Talk:Morgan Freeman

Morgan Freeman wears an ear ring on his right ear...and not his left...

I just noticed this while watching him do a documentary on TV. "Left is right right is wrong", so ummm.....is Morgan gay? At the very least this "ear ring thing" should be mentioned, shouldn't it? I dunno. VERITAS.68.59.4.188 (talk) 16:44, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Clarification

"Although he has said in interviews that he has never been cast opposite a love interest in any of his movies, Freeman has been married twice." <-- this line makes no sense. Although? If his marriages were contradictory to that statement, it would make sense to combine the sentence and add the although. Yet his marriages are NOT contradictory, thus this is a completely illogical sentence. I am changing it promptly, getting rid of the whole first part as it is not really worth anything (especially to open up a biography with). Illuminus

Is this article a stub?

I especially like the way his height gets top billing!

Hey im new to wikipedia and i have no idea how to create of edit stuff, so this is the best i could do to get someones attention, but i found an interesting article online in reference to Morgan, i will give you guys the link in hopes that you will update the page to reflect this new information.

http://www.cleartest.com/psotm/morgan-freeman/

i just found it online browsing, hope it helps, have a good day. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.235.121.143 (talk) 11:06, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Skin

Just out of sheer curiousity... are these spots powdermarks? --Nemissimo II 21:21, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Morgan Freeman rocks my socks :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.242.152.175 (talk) 21:08, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure what those spots are, except that they only add to his charm, but I'm curious too. My wife on the other hand thinks they are "beauty spots"; she also thinks he's the sexiest man alive (apart from me that is....well, maybe not. :-( --Phil Wardle (talk) 07:01, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Listerine

Is this really necessary in the article? I mean, it's true, but I'm sure Freeman has said lots of things in interviews that are not significant and maybe don't need to be included. The ad itself was obviously '60s or early '70s vintage, maybe he forgot... It just seems out of place, and a little "who cares"?

In an interview with Jay Leno on The Tonight Show on November 30th, 2006 Freeman admitted to being mistaken when first asked if he'd been in a In an interview with Jay Leno on The Tonight Show on November 30th, 2006 Freeman admitted to being mistaken when first asked if he'd been in a Listerine ad after the host showed a television commercial in which Freeman did in fact appear as a worker on a electric pole.

Jake b 08:22, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Where was he born?

I can find many articles that claim Freeman lives in Clarksdale, MS, but these articles, and all other sources seem to indicate he was born in Memphis. If someone has a link - please link this to something that shows his birthplace is in clarksdale. Snowberg 21:59, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Lives in Clarksdale born in Memphis according to most sources. Gdo01 00:25, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Picture?

Any pictures? Thanks,

WP:WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers priority assessment

Per debate and discussion re: assessment of the approximate 100 top priority articles of the project, this article has been included as a top priority article. Wildhartlivie (talk) 11:35, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Money

How much money is he worth! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.107.99.201 (talk) 20:34, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

table

can someone fix it please, no idea how to 68.93.32.232 (talk) 22:36, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

MSU Horse Park

Freeman donated a large sum of money to build the Mississippi Horse park in Starkville Mississippi. I put it in the article because, not only is it true and it has proof. I also know first hand because I live there. Quinlanfan2 (talk) 00:43, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Dead?

He was in a car accident and is still alive. However, the date of the accident is incorrect. He was in a crash today, 8/4/08..not yesterday. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.183.11.171 (talk) 02:50, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

I've heard no confirmation of his death anywhere, only that he's had a bad car accident. Can anyone confirm/deny that he has died at this stage? Perry (talk) 16:38, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

The News Reports right now state he is seriously injuried, not dead. Yet anyway, I just checked the news out now, nothing states otherwise. So who ever added that into this doesn't know what they are talking about.

I think the powers that be need to put this page under semi-protection to keep the person(s) trying to vandalize the page under control. LovesPolitics9 (talk) 16:45, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Per MSNBC, he was actually joking around with people taking cell phone pictures. Since dead men generally don't talk...I'm going with the reports of his death being premature. --Smashville^BONK! 17:05, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

If anyone could joke around after death, it'd be Freeman. Needless to say, though, he's not dead yet. Haberdasheryisnotacrime (talk) 18:12, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Yet??? Give the poor guy a chance...(Butters x (talk) 20:25, 4 August 2008 (UTC))

From what I've heard, he was only hurt in the right shoulder and arm. So, no, not dead. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.153.23.65 (talk) 20:40, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

First, He is not dead (Thank God), Secondly this is not a forum. --SkyWalker (talk) 15:17, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

