Talk:Amanda Lear

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Ethnic origin

I reverted this in-article comment and edits conforming to it:

The mother of Amanda Lear was not Chinese actually. She was of Russian origin and her Father was Half French, half English.

The article is largely unsourced anyway, but especially given someone with invented personal history, we should make sure of this and cite if possible. For now I've left it French father, Chinese mother. --Dhartung | Talk 08:35, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

This article does not say that Amanda Lear was born a male, named Alain Tapp, that she is a transexual who underwent sexual reasignment surgery in the early 70s. Before that, she used the stage name of Peki D'Oslo and worked for the famous parisian transvestite showclub "Le Carrousel". Amanda often denies her transexuality (although there are many pictures of he/her before the begining of ther feminization process available at the internet) but it is an open secret among the transgered comunity worldwide and such denials just help to add to her mistique. I think that the fact that she is a transexual woman only makes her personal story more amazing.

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NOTE: These reports about transsexuality are around since long and there is actually no proof to my knowledge. Rather than trusting reports on provate web sites that claim that Amanda Lear is a transsexual, we should rather leave this detail to the domain of rumours. The samme holds for the birthdate. To claim that 18 Nov 1946 is not her birthday is without basis. The date 18 Nov 1946 is the one that Amanda Lear officially claims as her birthday. While that may be wrong, who else can we trust???

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Angela Bowie states in "Backstage Passes" that Amanda was born in Vietnam and was part French.jeanne (talk) 08:05, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry? no proofes? Thats wrong! The people who once worked with her (in the 60s) are proofes! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.219.219.71 (talk) 15:17, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Question Marks?

What is with all the question marks with various bits of information in the article? Remove that ASAP. SchmuckyTheCat

WikiProject class rating

This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 02:13, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Why the Birth name is "Alain Tapp (?)" ?

The differents french government website clearly stated that Amanda Lear was born Amanda Trapp. [[1]] And why this article is listed in transexual categories ? There is no proof, wikipedia should stay factual, on verified basis. There is already things about transsexuals rumors in the article.

Can you please make the effort to write an explanation, thanks. Anonymous.

In europe when an transsexual person had its operation , all the goverments changes that in their birth register.

therefore they will (must) always say e.g. amnda was born as a female even if it is not the truth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.219.219.71 (talk) 15:15, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

I know that many transsexual people in the United States have their old records of life in the wrong body permanently sealed to prevent access to the records. I would suppose that the same is often done in Europe as well. Andrea Parton (talk) 21:28, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot 16:41, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Ian Gibson and Romy Haag knew her when she still was a boy. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanda_Lear#Ger.C3.BCcht_um_Transsexualit.C3.A4t —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.188.67.150 (talk) 15:29, 17 February 2010 (UTC) I found a lot of Informations about her in books and Internet and these seem logic. Starting that she was born as male and had her sex change in the 60s in casablanca at Dr. Bourou s clinic, up to her very early showname In that time - Peki D'Oslo -. I've found that link: http://www.dianeetlesexedesanges.ch/3colset008/_page-peki-d-oslo.htm There a so many whitnesses from that time when Lear still was a boy. Many writers, Ian Gibson, Romy Haag, April Ashley... aso, aso, published so many facts and photos of Amanda and her past. April Ashley wrote in her book how and when she met Amanda. Ian Gibson wrote in hier book about Dali "The Shameful Life of Salvador Dali" that Amanda was a boy. He published pictures and wrote many details about her in that time. Very interessting is the book of April Ashley, in her book (April Ashley's Odyssey) she wrote many details about her too. Some are really astounding!! But makes sence. You can read it here: http://www.antijen.org/Aprilv1/ (scroll down a little bit to read about Amanda). Nevertheless, i like Amandas voice.

Gossip columnist?

An Amanda Lear is referred to in Ritz Newspaper as a gossip columniost. is the the same person? Fiddle Faddle (talk) 13:54, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Birthdate on IMDB

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0495166/bio

Her birthdate is listed as June 18th, 1939

Plastic surgery or no plastic surgery, she does not look that old and I don't believe she is that old either. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dexshurun (talk • contribs) 01:10, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

I shouldn't really waste my time with this, but if you think she's doesn't look that old, have a look at Joan Rivers, 5 years her senior. She also doesn't look 76. And if Amanda Lear was Dali's lover in the 60s, her age makes totally sense, unless you want her to have been his lover while she was 5 years old? Dollvalley (talk) 21:24, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Citations needed

I have removed from the Early career (1965–1974) section the following sentence uncited and unattributed since October 2007 - please reinsert with a cite to a reliable source:

The name Amanda Lear is also generally believed to be an alias, a drag queen name and a conjunction of the English words 'A man' and the last name of her mentor and father figure Salvador 'Dalì', while others believe it to be the French 'L'amant Dalì', the lover of Dalì.

-Wikianon (talk) 09:42, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

POV and not encyclopedical prose

I've just revised a bit the article, removing some unsourced POV where I found it, and also formatted some prose which was ugly or not properly written (quotes as "- ....; it seems the previous editor feared any typographical sign could be offended if he omitted it!!). Ciao e buon lavoro. --'''Attilios''' (talk) 18:17, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm surprised to find such a long article, but it is filled with boasted record sales and audience and ratings and anything else. It all reads like a fan site. Dollvalley (talk) 21:06, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Age

Strangely we currently seem to have her age at 2009. I'm guessing that's because we have two years in the infobox. What is the usual rule with an infobox when there are two possible years of birth? TheRetroGuy (talk) 22:28, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

True birth date was discovered!

At last we have his Birth Certificate: http://www.armonics2zero.it/index.php/gossip/essere-o-non-essere/

He was born male on 18 June 1939 in Saigon.