Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Russia

Russia articles by quality and importance Quality Importance Top High Mid Low NA ??? Total FA 8 17 29 30 1 85 FL 2 4 6 2 14 FM 90 90 A 2 3 11 7 23 GA 28 39 117 227 2 413 B 217 294 509 727 226 1,973 C 351 611 1,200 2,757 736 5,655 Start 449 1,549 6,515 14,427 1 2,414 25,355 Stub 12 236 4,132 45,348 3 3,611 53,342 List 69 93 406 3,116 36 189 3,909 Category 21,131 21,131 Disambig 1 245 246 File 465 465 Portal 25 25 Project 140 140 Redirect 585 1,469 2,054 Template 4,265 4,265 NA 1 3 21 10 35 Other 1 124 125 Assessed 1,138 2,847 12,928 67,249 28,004 7,179 119,345 Unassessed 409 1,516 1,925 Total 1,138 2,847 12,928 67,658 28,004 8,695 121,270 WikiWork factors (?) ω = 475,897 Ω = 5.48

Russian Ground Forces

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Assessments heads-up

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Things we can do

Could some of the members of our numerous membership base please comment at Portal talk:Russia/Things you can do regarding how the "what you can do" banner situated at the top of this very page should be treated? Should we just worship it or is anyone planning on actually putting it to some use? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 19:01, March 30, 2009 (UTC)

Infobox practices and original research

There is a discussion going on at Template talk:Infobox Russian federal city regarding whether determining the elevation of a city via Google Earth is considered original research, and whether poorly-definable figures such as metro area/population should be included in the infoboxes at all. Additional input there would most certainly be appreciated.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 14:48, May 6, 2009 (UTC)

Chechens in Poland

Don't you think that we should expand Chechen_people#Geography_and_diaspora? Those sluggards are creating more and more problems, gaining national attention.

terror template

can someone create a template for the list of terror attacks in russia along the lines of that of pakistan, iraq or india (Template:Campaignbox Mumbai terrorism or Template:Campaignbox India terrorism)??

peer review

Can we get this article peer reviewed? 2010_Moscow_Metro_bombings it should be a GA or jsut below at least.

Cosmonautics Day

Could someone translate and add to this article following paragraph: В Российской Федерации День космонавтики отмечается в соответствии со статьёй 1.1 Федерального закона от 13 марта 1995 года № 32-ФЗ «О днях воинской славы и памятных датах России»[1]. http://ntc.duma.gov.ru/duma_na/asozd/asozd_text.php?code=22479—Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.225.67.229 (talk • contribs)

Done.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); April 30, 2010; 13:02 (UTC)

Militsiya

There's a discussion at Talk:Militsiya#Merger about a possibility of merging that article elsewhere (because the current title is not a very good choice). If you have comments/suggestions/concerns, please voice them there. Thanks.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); May 20, 2010; 16:11 (UTC)

More eyes needed at 2010 Chechen Parliament attack

More eyes needed at 2010 Chechen Parliament attack. A misguided editor inserted heaps of Kavkazcenter material in the article, etc. Offliner (talk) 17:55, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Death anomalies

Hi, We have a number of anomalies where people are dead on RU wiki but not here on EN wiki. In some cases it would really help if a Russian speaker could check Russian language sources for the individuals concerned. Would anyone here be willing to lend a hand? Incidentally if any of you are active on RU wiki, it would be nice to get them to request an anomaly report at meta:Death_anomalies_table as there are bound to be some articles on RU wiki which still have people as living when on another language we have them as dead. ϢereSpielChequers 16:24, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Some of the anomalies seem to be due to different approaches. Abdul-Malik al-Houthi's article, for example, says that he potentially may still be alive, while the Russian wiki simply lists him as dead. With Brothers Hildebrandt, one of the brothers died in 2006, which is why the Russian Wikipedia lists the article in its "Died in 2006" category; the English Wikipedia mentions one of the brothers' death but assigns the article to no such category. I suspect a lot of discrepancies are going to be of this nature. Any suggestions what to do when the discrepancy is not obvious?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); October 22, 2010; 16:39 (UTC)

Hi Ezhiki, the report isn't ideal for dealing with articles about two people rather than one, especially if one is dead and the other isn't. Where we have one article describing someone as missing presumed dead and the other as missing then we also get anomalies, though sometimes they can be fixed by adding some sourced info to one or other article. We have several anomalies against FR wiki re early twentieth century sportspeople about whom nothing is known since they were in their twenties. The French assume someone who would be in their nineties is dead and we assume they are alive unless they'd be the oldest person recorded. But I was hoping for help on ones like Richard Goldstone (ru:Умершие в 1938 году) who looks to me like a category error on RU wiki. Valeri Dikaryov (ru:Умершие в 2001 году), Valeri Kravchenko (ru:Умершие в 1995 году), Vasili Postnov (ru:Умершие в 2009 году), Vladimir Ulanov (ru:Умершие в 2000 году) and Zakaria Mohieddin (ru:Умершие в 2009 году / uk:Померли 2009) Most of whom probably are dead but we may need Russian sources to confirm it. Regards ϢereSpielChequers 17:22, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

OK then. I have fixed Goldstone (his dob was recorded in the dod field of the infobox, which generates the dob/dod categories using those fields). I'll go through the rest of people in your list as well, but the problem is that the Russian Wikipedia is notorious for not citing its sources (Dikaryov is one example). Many articles would have the death date, but no source, which makes the whole endeavor mostly moot. My recommendation would be to leave just those articles for which the dod is sourced, and seek sources for other discrepancies elsewhere.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); October 22, 2010; 19:11 (UTC)

