Colin Quinn, and Julia Gorin, websites like Scrappleface, and so on. I found this attitude also characterized many of the college students I interviewed for SPC. Cranking Eminem on the I-pod while working on a GOP get-out-the vote effort, so to speak.
South Park is as funny as anything we’ve seen in popular culture. Conservatives take their lumps too on it, but there’s nothing new in that—topical comedy has regularly taken aim at conservatives and traditional values for decades. What’s weird and subversive about South Park is its mix of libertarianism and middle-American common sense. It has satirized hate-crime legislation, multiculturalism, abortion rights, radical environmentalism, anti-smoking campaigns, and scores of liberal celebrities. "
- Lets get this straight, South Park is libertarian. Both liberals and conservatives need to stop claiming the show as theirs. Libertarianism is best described as being economically right and socially left, though this is a bit misleading. Economically, libertarianism is about as right as you can get, which supports no redistribution of wealth and no government involvment in business, and other traditionally 'right' fiscal policies (they are typically hush hush on their economic views, but the coffee episode in Season 4 confirms this). I would describle libertarians as more socially moderate then socially left, while they are typically pro-abortion, supportive of gay marriage, against aggresive foreign policies, and against government and religious interference in science, etc. but they are also against gun control, enviornmentalism, political correctness, immigration reform, anti-smoking laws, hate-crime legisltaion, affrimative action, etc. (don't have time to list them all) Almost every south park episode supports the argument that they are libertarian through and through, with the possible exception of the Wal-Mart episode. Even then, note that they said that if we want our small businesses to grow, we simply need to shop somewhere else. No evidence that they supported government interference in business. This, is still a very libertarian view on a solution to a monopoly problem. --Jtd00123 (talk) 04:39, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Actually, the above description of libertarianism is absolutely wrong. That was a description of the values of the American Libertarianism party, and as usual, American politics has it wrong. Libertarianism is the opposite of authoritarianism--it can be economically left OR right, just as authoritarianism can be. It is PURELY a social classification, and has no absolute economic properties.Fofe510 (talk) 19:12, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
- Perhaps I should have been more specific. I am very aware what a libertarian is and that there are that libertarian doesn't neccessarily mean that you conform to the views of the American libertarian party. But, in the context of the show South Park, using the Nolan chart as a guide, I was clearly talking about the general tendencies of people that call themselves libertarians here in the US , the US libertarian pary, and their relation to the creators of this show. In general, libertarians in the US tend to be economically right and socially moderate(or left, depending on how you interpret it), which fit the views of Matt and Trey. (almost all of the issues I covered above are found in some way in South Park) There are of course exceptions. And American politics having libertarianism all wrong is clearly subjective. Many supporters of the US libertarian party take stances on issues that they feel will maximize individual liberty, and isn't that what libertarianism is all about? --Jtd00123 (talk) 06:43, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
- I'm what conservatives and libertarians would describe as a "wacky, socialistic" Democrat--and I often find my own lefty views reinforced or satirized in South Park. The show seems to provoke a positive emotional response in Americans of many political stripes. Some conservatives and free-market Libertarians like to claim the show's success as their own. It might be more accurate to say that Trey Parker and Matt Stone enjoy persecuting the comfortable and slaughtering sacred cows--whether those cows are colored red or blue. Rangergordon (talk) 10:38, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
Trey's High School
Although it was a decade earlier, I grew up in the same area of Colorado, and went to the same schools that Trey did. When I read this line today about him going to school in Evergreen AND Fairplay it just didn't jibe with what I knew. In the first place the schools are over 80 miles apart and his family would have had to move from Jefferson County to Park County for a change of schools like this to occur. When I went to the net to try to clear this up I was amazed to learn just how many sites have used Wikipedia's entry for there bio's of Trey. The other main bio's that I found didn't even mention his schooling before college. So instead of continuing to spin my wheels I simply called the two schools concerned.
- The secretary at South Park H.S. (719-836-2007) had lived in Fairplay for 40 years (and worked at the school for 20) confirmed that he had not attended school there.
- The secretary at Evergreen H.S. (303-982-5140) also confirmed that he had spent all of his high school years there.
