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:::That's just the IAST convention, the long "ee" sound is transliterated as "ī". However, the english word uses "ee". if you do a google search for "Dipavali" ([http://www.google.com/search?q=Dipavali click here]), it'll redirect you to search results for "Deepavali". [[User:Snowcream|Snowcream]] ([[User talk:Snowcream|talk]]) 11:23, 24 October 2011 (UTC) |
:::That's just the IAST convention, the long "ee" sound is transliterated as "ī". However, the english word uses "ee". if you do a google search for "Dipavali" ([http://www.google.com/search?q=Dipavali click here]), it'll redirect you to search results for "Deepavali". [[User:Snowcream|Snowcream]] ([[User talk:Snowcream|talk]]) 11:23, 24 October 2011 (UTC) |
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::::Ironically, that same search is headed "Diwali is on Wednesday October 26, 2012"; make of that what you will... [[User:Moonraker12|Moonraker12]] ([[User talk:Moonraker12|talk]]) 13:37, 24 October 2011 (UTC) |
::::Ironically, that same search is headed "Diwali is on Wednesday October 26, 2012"; make of that what you will... [[User:Moonraker12|Moonraker12]] ([[User talk:Moonraker12|talk]]) 13:37, 24 October 2011 (UTC) |
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*'''Support'''. I've never seen anyone saying Diwali except online! The page should be renamed and moved from ''Diwali'' to '''Deepavali'''. [[User:C0MRADE|Ben]] ([[User talk:C0MRADE|talk]]) 21:55, 24 October 2011 (UTC) |
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*'''Support'''. '''Deepavali''' is the common word used universally. '''Diwali''' is just the term used mainly in North India ([[Hindi]] speaking areas) only. Diwali is actually shortened from Deepavali. In South India the original term Deepavali only is used. The article sould be named Deepavali to maintain neutrality. <br/>'''[[User:Anishviswa|<font style="font-family:monotype corsiva; color:#2554c7; font-size:14px; font-weight:bold; letter-spacing:1px; font-style: italic; background-color:#ffe87c; text-align:center; margin:0px;">Anish Viswa </font>]]''' 03:32, 24 October 2011 (UTC) |
*'''Support'''. '''Deepavali''' is the common word used universally. '''Diwali''' is just the term used mainly in North India ([[Hindi]] speaking areas) only. Diwali is actually shortened from Deepavali. In South India the original term Deepavali only is used. The article sould be named Deepavali to maintain neutrality. <br/>'''[[User:Anishviswa|<font style="font-family:monotype corsiva; color:#2554c7; font-size:14px; font-weight:bold; letter-spacing:1px; font-style: italic; background-color:#ffe87c; text-align:center; margin:0px;">Anish Viswa </font>]]''' 03:32, 24 October 2011 (UTC) |
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Gazetted public holiday?
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There are a few points where the article switches between the words deepavali and diwali, sometimes within the same sentence or paragraph. These words are both acceptable, but other than the sections where the words themselves are being contrasted, wouldn't it be better for consistency sake to decide on one term and stick with it through an entire paragraph or section instead of flip-flopping? 76.179.52.143 (talk) 19:05, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
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Is there any greeting specific to, or used by those celebrating Diwali? That is, is there anything similar to an exchange of 'Merry Christmas'/'Happy New Year' (or 'Eid Mubarak', or 'Tashi Delek'). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.136.24.81 (talk) 12:11, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
About Buddhism and Diwali.
The information about Ashoka is given totally wrong. Ashoka did not accepted Buddhism on the day of Diwali. Ashoka became Buddhist on the day of Vijayadashmi (you may say it Dasra of Hindu Religion) This article is misleading people. Neither Buddhist people worship Buddha on the occasion of Diwali. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.61.26.168 (talk) 18:46, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
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Diwali → Deepavali – Deepavali is the original Sanskrit name (and still the name of the festival outside the Hindi belt). Diwali is just a regional version of the name. Snowcream (talk) 06:30, 22 October 2011 (UTC) In many articles related to Hinduism, Wikipedia has used the original Sanskrit name. This article should conform to that consistency and not use the Hindi term. Snowcream (talk) 17:29, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
- But whoever uses Deepavali anymore? I mean, in Bangladesh we use Deepavali (pronounced Dipaboli) but Diwali is the most popularly used term. Ratibgreat (talk) 06:34, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
- Deepavali, the original term is very popular as well, especially in Southern India. The article's current name of Diwali is a reflection of the systemic bias that exists. The name "Deepavali" - because of being the original term preserves the neutrality of the article title. Snowcream (talk) 21:08, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
- Oppose The old Sanskrit name doesn't matter, we don't live in the ancient past here. Diwali is the most common name now. D O N D E groovily Talk to me 07:05, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
- If the festival were now universally celebrated under the name of Diwali, i would have concurred with your view; but that is not the case.Snowcream (talk) 21:08, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
- The article says the Sanskrit is Dīpāvalī. Where does the "Deepavali" (or should it be De'epāvalī?) come from? — AjaxSmack 02:23, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
- That's just the IAST convention, the long "ee" sound is transliterated as "ī". However, the english word uses "ee". if you do a google search for "Dipavali" (click here), it'll redirect you to search results for "Deepavali". Snowcream (talk) 11:23, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
- Ironically, that same search is headed "Diwali is on Wednesday October 26, 2012"; make of that what you will... Moonraker12 (talk) 13:37, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
- That's just the IAST convention, the long "ee" sound is transliterated as "ī". However, the english word uses "ee". if you do a google search for "Dipavali" (click here), it'll redirect you to search results for "Deepavali". Snowcream (talk) 11:23, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
- Support. I've never seen anyone saying Diwali except online! The page should be renamed and moved from Diwali to Deepavali. Ben (talk) 21:55, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
- Support. Deepavali is the common word used universally. Diwali is just the term used mainly in North India (Hindi speaking areas) only. Diwali is actually shortened from Deepavali. In South India the original term Deepavali only is used. The article sould be named Deepavali to maintain neutrality.
Anish Viswa 03:32, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
- The common name in fact appears to be "Diwali"; 35.5 million google hits[1], as opposed to 10.7 million[2] for "Deepavali". And the name used in Britain, at least, is "Diwali". So I'd oppose the move. Moonraker12 (talk) 13:29, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
- The notion of "common name" that you entertained here is faulty. North Indians and people of North Indian origin form a sheer majority among Hindus and this numerical advantage is what you perceived as a common name. In Britain, this festival is only celebrated by people of Indian origin; among whom North Indians again form a huge majority. My point here is that the name "Diwali" contains a bias in itself, where as "Deepavali" by virtue of being the original name upholds neutrality. Moreover, many North Indians do call the festival "Deepavali" too. "Deepavali" has universal acceptance which "Diwali" does not enjoy. Snowcream (talk) 17:22, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
- Plus; in a Google.com search, I got 10.7 m hits for "Deepavali" ([3]) and 11.9 m hits for "Diwali" ([4]). not a significant lead. Snowcream (talk) 17:22, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Oppose per COMMONNAME. 189k books for Diwali v/s 46.4 k for Deepavali. News: Diwali v/s Deepavali. The common greeting is "Happy Diwali", not "Happy Deepavali". --Redtigerxyz Talk 17:25, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
- Common name where? universally ? Snowcream (talk) 17:29, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
- I am not contesting the name "Diwali" on the basis of "common name" (the reason for which I have already explained). It's about Systemic bias and neutrality in title. You cannot even argue that "Diwali" upholds these values. Snowcream (talk) 17:41, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
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