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This is something that I found:
This is something that I found:
According to bridgetomoscow.com, the actual name of the city in Russian is "Moscva." The name of the city used to be "Moscov" when it was first found in 1147 and "Moscow" was used because 'Moscov" '''sound closer to the present-day English pronunciation'''.
According to bridgetomoscow.com, the actual name of the city in Russian is "Moscva." The name of the city used to be "Moscov" when it was first found in 1147 and "Moscow" was used because 'Moscov" '''sound closer to the present-day English pronunciation.'''


I think this is the key part right there.
I think this is the key part right here. Like I mentioned earlier, "hangeul" sounds closer to the present-day English pronunciation than "hangul." Thus, it's more appropriate to use "hangeul" than "hangul." You are right that the official Korean romanization rules give us "Han'gŭl" or "hangeul," and my suggestion is to follow these rules. Why can't we use "hangeul" as an English variant? Is it because "hangul" is more western friendly? I would really appreciate it if someone can provide me with a concrete reason/evidence that why we cannot use "hangeul" as an English variant like "hangul."

Like I mentioned earlier, "hangeul" sounds closer to the present-day English pronunciation than "hangul." Thus, it's more appropriate to use "hangeul" than "hangul." You are right that the official Korean romanization rules give us "Han'gŭl" or "hangeul," and my suggestion is to follow these rules. Why can't we use "hangeul" as an English variant? Is it because "hangul" is more western friendly? I would really appreciate it if someone can provide me with a concrete reason/evidence that why we cannot use "hangeul" as an English variant like "hangul."


Although I understand that romanizing any language can be very difficult one needs to acknowledge that Korean language has been proven to be one of the difficult languages for romanization compared to other Asian languages (Korean government used three different systems of romanization in the past). In 2000, the Korean government officially replaced this McCune–Reischauer system ("hangul") with Revised Romanization of Korean (hangeul), and I believe that it's respectful to follow their struggles for perfection of romanization not for just Koreans, but also for non-Koreans as well. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Maymklee|Maymklee]] ([[User talk:Maymklee|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Maymklee|contribs]]) 00:23, 29 February 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Although I understand that romanizing any language can be very difficult one needs to acknowledge that Korean language has been proven to be one of the difficult languages for romanization compared to other Asian languages (Korean government used three different systems of romanization in the past). In 2000, the Korean government officially replaced this McCune–Reischauer system ("hangul") with Revised Romanization of Korean (hangeul), and I believe that it's respectful to follow their struggles for perfection of romanization not for just Koreans, but also for non-Koreans as well. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Maymklee|Maymklee]] ([[User talk:Maymklee|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Maymklee|contribs]]) 00:23, 29 February 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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I noticed your coming work on that article and was wondering whether you would be interested in producing articles on the other township-level divisions (towns, townships, subdistricts, and more) in mainland China. If you wish to join, sign your name here. Thanks much—Xiaoyu: 聊天 (T) 贡献 (C) 03:42, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi XiaoYu, I've never edited a talk page before so hopefully this is the right way to do it and you'll receive a notification that I replied to your message. I'm currently based in Beijing. I'll tell you what I know and what I don't know about the towns I've been to.

What I know about them: 1) I know their English and Chinese names 2) I could place them on the map 3) I've seen their main landmarks 4) I took lots of photos 5) I know how you get there

What I don't know: 1) I don't have GPS readings for most of the places I've been to 2) I don't know how to get suitable references for anything that I say in the article.

I've read the guidelines and I'm still not sure whether what I know is actually enough to create these articles.

Azylber (talk) 06:53, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinates can be found when typing in the address of the place in a programme like Google Earth. Best use Chinese, though. —Xiaoyu: 聊天 (T) 贡献 (C) 15:21, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
ah ok so not having at least one reference is not a problem then? because i read the guidelines and it says you need at least one reference. i didn't know that rule wasn't strict. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Azylber (talkcontribs)
Use xzqh.org, the county-level government website (many give introductions to the towns, townships, etc.), or some other source. —Xiaoyu: 聊天 (T) 贡献 (C) 18:42, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ok cool thank you!

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You should consider getting this. It would help us new page patrollers out a lot :P "Pepper" @ 16:00, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Pepper, ok, I will request it. Thanks! Azylber (talk) 16:04, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'd be careful about using the coords from the sites you're using. I've been through a handful and some are way off. I've been replacing them with one's I've found using Google Maps. Quiché Airport, Neil Armstrong Airport, Gualaco Airport, Jurien Bay Airport. "Pepper" @ 19:02, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I see what you mean. But what should we do when various sources agree on the coords and google says they're all wrong? What is the standard way to find a final answer to the question? Azylber (talk) 19:06, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I'll bring something up at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geographical coordinates. We'll see what they think. "Pepper" @ 19:10, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
See this - one view on the subject saying Google/Bing is often more reliable than the publisher. "Pepper" @ 19:13, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
cool thanks Azylber (talk) 19:13, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
...discussion started here. "Pepper" @ 19:20, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Hangul

Hi,

Thank you for your recent comment on my revision! I appreciate how you provided "Moscow" as an example to support your argument.

This is something that I found: According to bridgetomoscow.com, the actual name of the city in Russian is "Moscva." The name of the city used to be "Moscov" when it was first found in 1147 and "Moscow" was used because 'Moscov" sound closer to the present-day English pronunciation.

I think this is the key part right there. 

Like I mentioned earlier, "hangeul" sounds closer to the present-day English pronunciation than "hangul." Thus, it's more appropriate to use "hangeul" than "hangul." You are right that the official Korean romanization rules give us "Han'gŭl" or "hangeul," and my suggestion is to follow these rules. Why can't we use "hangeul" as an English variant? Is it because "hangul" is more western friendly? I would really appreciate it if someone can provide me with a concrete reason/evidence that why we cannot use "hangeul" as an English variant like "hangul."

Although I understand that romanizing any language can be very difficult one needs to acknowledge that Korean language has been proven to be one of the difficult languages for romanization compared to other Asian languages (Korean government used three different systems of romanization in the past). In 2000, the Korean government officially replaced this McCune–Reischauer system ("hangul") with Revised Romanization of Korean (hangeul), and I believe that it's respectful to follow their struggles for perfection of romanization not for just Koreans, but also for non-Koreans as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maymklee (talkcontribs) 00:23, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]