I am noting this here so that Wikipedia editors, and other users who come to this page and find that it isn't the same as the Wikipage quoted at other sites, will understand why this change was made. I think it illustrates both the pitfalls of the net, in that an error made can get repeated so often that there is almost no way to fix it in all the places that it needs to be fixed, AND the power of Wikipedia, wherein once the research has been conducted it can, at least, be fixed here without having to wait years for a new edition to be published.MarnetteD | Talk 02:46, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Scientology?
I can't find anything to verify the claim that Matt Stone or Trey Parker "...along with Isaac Hayes are well known members of the Church of Scientology". I can find plenty of references to Isaac Hayes being a scientologist, none for Matt Stone or Trey Parker. What is the basis for this claim?
I'm almost 100% positive that he is NOT a member...As he as been known to ridicule Scientology.
Please Visit Talk: Matt Stone#Scientology? and view a similar topic. Also please use a signature when commenting. C. Pineda (クリス) (talk) 06:54, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
American History
According to the Team America article, he didn't do the American History film - this was something that Michael Moore implied falsely. Anyone know?
- Yes, there is a link to an interview in the note on the Team America article. It supports what the article says. --JGGardiner 20:05, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
They are obviously not saying as they done that episode which blatantly slagged scientology and all of its followers
Episode Writing
The article states, Parker and Stone will continue to write, direct and edit every episode of the show. Considering there have been numerous other writers credited with writing the show, this statement appears to be in error. David Hoag 17:11, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
- Parker has had sole writer and director credit on every episode for years. I don't have the information offhand, but I would take a guess that it's been about 4-5 years since another person has had either of those credits on the show. daleki 19:17, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
- I checked TV.com and various writers and directors other than Parker were credited for seasons one through six. On seasons seven through nine, Parker had sole credit. Stone has not had a writing nor directing credit in years. So the sentence I quoted is indeed incorrect. It suggests no other writer nor director has received credit, which is incorrect, and it suggests Stone has received sole credit, which is incorrect. Also, per the DGA and WGA Minimum Basic Agreements, writing and directing credits cannot be contractually determined; the actual finished work product dictates who receives credit. So I would suggest changing the sentence to something like: Parker is expected to write, direct, and edit each episode for the next three years. We don't know if he has an exclusive "put deal" contract, so if he goes off to work on another movie, other writers and/or directors may step in to do the work on South Park. David Hoag 21:19, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
Mormonism
There is repeated talk among Mormons and ex-Mormons that perhaps Trey Parker was at one point a Mormon. Unfortunately, there is no reliable information on this out there. Does anyone know for sure whether he was Mormon at some point? (Or was Matt Stone?) The only information about this seems to come from interviews in which Trey Parker notes that he grew up around Mormons (which makes sense in Colorado) and even dated one [1]. And one bio clearly states that Trey was never a Mormon (by baptism) [2]. Can anyone confirm this?
- I am watching Orgazmo right now. It is interesting that they've got many Mormon quirks in it, but it is so unlikely a scenario that these clues can't really be used to suggest that either Parker or Stone were Mormons. It appears more likely that his upbringing in the West exposed him to the Mormon culture. BUT this is all conjecture. I have not hard evidence to offer you. --Benn M. 08:57, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
- The "Mormon corridor" comprises southern Idaho, Utah and northern Arizona. It's the Western U.S. region in which The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and its many offshoots have a substantial political and cultural influence. The rural, westernmost portion of Colorado borders on Utah, and is within the realm of LDS influence, but the I-25 corridor is culturally distinct. Parker's birthplace is nearer the I-25 corridor than the Utah border. Still, Westerners tend to be especially cognizant of each others' religious differences, so Parker would certainly have been aware of the fact that there are | several LDS wards in the area.Rangergordon (talk) 11:12, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
I removed the information that claimed that Trey Parker is a Mormon, as no one has provided any verifiable evidence that this is true. Speculation shouldn't be considered as part of an encyclopedia Gregh2k5 (talk) 22:29, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Necessity of "Miscellaneous Facts"
Is this section really necessary? How important is it that Parker has blue eyes or named his cat Jake, especially when the guy is known for his comedy? --buck 04:39, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
I agree, especially because they don't have sources, and for all we know could have just been made up. Bshbass 20:18, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- Obviously the guy is hot so people want to know. If he was ugly no one would care —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.142.90.158 (talk) 06:31, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
trilingual?