• No media outlet EVER reported that he had died. Anyone posting that he is dead is a troll and a vandal. Michaelh2001 (talk) 17:49, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

appearance in "Baby Jane"

I recently saw, for the first time, the movie "What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?" I understand that Morgan Freeman played the young soda-stand clerk at the beach near the end of the movie. Perhaps this should be added to his filmography? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Unclemikejb (talk • contribs) 20:50, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

I haven't found anything definitive that it actually is him. --Smashville^BONK! 01:16, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Car accident section

I've moved the information about his auto accident into its own section for now, since its an ongoing event (he is hospitalized) Once he is released from hospital it can be merged with "personal life". Michaelh2001 (talk) 17:47, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

I think someone may have been playing around with this section. Good examples of non-factual (if humorous) content are listed below.

"The vehicle in which he was traveling, a 1939 Sherman Tank, left the highway and flipped over several times. Witnesses compared it to a stunt show." "Freeman could talk after the crash, demanding that the woman (The nurse) 'Make him a sandwich'." "Freeman was discharged from the hospital. [23] 2 days later he collapsed on his cheese and ham sandwich."

Cevius (talk) 14:05, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Greenwood High School

The article states that Morgan graduated from Greenwood High School in 1955. That's an error. I grew up in Greenwood and graduated from Greenwood High School in 1956. In the '50s Greenwood schools were segregated, so he couldn't have graduated from there. Black and white schools were separate. I don't remember the name of the black high school, but it wasn't Greenwood High.—Preceding unsigned comment added by DonBinMS (talk • contribs) 02:16, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Current event

Did I miss anything or shouldn't the current event tag be there? --09:35, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Hmm?.--SkyWalker (talk) 09:48, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Jennifer Nicole Freeman

The section on the actress Jennifer Nicole Freeman being the daughter of Morgan was removed because he is not her father. In this interview with Freeman, he says he has four children, Morgana and Deena (his wife's child whom he adopted), Morgana, his biological child with his wife and Alfonso and Saifoulaye from previous relationships. "I remember something my father would say to me when I was growing up,” says Morgana Freeman, 36, a beauty salon owner in Atlanta and one of the star’s four children."

"He had fathered two sons out of wedlock by different women before he married Jeannette Bradshaw in ’67 and adopted her daughter, Deena; the couple had a second daughter, Morgana, in ’71." http://www.aarpmagazine.org/entertainment/morgan_freeman_home_again.html 66.67.156.138 (talk) 03:49, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

National Enquirer story

A number of media outlets, including the National Enquirer (I know -- hardly the voice of sobriety) have charged that Freeman has been in a sexual relationship with his step-granddaughter, E'Dena Hines (age 27) for at least ten years. ( http://www.nationalenquirer.com/moragn_freeman_decadelong_affair_with_stepgranddaughter_edena_divorce/celebrity/66840 ) Normally, this sort of claim wouldn't carry much water, but it has been repeated by more credible sources, such as The Huffington Post. ( http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/19/the-morgan-freeman-edena-_n_217823.html ) Apparently, it is factual that Hines has often been escorted by Freeman to public events. Freeman's second ex-wife Myrna has repeated the claims of incest, and attributes the break-up of her marriage to the relationship between Freeman and Hines, who grew up in Freeman's home. Any more reliable info out there? Bricology (talk) 17:39, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Everyone is just quoting the Enquirer, who's only source is divorcing Freeman. So no reliable source for any of it. —MJBurrage^(T•C) 10:55, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

I concur, this should be left off the page until a reliable source can be found. --TeaDrinker (talk) 20:56, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

It's more than that - it's libellous and a complete violation of WP:BLP. Wildhartlivie (talk) 22:49, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

No blood relation = not incestuous. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.213.120.190 (talk) 06:38, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

In the same vein, no reliable sources = no inclusion. The Huffington Post is a step above the Enquirier, but a) it simply reports that the Enquirer made the claim and doesn't of itself verify it, and b) it's largely a gossip column and would struggle to meet the reliable sources requirements. I've also changed the header for this section to something a little blander - hope no one minds.