Thanks Ezhik, as I said we've done 90% of these and the ones left are often the most difficult. If the Russian article has a sourced death date then usually someone has tried to understand it with Google translate. But I'm hoping that as well as fixing anomalies like Goldstone, this project might have people with access to Russian language sources which I'm hoping the RU wiki articles had used even if they didn't cite them. ϢereSpielChequers 20:46, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

FV Athena

I've created the FV Athena article. Are the linked pages from this website relevant to the history of this ship, which appears to have suffered its third fire today. Text is all in Russian, so it's a bit beyond me and Google translate. Mjroots (talk) 11:11, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject cleanup listing

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Moscow Institute of Electronic Technology (National Research University)

Perhaps some of you would be able to help at Moscow Institute of Electronic Technology (National Research University) where there is a dispute about wikilinking of dates, inclusion or exclusion from categories, the name of the university and how it is expressed, and other matters. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:24, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Some same problems have appeared in some other articles about Russian universities (see Special:Contributions/Ksaine). Alex Spade (talk) 09:22, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Alex Spade let me understand, what we discussing here? My contributions or the real questions/problems at the page? Rewrite please your comment/message or delete it: for example give more specific wikilinks you interested in. Thank You. Any Your contributions without answer to this message - and I'll delete it myself or talk admins about deletion. --Ksaine (user talk · user contributions) 14:41, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

I suggest, you actions in the articles about Russian universities (renanimg / categorisation / wikilinks / external links (quantity/quality) / acronyms / commons links) must be reviewed by WikiProject Russia editors. Alex Spade (talk) 09:04, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Praskovya Ivanovskaya

The article Praskovya Ivanovskaya has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

A search for references found a few minor mentions of the subject in published (gBooks) works, also a Russian language artice is not found using the given spelling "Прасковья Ивановская". Fails WP:N and WP:V

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ru:Национальный исследовательский ядерный университет «МИФИ» → ru:Московский инженерно-физический институт (Национальный исследовательский ядерный университет)

Please, somebody rename this article as it done in Moscow Engineering Physics Institute (National Research Nuclear University). First naming is brend or “also known as”. The both names are official and shown at official website Template:Ru icon official website. See, the name «Московский инженерно-физический институт (Национальный исследовательский ядерный университет)» uses here: first top line: «Устав государственного образовательного учреждения высшего профессионального образования «„Московский инженерно-физический институт (Национальный исследовательский ядерный университет)“»
The problem is one: I'm block at Russian Wikipedia and can't change it myself.
Thank You. --Ksaine (user talk · user contributions) 17:51, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

• Have you seen changes to University charter from May 12, 2009? Alex Spade (talk) 09:09, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
• At any rate, English Wikipedia is not a good place to request making changes in ru_wiki. Russian Wikipedia is not in scope of this WikiProject. You should wait for your block to expire and then request changes in an appropriate venue there.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); November 15, 2010; 14:59 (UTC)

Replacing Russian nationality with location or company link

As I've explained here, I think we should replace "X is a Russian company/product/technology" with "X is a company based in Moscow, Russia" or "X is a technology developed by Y (+company wikilink)". This would bring Russian articles in line with American ones. In American products, like Boeing 737, the nationality is not mentioned in the lead, so why should it be mentioned in articles about Russian products? I think this is a bias that should be fixed. Offliner (talk) 14:17, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Will somebody pls look at Kalduny

I'm danish, writing on danish wikipedia and are participating in the Danish variant of WikiProject Lithuania, and wants to translate the artickle about Kalduny. But .... I am sorry to say, this artickle is of so low quality that I will have to rewrite it totally! Pls. look at my critic on the talkpage! PerV (talk) 12:32, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Help regarding Kamo

I am trying to determine whether Kamo was actually buried in Lenin Square. I thought someone related to this project could find a source to support this assertion. Any help would be most appreciated. Remember (talk) 15:19, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Not sure if this helps (do an inline search for the paragraph containing "1903"), but that's all I could find after a quick search.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); December 2, 2010; 17:57 (UTC)

That was very helpful (once I used google translate). Turns out he is buried in Puskin square and not Lenin Square. Interesting. Remember (talk) 18:32, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

It's actually not translated "Pushikin Square", but rather "Pushkin Park", or public garden... And the Lenin Square article mentions a bust to Pushkin in the vicinity of Kamo's grave, so perhaps that's nearby? Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); December 2, 2010; 19:12 (UTC)

Could someone help, please?

I've written an article on Ozerov's 1970 movie Liberation (Osvobozhdenie). Would someone care to review it further (many of the sources are in Russian)? Many thanks. Bahavd Gita (talk) 20:40, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Removing the Cyrillic version of names from the lede of Russian biography pages

It has long been standard practice to give the Cyrillic version of Russian names in the first sentence of Wikipedia biographical articles. Some editors have recently moved to change this and put the Cyrillic in a footnote instead. They already have altered Sergei Rachmaninoff, Leo Tolstoy and Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky accordingly. Since this has the potential to affect thousands of articles I thought it would be better to get wider input from editors most involved in these pages. There is currently a discussion of the issue at Talk:Sergei Rachmaninoff. Cheers. --Folantin (talk) 13:56, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

SORT

SORT has been requested to be renamed Strategic Offensive Reductions Treaty, see Talk:SORT

65.95.13.158 (talk) 10:32, 21 December 2010 (UTC)