It's obvious that trey speaks english. and i also know he can speak japanese. but i was watching the epsiode damien witht he comentary on, and both matt and trey said that they both speak fluent russian. and I thought they were joking but they were both really serious. so can they? does anybody know?
Stupid Link
Will someone please remove the link at the bottom? It goes to some nobody's blog, which in turn provides very little solid information and some obvious disinformation (he accuses Stone and Parker of racism for making the Arab characters "dark-skinned," for instance, which is rather incredible). Surely there's some other link to an article by someone either better-known or more competent. 70.112.100.91 23:17, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Birthplace
It says here Trey Parker was born in Auburn, Alabama. Can anyone confirm it?
http://movies.msn.com/celebs/celeb.aspx?c=203438
Also, how can he have been born in Manchester, England, and in Colorado?
Nickname
I removed:
- (hence the nickname "Trey": from the French très meaning "three") (**note: très in French is VERY; trois is three**)
Because as it says Trey is not French for 3. Is there any verification (source) that this is how he got the name 'Trey'? Ashmoo 07:10, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
- This is an amusing error, as tres is three in spanish, pronounced 'trez', but in French it would indeed be pronounced 'trey'. har har har MynameisRoB 21:05, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Dude, trey is poker slang for Three. Also, just regular slang. It doesn't come from the French or Spanish.
- His nickname is Trey because he is Randolph Sevin Parker III (Get it?) and his father Randolph Sevin Parker, Jr. Simon Bar Sinister (talk) 20:07, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Pro Life??
I removed him from the category of "Pro-Life Celebrities". Since when did he claim he was Pro-Life?! He's a Libertarian and they're usually always Pro-Choice! He even the reasonable students as being Pro Choice in "Chef Goes Nanners" and Cartman as Pro Life. Not to mention that he seemed to show that Stem Cell research can save a kid's life in "Kenny Dies". And although he portrayed Christopher Reeve as an abuser of Stem Cells, this was more of a parody then a Pro Life message.
- I personally think that South Park heavily implies that Matt and Trey are pro-life, but this is unverified, and they do say that the show doesn't always reflect their own moral stance.
- He's a Libertarian and they're usually always Pro-Choice!
Actually...I'm a staunch libertarian and I'm pro-life. --Rambone (Talk) 06:37, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
- Then you aren't a staunch libertarian. --68.58.50.143 03:23, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Who the hell are you to tell me what I am? Libertarians aren't blindly pro-choice, regardless of what your opinion on the matter is. Rambone (Talk) 16:06, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
- Fella. Libertarians are not to tell people what they should or should not do. If you oppose abortion to the extent where you're representing its prohibition, I really would not consider you a true libertarian. Mickeymacaroni 10:07, 12 April 2007 (CET)
Libertarians are against the illegalization of victimless crimes (drug use, prostitution, etc) and many disagree whether or not abortion is victimless. Pro-life libertarians view abortion as murder. Look at Ron Paul's positions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FernoKlump (talk • contribs) 03:20, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
B.S.
Please tell me where you got the information that most libertarins are pro choice. Next time, check your facts. And also i dont think a pro choice person would like the way they treat abortion in 901. They almost certainly lean pro life.And although he portrayed Christopher Reeve as an abuser of Stem Cells, this was more of a parody then a Pro Life message. Yeah right. They were mocking pro choice advocates.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_perspectives_on_abortion
Reply: Well, Libertarianism is based on the ideas of limited government intervention and they usually are against government interference in reproductive rights, like abortion. There are a few Pro Life Libertarians, but then again, there are Pro Life Democrats. It's a small minority of Libertarians that are pro-life. What I'm saying is they have had a few messages that may seem against abortion, but then again they have showed Stem Cell research as a good thing in "Kenny Dies". They cancel each other out. I'm not saying they're DEFINITLY NOT Pro Life, I'm just saying there is not enough evidence to prove it. Oh Yeah and sorry if I seemed a bit arrogant and rude to you in the section above. It was a bit unnessisary and immature.
I was kind of rude there too.Peace.