There seems a fair consensus here not to include the claim unless/until it gets more mainstream coverage, or can be better verified. Is that a reasonable assumption? If so I'd like to mark the thread closed, if not then any other views welcome. Euryalus (talk) 09:15, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes. There has now been a denial: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ENTERTAINMENT-Hollywood-News-Interviews-Freeman-not-to-marry-step-granddaughter/articleshow/4766695.cms Harry the Dog WOOF 17:28, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

(outdent) It's not consensus, it is publishing something that might be considered libellous and violates WP:BLP. The only things circulating out there stem from the National Enquirer and that is simply not permitted. Wildhartlivie (talk) 18:16, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Anyone else feel this conversation ought to be removed? Talk pages have to follow BLP just like the mainspace. faithless (^speak) 21:21, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Actually, yes I agree completely. It has gone far afield from asking "is this sourcce reliable?" Wildhartlivie (talk) 21:37, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

I partly agree, but I was considering this from BLP re talk pages: "New material should generally be discussed in order to arrive at a consensus concerning relevance, availability of sources, and reliability of sources." I don't believe this discussion is libellous of itself as we are not advancing the claim. If we put it in the article without relibale sources, or if we asserted here it was true in the absence of other evidence, then it would be a different story. Also, if this conversation is removed we will likely have it again in a day or two when someone else comes across the same article. Other views welcome of course, just my opinion. Euryalus (talk) 21:39, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

It's now also been mentioned in Salon (http://www.salon.com/mwt/broadsheet/feature/2009/07/10/morgan_freeman/index.html). Though this too only links to the Enquirer article, it mentions that the story has been seeping into more mainstream outlets. At this point, doesn't it at least warrant a mention that news outlets have been running this story? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.14.119.60 (talk) 11:11, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

No, it doesn't. The item on Salon only mentions the Enquirer story to repeat it and then alludes to mainstream coverage without actually showing where there is any. The item is hardly a straight news report, it's a snarky commentary that essentially consists of opinions, insinuations and no facts. It also does not note that Freeman's representative has denied the entire thing and called it garbage. It is not possible to know at this point where this rumor originated, or why, but it is worthwhile to point out that it comes out in the midst of what is increasingly appearing to be an acrimonious divorce. We cannot publish this unless it is reliably reported and confirmed without committing libel, violating WP:BLP and creating undue harm. We aren't the National Enquirer, we don't repeat gossip. Wildhartlivie (talk) 11:34, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Front page of MSN? (http://specials.msn.com/A-List/Morgan-Freeman.aspx?cp-searchtext=Morgan%20Freeman%20to%20marry%20step-granddaughter) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.14.119.60 (talk) 22:28, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Huffington Post is referencing it as well (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/10/edena-hines-morgan-freema_n_229070.html) National Enquirer is one thing, but MSN, Salon.com and HuffPo -- these aren't your trad scandal sheets and gossip-mongers, prone to libel. And Wildhartlivie's "It also does not note that Freeman's representative has denied the entire thing and called it garbage" -- is just laughable. Can anyone think of a single celebrity flack who has ever admitted anything unseemly that their employer has ever done?! It's their job to deny such things, whether they're true or not. Bricology (talk) 03:02, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

As an wikipedia _user_, I ask that you not remove it (or anything for that matter) from the talk page. I have no problem with maintaining high standards in sources etc on the main page, but in the talk page it is nice to have the logic and discussion behind such maintenance available for viewing... plus if you did track 4 on this album (http://yellowostrich.bandcamp.com/album/the-morgan-freeman-ep) would make no sense at all! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.118.199.8 (talk) 22:52, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

(outdent) The funny thing - what is laughable - is that over 3 months have passed and it's dead news - to everyone, apparently, except you. If there was any weight to this, it would still be news. It isn't. It's over and if it wasn't appropriate in July, it is even less so now. Dead issue. Wildhartlivie (talk) 03:11, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Un-credited Robot Chicken

Does anybody know for sure that he voiced "himself" in a parody of Batman and The Shawshank Redemption in an episode of Robot Chicken from the most recent season? Coffee5binky (talk) 00:30, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Left Hand

I saw Mr. Freeman on TV last night, and his left hand was much darker than his right, noticeable because of a very nice manicure. It was almost as if he were wearing a black glove on his left hand, but again, the manicure negated that idea. Could this be due to his car accident (nerve damage)? Or something else? Just curious. Waytoomuch trouble (talk) 20:24, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

It is a glove. He appeared on a TV chat show recently, still wearing it to cover the injury he received in his 2008 car accident. His hand is still paralyzed. http://www.nowpublic.com/culture/morgan-freeman-wears-glove-cover-left-hand-injury-2587279.html. Twistlethrop (talk) 00:06, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Deletion of children's names

A few days ago an edid deleted the names of his chidren from this article based on WP:BLPNAME. I can understand why the editor interpreted the policy that way, but I did some research with Google and those names have been publicised fairly widely. Theres currently a discussion on the BLP talk page about how the policy should be applied to the names of the children of very famous people, if those names have been widely publicised. Depending on the outcome of that debate we might want to consider restoring the names. Rusty Cashman (talk) 04:57, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

