Talk:Abu Qatada al-Filistini

Expanding article

I have started to redo this piece and bring it up to a standard befitting such a champion of al-Qaeda and Londonistan. LDH 12:51, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Patience, folks. More coming.LDH 16:03, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Removed an unsourced, unverifiable, and apparently untrue, sentence

I removed this unsourced sentence:

• Abu Qatada is frequently cited – always with approval – in the 2004 al-Qaeda policy paper called Management of Savagery.

This looks like original research, since googling for 'Abu Qatada' 'Management of Savagery' comes up with nothing that says that he's mentioned in the paper. It also appears to be a lie, in that I downloaded a pdf copy of Management of Savagery (see the wiki page for links to it), converted it to text and tried grepping for 'Qatada' and 'Omar' and 'Mahmoud' and 'Othman' and found absolutely nothing. If this article is going to be a target for disinformation, I reckon that's a cue for me to come back to this article at a later date and ruthlessly excise anything that isn't properly sourced with page numbers and whatnot.--Aim Here 22:27, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

More unsourced stuff

I slapped a 'fact' tag on this passage, but I've a sneaking suspicion it might be false, in that I've only found a mere blog posting claiming that he was the editor while someone else issued a fatwa declaring the Algerian people to be 'kufr' [1]. Anyone got any reliable sources that back up the rather sensationalist wording of the article, or even the less exciting version in the blog?

• While free in the UK Abu Qatada was the editor-in-chief of GIA's Al-Ansar magazine, and contributed fatwas to that magazine authorizing the indiscriminate mass murder of random Algerians. (Mustafa Setmariam Nasar was an editor and contributor at the same time, when he too was in England with political refugee status.)

Aim Here 10:39, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Legal status

I am not happy with the recent addition of the Court of Appeal case on the potential deportation of Qatada; it looks much like a copy/paste job from the BBC website. Any objections to removal? Let me know Ben stephenson (talk) 21:31, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Palestinian

An IP has edited "...is a Palestinian Islamist militant".

There is actually a Wiki article Definitions of Palestinian and on the basis of that I suppose it's accurate from a strictly ethnic point of view. However I have misgivings given that a majority of UN nations accept that there is a State of Palestine and calling him Palestinian suggests he is a citizen of that state. But he is not, he is Jordanian and what is at issue presently is whether he can be safely deported to his native Jordan.

I also frankly suspect a "he's a Palestinean, so let's call him a Palestinian" agenda here. I don't know what Wikipedia crieria are, but common sense suggests that the tag is only really appropiate if Mr. Qatada identifies himself publicly as a Palestinian (and indeed whether his fellow Palestineans endorse that identification)and he has not. Opening paragraph guidance in that case is that ethnicity should not be mentioned. Moreover I can find no recent identifications of him in the media as Palestinean, indeed just the one CBS caption for a file photo dating from 2001.

I'm therefore reverting the edits and ask the IP to bring the issue here. 81.178.38.169 (talk) 19:18, 12 February 2012 (UTC)