Could someone please remove and replace the extremely inappropriate, Hollywood-esque, picture of Trey Parker. I am sure he himself would not approve of it. Azgambo
This guy is super cute! Seriously! I'd no idea that such a handsome guy did the voice for such an ugly pervo as Cartman. Shandristhe azylean 08:44, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
- As attractive as he is, this isn't the place to discuss it.Voltair3 (talk) 16:02, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Bio source
Is this bio practically copied verbatim from http://www.treyparker.info or the other way around?
Confusion
I'm a bit confused by the line "In addition to currently working on the tenth season of South Park, he is also a big fan of Spongebob Squarepants." I'm not quite sure of the relevency of the Spongebob part or what being a fan of Spongebob Squarepants has to do with working on another season of South Park...
- Agreed, so boldly removed.
Voice Acting
Do they digitally alter the pitch of Matt and Trey's voice for the South Park kids?
- Yes they do, It was shown in a behind the scene look at South Park on Nightline. Simon Bar Sinister (talk) 03:32, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
Trey is NOT an agnostic
I removed the reference to him being agnostic. Matt Stone is agnsotic not Trey. Trey said in a recent interview that he believes in God and even said that he's religious. However, he said that he doesn't really believe in the stories that are in the Bible, Quran, etc. Rambone (Talk) 03:21, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
By that definition, he sounds pretty agnostic. Matt Stone has all but said that he is an atheist. Not the same. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.203.220.176 (talk) 03:58, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
According to this interview with Stone and Parker, they seem to be pretty close to agnostic. To quote the article:
- Stone: I was raised agnostic. There was no religion in my house.
- Parker: I was pretty much the same.
meinsla talk 16:19, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Southpark repetitions
next to "Thats my Bush" was his roles in it: -co-creator, writer, executive producer,south park, south park , south park , south park, south park, south park theme composer and performer. Someone care to explain why the hell south park was repeated 6 times? Ether way I removed it. Toxic Ninja 20:28, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Not sure about the information "BASEketball reference in SP Passion of the Jew"
Its written in this article:
- Parker rips on himself in the South Park episode, The Passion of the Jew: Stan demands his money back after seeing the Passion of the Christ, saying he should be able to get his money back just like after he saw BASEketball. -
Stan does not refer to BASEketball in the episode ive seen. Maybe he did at first but it was edited later for some reason? Anyway someone maybe should check this information. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.152.119.79 (talk) 19:11, 22 February 2007 (UTC).
Watch the episode. Stan states after leaving the theatre with Kenny to get his money back from Mel Gibson that "this is just like the time when we saw BASEketball."
Depression?
The part of the article discussing his "depression and alcoholism" offers no external links and an informal tone. In particular, the statement "he is often seen incoherent and drunk". This seems rather inflammatory. If no source interview can be provided, it should be deleted. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 150.250.207.167 (talk) 22:45, 6 April 2007 (UTC).
- The recent interview was an article in the magazine Rolling Stone. However, there was no mention of depression, nor any reference to his being "often seen incoherent and drunk". Agreed, the section should be removed. --Pgva 02:00, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
- I read the article. Trey Parker talked a lot about how he loves drinking and how his wife thinks he's a more fun person when he's drinking. There was nothing about his drinking leading to depression. He actually discussed that he prefers to drink every day because of how much he enjoys drinking. Leopold Stotch 05:16, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
- He went into a state of deep depression after finding out his wife-to-be was cheating on him (with a friend,I think).Go to the official Cannibal the musical website. It explains it there in the production notes section. And if iit's been deleted, it should be put back up, because it is true.--Swellman 03:57, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry Swellman, but you are wrong. The Cannibal the Musical story took place in 1992 AND notes that he came out of that depression after one month. What you say should be "put back up" here is the suggestion that he is depressed currently, in 2007. --Pgva 19:51, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
- So? It's still notable that he went into a state of deep depression during that time. And I never said that he still was depressed. I'm just saying that it's notable to put that his wife-to-be cheated on him and that he was depressed for a long while after that. And i'm pretty sure it was more than one month. I'll have to look it up again.--Swellman 21:15, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Libertarianism
At one point, this wikipedia entry noted that Trey was a registered Libertarian. Why was this removed? It's in the categories, but I thought it was worth mentioning in the article because his political beliefs are a major part of South Park, Team America, etc. --71.236.20.221 05:12, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
- The show appeals to Americans of all political stripes. Attempts by conservatives and free-market libertarians to claim South Park's success as their own is disingenuous in light of Parker/Stone's willingness to puncture hypocrisy regardless of its political persuasion. Rangergordon (talk) 11:22, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