I saw that deletion and actually didn't feel it should be contested. His children are not notable on their own and that seems to fit the presumption of privacy comment in WP:BLPNAME: "There is a presumption against using the names of such individuals, even if the names have already appeared in the media, where:

• they are not in themselves sufficiently notable for a Wikipedia article; for instance, because:

o they are only named in third-party published sources because they are related to or associated with notable individuals; o they are only named in a few third-party published sources; o although they are widely named in third-party published sources, such sources only have trivial content on them (e.g., minor accidents, criminal offenses and public outbursts). Wildhartlivie (talk) 05:25, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Personal section

Is it fine as it is or does it seem that some chronologizing could be applied to there? It obviously isn't in chronological order as it is, and as a matter of fact is not in any visible order. Does anyone agree with me that it should be chronologized or should it remain approximately in its current state? Backtable _{Speak to me}^{concerning my deeds.} 03:08, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

The guy fucked his own grandaughter why is this not mentioned anywhere?

Edit request from 198.40.0.9, 10 June 2010

{{editsemiprotected}}

Please add that Morgan Freeman is the host/narrator of Science Channel's "Through the Wormhole". Ref: http://science.discovery.com/tv/through-the-wormhole/

198.40.0.9 (talk) 19:37, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

 Done Tim Pierce (talk) 20:46, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Pelham 123 (1974)

I have just rewatched The Taking of Pelham 123 (1974 version) and am convinced that an uncredited Morgan Freeman appears briefly in early scenes set in the Transit Authority HQ. However, I haven't been able to find confirmation anywhere. Can anybody confirm that it was he (or confirm that it was not)? gramorak 00:12, 15 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gramorak (talk • contribs)

Edit request from 65.87.18.194, 23 July 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} The following section of the page is vandalism -- it is entirely false, and put up as a prank by the younger brother of one of my college classmates several years ago. You'll note that it is unverifiable from any other source (except for other sites that source or scrape Wikipedia and use the exact same phrasing, and one article on Cracked.com). Please either remove, or atleast insert a "citation required"-style tag on it.

"In 1991, Freeman was offered a lead role in Jurassic Park. Unsure that dinosaurs could make for interesting co-stars, Freeman traveled to the American Museum of Natural History to see the "damn beasts". In a 2007 interview with Atlanta Radio Correspondent Veronica Waters, Freeman revealed that he was stunned when he learned that birds are descended from dinosaurs. While he turned down the role, Freeman spent the next summer reading books on ornithology. This would later lead to his desire to narrate the documentary March of the Penguins."

65.87.18.194 (talk) 23:54, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

 Done Dabomb87 (talk) 00:52, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Wow! This was added in March, 2008. I recall reading this sometime and overlooked it.Jay (talk) 01:18, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Freeman is an atheist.

2010 CNN interview [1] 67.243.7.245 (talk) 21:14, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

When told he has made a statement in the past that he is a "man of God" he implies that he never made such a statement, then when asked if he is a "man of God" he says no. When asked if he is a "man of faith" he implies that he agrees he is that, then proceeds to give his own definition of what he believes faith to be. Where in this answer does he state that he is an atheist, does not believe in God or does not practice, profess, or believe in any sort of religion? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.8.76.39 (talk) 19:09, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

1978 Drama Desk winner

according to Drama Desk here Jeffrey DeMunn (A Prayer for My Daughter) was the winner. --emerson7 20:10, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Newton0914, 13 September 2010

{{edit semi-protected}} Please remove the film "thick as thieves" as it has been listed twice unde the filmography table. Thanks.

Newton0914 (talk) 19:33, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Corrected, thanks for that Newton. Skomorokh 19:38, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

there is a "and" that does not have a statement after it. if someone can complete the thought or removed the "and". thank you

Freeman has a private pilot's license, which he earned at age 65,[35] and Filmography —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.1.98.2 (talk) 14:32, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Filmography: "more than advert"?

A television advert shouldn't be in the films section and I don't think the voice over is actually done by him but rather an impersonator called "more than freeman". Can anyone confirm whether it's done by him or not?.Stripy tie (talk) 21:04, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Nelson Mandela confused with Morgan Freeman in "Dinner for Schmucks"?

We saw the movie and couldn't help but notice that the schlemiel character mistook Nelson Mandela for Morgan Freeman... — Rickyrab | Talk 06:15, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Morgan cosmetologylow Freeman, Jr. ?