- What has Trey being registered as a Libertarian Party member to do with South Park? If he is in fact a member it should be noted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.137.69.236 (talk) 19:47, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
- Honestly, it should be added in that he is a Libertarian. This isn't an article about South Park, it's an article about Trey Parker and if he is in fact a Libertarian (as said, he is in the category of American Libertarians) it should be noted on his page. It's relevent to Trey Parker as person, it doesn't matter if it's relevent to South Park or not.Voltair3 (talk) 22:24, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
- Watch the show a little bit closer, will ya? Earlier revisions of the article identified Trey as a Libertarian. I don't get why this was removed. 85.182.126.118 (talk) 01:55, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
- It has everything to do with him. Unless you argue that politics is not a major theme in South Park and other things related to him, I think it's obvious that his political views should be mentioned in the article. I would say that whatever his political views are, they need to be well-documented and well-sourced before they are included in the article. Other Wikipedia entries claim that people have political views without providing sources. A good example is the Hugh Hefner article 76.102.7.77 (talk) 03:16, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
I've created an article for Matt and Trey's upcoming film, Giant Monsters Attack Japan!. It is in need of expert editing. If you want to help improve the article, you can discuss it on the talk page. Thank you.--Swellman 03:49, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
Birthname
Randolph Severn "Trey" Parker III I think "Trey" shouldn't be here because he adopted this name later —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.85.133.66 (talk) 15:54, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Musical work
Just wondering why there is no mention of DVDA, the band he and Matt Stone are part of, on any of the sections in this article? ~ Brother William 00:58, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
Image
I got another image for Trey Parker. The other one didn't seem to look like him.--Jasper1066 (talk) 17:58, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Atheism
First, I think it is somewhat misleading to quote his views from the interview about atheism; this makes Trey sound PARTICULARLY against atheism, when he's noted for being mostly against any established religion in general (although he finds them fascinating). While he's not an admitted agnostic, the section on religious belief should be more ambiguous, since that one quote from Nightline is not representative of his body of work, and there are other quotes from him criticizing other religions which aren't shown in the section.
Secondly, according to the South Park Season 10 commentary on the episode "Go God Go" (Part 1), he is more sympathetic to atheism than the earlier interview suggested. Matt says in the commentary that when Penn Jillette contacted and explained atheism to him in a less whiny tone than the way Dawkins wrote most of his notorious material, it was much easier to understand, learn, and support. While this was Matt speaking, Trey mutters 'yeah' a couple of times and generally seems to feel the same way, mentioning Penn a couple times elsewhere in the commentary mini for the episode. 71.188.171.104 (talk) 23:19, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think Trey is anti-atheist anymore then he is anti-religious, which is he finds quirks in both, but generally doesn't have any real hatred towards. I would like to add that the Super Best Friends episode doesn't support that he is "against" organized religion (would a person against organized religion have a message that says that we can find something good in every religion?), and the later imaginationland episode again shows the fascination with religion. Could you provide a quote showing the Trey is against religion? From looking at their shows, they do seem to be against some hiarchical religions, such as Catholics and scientologists, However,the upper echelons are usually the ones attacked, and even then they aren't always portrayed as evil. For example, the Pope in the Easter special was portrayed as naive, and so were much of the high ranking scientologists, but certainly not evil the way they portray some other groups (if Dawkins wrote fiction). Religious extremists are also attacked (Muslim terrorists), but are not portrayed as representing the religion in general. Other then that, Trey doesn't seem to be against most organized religions. Followers of orgainzed religion are generally portrayed as naive and clueless , but never evil the way some other groups are portrayed (such as the tolerance police, anti-smokers, environmentalists(???, never really got South Parks beef with this group, but this must have something to do with their libertarian background). --Jtd00123 (talk) 04:01, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- To elaborate on what he said, it can be determined that he is against atheism as much as he is against religious "fanatics." The Go God Go episodes were pretty critical of Dawkins-style atheism, rather than atheism in general, just as their generic episodes on religion are not critical of religion, but fanatics in general. I think if they were critical of religion, their chosen voice actors would probably show that, which it doesn't. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.198.83.12 (talk) 01:38, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
Someone added this comment at the end of Parker's quote about athesm: "Which is not Atheism at all." While people don't have to agree with Parker's characterization of Atheism, such a comment has no place in this section. It doesn't matter if Parker is using the correct definition of the word Atheism. What matters is the converys Parker's attitude about the subject correctly.
Someone Rickrolled trey
if you haven't noticed alread trey's biography has been rickrolled. who would do such a thing??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Goten677 (talk • contribs) 15:07, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Canada
Ok, what is it with these guys Trey and Matt and Canada?
Working in student exchanges, 30 years ago most of these kids didn't even know where Canada was. Today they all know and even want to go there, thinking its a nice place and people.
They're both born and raised in the US right?
So what's with them and Canada? Befuddler (talk) 09:54, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
- Considering that Matt and Trey mock a lot of societies, religions, people, etc. I don't really think it's a matter of them having a problem with Canada. It's just something they make fun of on the show, a running gag definitely, since they've made fun of Canada numerous times, but I doubt they have any real, serious problem with the country.Voltair3 (talk) 16:04, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
if you are a canadian it may not be obvious to you, but a reoccurring "theme" in american comedy involves friendly/funny criticism of canada as being behind the times or overly friendly. Jokes like this can be found in every single popular cartoon (family guy, simpsons, south park, american dad, etc.). it is soo common, that the jokes require no preface. someone can just tell a joke that infers that canadians, say for example, are extremely lenient in their prison systems by having a prisoner character say to a guard near an exit: "can I go?" followed by the guards response "yep, just be back for supper." (family guy, I believe). this is typical american comedy; absolutely nothing specific to south park.
the only reason they have a few episodes focused on canada is simply that even by the time the first episode had come out, the number of topics/people/places/things to do episodes on had already been shorted drastically. I mean, they have something like >150 episodes. If you say, hey lets make an episode making fun of canada! Any and all Americans will understand the jokes, and find it funny.
Of course most people know it is complete bullshit, and that nothing represented in the cartoon is actually accurate, but it is more of a "fake" but "common" conception of canada. people might say this is typical american generalizations, but those people are beyond retarded. every country or group of people make generalizations. people in canada/Europe/asia/etc have a sterotype/generalization of americans that are mocked or made fun of in their own humor and satire. it all works the same way. everyone is intollerant, everyone makes generalizations, everyone makes stereotypes, etc. It just happens to be "in style" to criticize america due 100% to our foreign policy. there are stupid, backwards, ignorant, bigots in every country and of every nationality. the ONLY distinguishing characteristic is the US' foreign policy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.177.16.146 (talk) 11:06, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
GA Review
- This review is transcluded from Talk:Trey Parker/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
I'll be reviewing this article shortly. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:58, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
- It is reasonably well written.
- a (prose):
b (MoS):
- Some prose glitches and info in the lead that isn't in the body of the article.
- a (prose):
- It is factually accurate and verifiable.
- a (references):
b (citations to reliable sources):
c (OR):
- some unreliable sources, some statements that need citations, and some citations that do not support the information being cited.
- a (references):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects):
b (focused):
- Needs more development of other aspects of his life and some more development of the religious quotes given.
- a (major aspects):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
- Religiuos quotes given without context
- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars etc.:
- No edit wars etc.:
- It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
- a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):
b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- little to no discussion of the screenshot in the article.
- a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):
- Overall:
- Pass/Fail:
- Pass/Fail:
Specific concerns
- Although the Stan Marsh shot has a fair use rationale for its inclusion, I'm not sure it qualifies for use in this article. There is little to no discussion of the image in the article.
- Current refs 2 and 3 are lacking publishers and last access dates, which are required for WP:V.
- Copyvio concerns with the tv.com site. The first sentence of "early life" is very close to the first sentence of the tv.com article.
- I'm unclear what the position on religion has to do with anything. It's just thrown out there, undeveloped. Given this is a BLP, you need to explain a bit more why you're including this information.