That's what it says his birth name was, right under his photo. I question the veracity of this information.

212.183.128.110 (talk) 23:12, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

That edit has since been corrected. Thank you for pointing that out. - SudoGhost (talk) 23:15, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

What about E'Dena?

Why is there no mention of Morgan Freeman's affair with his step-granddaughter E'Dena? It was all over the news. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.27.236.6 (talk) 19:01, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

"box office hits" in intro

How did you decide which films to list in the intro as important "box office hits" in which Freeman starred? Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves, for instance, grossed far more than The Bucket List, Evan Almighty or Red (2010 film), and that was back in 1991. Is this just presentism or is there a logic that I'm missing? - TheMightyQuill (talk) 13:30, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

True Grit:

I just watched the original True Grit movie made in 1969. The Court Clerk at the beginning of the movie sure looks and sounds like Morgan Freeman. In the movie, the judge asked the clerk for a mint, and the Clerk said "All Rise". He was not in the credits, nor was there any mention of who the Court Clerk was. I believe this was Morgan Freeman, and that it should be added to his list of movies as an uncredited bit part. Bjcowan (talk) 13:16, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Morgan Freeman marries his step grand daughter

How was this left out? I thought this was supposed to be factual information and not some fluff PR page. http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/sex/morgan-freeman-to-marry-his-step-granddaughter-486028 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.196.89.81 (talk) 15:39, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

he didn't marry her. but they had a 10 year relationship starting when she was 17 and he was married. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.237.58.241 (talk) 00:16, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 72.35.119.69, 25 September 2011

{{edit semi-protected}} please change x to y

Freeman joined President Bill Clinton, USA Bid Committee Chairman Sunil Gulati, and USMNT midfielder Landon Donovan on Wednesday, December 1, 2010 in Zurich for the USA bid committee's final presentation to FIFA for the 2022 FIFA World Cup.[39]

Freeman, in an interview to be aired on CNN Friday evening September 23, 2011, said that President Obama has made racism worse in America.[40]

[40]Chatting with Piers Morgan, the Oscar-winning actor also blames the Tea Party saying they're "going to do whatever [they] can to get this black man outta here” (video follows with transcript and commentary):

PIERS MORGAN, HOST: Has Obama helped the process of eradicating racism, or has it in a strange way made it worse.

MORGAN FREEMAN: Made it worse. Made it worse. Look at, look, the Tea Partiers, who are controlling the Republican Party, stated, and what’s this guy’s name, Mitch O’Connell. Is that his, O’Connell?

MORGAN: Yeah, Mitch McConnell, yeah.

FREEMAN: Mitch McConnell. Their stated policy, publicly stated, is to do whatever it takes to see to it that Obama only serves one term. What’s, what does that, what underlines that? “Screw the country. We’re going to whatever we do to get this black man, we can, we’re going to do whatever we can to get this black man outta here.”

MORGAN: But is that necessarily a racist thing?

FREEMAN: It is a racist thing.

MORGAN: Is it not Republicans, wouldn’t that say that about any Democrat president?

FREEMAN: No, they would have gotten rid of Bill Clinton if they could have.

MORGAN: They tried.

FREEMAN: They did try, but still. I don’t, they’re not going to get rid of Obama either. I think they’re shooting themselves in the head.

MORGAN: Does it unnerve you that the Tea Party are gaining such traction?

FREEMAN: Yes.

MORGAN: Why?

FREEMAN: Well, it just shows the weak, dark, underside of America. We’re supposed to be better than that. We really are. That’s, that’s why all those people were in tears when Obama was elected president. “Ah, look at what we are. Look at how, this is America.” You know? And then it just sort of started turning because these people surfaced like stirring up muddy water.

source: newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/09/23/morgan-freeman-obama-has-made-racism-worse-tea-party-will-do-whatever#ixzz1Z0eWs1cV

72.35.119.69 (talk) 23:38, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Blogs are not reliable sources, sorry.  Chzz  ►  04:15, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

CNN is not a blog: "Freeman, in an interview to be aired on CNN Friday evening September 23, 2011"

Edit request from , 12 November 2011

206.188.55.235 (talk) 21:54, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

 Done CTJF83 22:11, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Why is there no info on here about his relationship with his adopted daughter? Its been all over the news, and the relationship has been going on for over 10 years, making her underage at the start. They were even engaged, but I don't believe married yet. This is certainly a big part of his personal life to say the least, yet there is no mention here. Is it the policy of WP to leave out personal info that is controversial in nature? What gives? 24.5.69.164 (talk) 16:21, 5 April 2012 (UTC)