- You mention in the lead that Matt Stone is a college friend, but it's not mentioned in the body of the article. All information in the lead should be in the body of the article also.
- Need a citation for the second and third sentences of the first paragraph of Early life.
- What makes http://www.spscriptorium.com/ a reliable source?
- Likewise http://www.spschat.com/?
- Prose .. a LOT of your sentences start ... "In (year)..." consider varying this to other phrasing.
- Career section, first paragraph, second sentence. "... one called Kenny who looked like Cartman..." .. who is Cartman? He's not been mentioned previously.
- There is nothing in the body of the article on the developement, etc. of South Park. If that's what he's mainly known for, this should be developed more in the body of the article.
- OR problem: Career section, second paragraph, third sentence "In 1999, Parker and Stone made South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut, which gave the series promience." the source given does not support the "which gave the series promience." statement.
- Need citation for the first two sentences of the second paragraph of career section.
- Need a citation for the eighth sentence of the second paragraph of Career. "The content was so extreme that it was cancelled after two shows aired."
- Need a citation for "In 2001, they also created That's My Bush!, another television series. Despite great reviews, the show was cancelled after one season for the cost per episode."
- Need a citation for the "The film was given positive reviews."
- Need a citation for the fact that South Park is still producing new episodes.
- This is a biography, so it should use the {{persondata}} template.
- Is he married? Children? Anything else on his personal life? What are his influences on his work?
- I've put the article on hold for seven days to allow folks to address the issues I've brought up. Feel free to contact me on my talk page, or here with any concerns, and let me know one of those places when the issues have been addressed. If I may suggest that you strike out, check mark, or otherwise mark the items I've detailed, that will make it possible for me to see what's been addressed, and you can keep track of what's been done and what still needs to be worked on. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:40, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
- Since no work has been done on this article in the 7 day hold, nor have I heard anything, I am failing this article. Ealdgyth - Talk 19:00, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
wife
Didn't he get married in 2006? You'd think that would be an important piece of information, wouldn't you? I think her names Ema.
- I think he's gay. Honestly, that's not a joke. --86.132.3.239 (talk) 17:30, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
I heard that too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.51.89.11 (talk) 05:59, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Is this reliable? It says he married in Hawaii, jan. 2006 to Ema Sugiyama. http://treyparker.info/biography.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zoomazooma (talk • contribs) 10:25, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Trey's sister; Shelley
In an episode commentary, Trey said that Shelley was 3 years older than him, but here it says younger. I have to change this. Bramblestar (ShadowClan Leader) (talk) 03:43, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
Winterfresh
Why the hell is Matt Stone and Trey Parker's wikipedia articles linked to winterfresh gum?--74.131.91.57 (talk) 22:32, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
- It had been added to Template:Trey Parker and Matt Stone about a month ago without explanation. Guess you were the first to notice. --Onorem♠Dil 22:41, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
The boy band E.Y.C.
Trey McKay Parker, who is in the boy band E.Y.C., is not Randolph Severn Parker III. They are different people. http://eyc.zacharywoodlee.com/Bio.html http://www.thefreelibrary.com/EYC%27S+KICKS+ARE+FOR+KIDS+-+AND+MOMS,+TOO+--+WHAT%27S+TO+LIKE%3F+TREY...-a064014460 Charliehudd (talk) 20:07, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
My all-American is the name of one of the Trey Parker and Matt Stone films, and it should be mentioned in their filmography. http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/359010/My-All-American/overview http://www.movieweb.com/news/NEowSoprG6Evrx MsMrgan 12:08, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
Personal life
The fact that Trey Parker is married to Emma Sugiyama is missing. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005295/bio http://treyparker.info/biography.htm MsMrgan 12:30, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
Comedy influence
Was he influenced by any of George Carlin's routines? I'm not saying like he's a stand up or anything but one of South Park's major themes is making fun of political correctness. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.38.109.242 (talk) 19:51, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
- I don't think that George Carlin invented making fun of being politically correct if that's what you're claiming. Do you have any references of him saying that George Carlin influenced him considerably? OlYellerTalktome 18:02, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
How's Your News
There's no mention in this article of Trey and Matt's involvement with How's Your News?.
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