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Your DYK article Billfish

In your DYK article Billfish there is a problem. The first citation, which supports your hook, earns a 404. You might want to fix this. GroveGuy (talk) 16:58, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

I've replaced the link. --Epipelagic (talk) 19:19, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

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DYK for Billfish

The DYK project (nominate) 15:18, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you

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	Billfish and other ocean-related articles you've worked on are a pleasure to read. Thank you for improving this part of the encyclopedia. Steven Walling • talk 18:50, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

And thank you too Steven for your kindness --Epipelagic (talk) 07:39, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Mackerel

Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:02, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Hey

Saw your brief posts at Courcelles' (currently a mess) talk page, realized I knew you and decided to say hi. It was a pleasure meeting you last year at the meetup, and keep up the keeping-the-place-coherent. sonia (talk) 10:26, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Good to see you're still around Sonia.--Epipelagic (talk) 21:01, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Dear Epipelagic

Just a brief tip of the hat toward you: it's not often I see a comment that actually has some poetic imagery within it, but I stumbled across this of yours on (I think) some dog-forsaken admin/complaint post:

The light is seriously dimming now on Wikipedia, as continued attacks against the remaining core talents succeed. Neither Anthony nor Malleus deserve this absurd intervention, just because they interacted robustly. Soon we will just have block-obsessed admins strutting the empty halls, admiring the trim on their fingernails. --Epipelagic (talk) 06:08, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

I do think that this actually very good: '...strutting the empty halls, admiring the trim on their fingernails.' Anyway, it made my day. (And I've recently had a similar Kafka-esque experience with ill-founded code-flinging and ongoing accusations, etc...)

Regards, Rivercard (talk) 13:56, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
ps - also love the Douglas Adams 'puddle' quote.

Yep, the puddle that is Wikipedia seems to be drying up as well. --Epipelagic (talk) 21:01, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Help in identifying the fishes

Hello. I came to you because I noticed you are a member of Wikipedia:WikiProject Fishes and primarily edit fish-related articles. I have taken some photos of marine fishes near rivermouth in Digha, India. Here are the photos - Type 1 and Type 2. I cannot identify the fishes, but I need to know their names. Could you identify those fishes? --SupernovaExplosion ^Talk 01:07, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

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Sardines in popular culture - video games

I couldn't help but notice you failed to include a section I added in the article Sardine when you redirected the greater half of the article to Sardine (food). Is there any particular reason why you decided to include the popular culture reference, or was that just absent mindedness? (with no disrespect intended) Orpherebus (talk) 04:07, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Oh sorry. I agree it belongs more to the forked article. --Epipelagic (talk) 04:33, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

On second thoughts I've removed it, since sardines appear to be at most peripheral to the game, and not central. The article on the game doesn't even mention sardines or pilchards, or fish of any sort at all for that matter! --Epipelagic (talk) 04:46, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

They are not pivotal to the plot, but they are mentioned in numerous locations throughout the game! Since I’ve actually played the game and you’re going off an article that hasn’t even got the voice actors listed, you’re better off listening to me than reading that.

The point is, if we can mention Coca-Cola’s advertisements in Blade Runner, which just appear in fleeting scenes, why can’t we mention the obsession with sardines the main character has of Disgaea 4? He even mentions them in the skits prior to every chapter of the game. (www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXT3ZiSa3R4) For the sake of a preventing an edit war I won't revert your reversion of my reversion, but please do revert your reversion of my reversion of your reversion. Orpherebus (talk) 00:27, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Okay. Not my thing, but it does get a lot of Google hits. I've reinstated it. Please see if you can now cite your contribution with a reliable source. --Epipelagic (talk) 00:39, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for hearing me out. I'll see if I can find a source that backs up the contribution. Orpherebus (talk) 08:01, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

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Please see Talk:Okhotsk atka mackerel Shii (tock) 08:19, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

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Herring vs. Clupea interwiki

Hi, thanks for your comments on herring iw-links here, and apologies for the possible confusion. The removal of links was however not a wholesale reversion, but based on the consideration of the contents of the articles, just as you recommend - which I also tried to indicate in the edit summary. My conclusion was and is different however: the foreign language articles we are discussing are specifically about the taxa Clupea or Clupea harengus, and they should indeed be specifically linked to from the corresponding English taxonomical entries Clupea or Atlantic herring, with the corresponding taxoboxes, not from herring. Only the Nedersaksisch article does not have taxobox, but evidently represents the same series and exclusively deals with Clupea. iw-links should be unique and reciprocal: we should not link to the same article from both Clupea and Herring (see below).

More generally (1) It is rather peculiar to the English Wikipedia to have broad biological articles on a word/concept with an incoherent or vague taxonomic definition, such as herring, in parallel with the actual taxonomical (“encyclopedic”) articles; such "non-standard" definitions necessarily lead to problems with iw-links also. ["Salmon" and "trout" seem to make exceptions to this though; notably the corresponding foreign articles mostly do not have taxoboxes, or have taxoboxes that clearly indicate the systematic incoherence]. (2) iw-links in general should be unambiguous, as far as possible (i.e., reciprocal, unique). Only then bots can maintain them (now the reciprocal links to English Clupea/Herring are mostly misdirected after your re-definitions of the terms, and should all be manually corrected: logically that should have been your task?) Scientific taxonomy (as described in the taxoboxes) is the very method of unambiguous matching the meaning of these concepts over language barriers in the world of biology, and we should use it for that purpose here. Olaff (talk) 17:27, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Responded here --Epipelagic (talk) 05:09, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

deletion of content

I'm sorry, but I am only deleting information that people do not need to know, if you wish to keep sensitive information out there go ahead, just know that you are endangering U.S. personnel and defenses. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.200.43.132 (talk) 03:36, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

But this is already public information. If it still bothers you, then please discuss it further on the talk page of the article, not here. --Epipelagic (talk) 03:45, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

it is definitely not public information, you people are making it open...

Re: Vandalism warning to Jacksonriley0706 @ Cutthroat trout

Hi Epipelagic. I was looking through my watchlist when I spotted your warning left for Jacksonriley0706 about his edit on the Cutthroat trout article - a level 3 warning no less. Looking at his edit, I can clearly see that what this guy did was by no means vandalism, and was actually improving the article by adding an IUCN Vulnerability/Threat to Species chart, which indicated that the species is Vulnerable. Accordingly, and assuming good faith in that this may have been a mistake, I've reverted your edit back to Jacksonriley0706's, and will remove the warnings left on the user's page. Thank you. MarkBurberry32|talk 23:00, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

To the contrary, the IUCN have not assessed cutthroat trout as being vulnerable at all. In fact, their concerns about cutthroat trout are so minimal that they have not even bothered to assess the species at all. Prior to that edit, Jacksonriley had made a similar false entry concerning rainbow trout. It is clear that he was just making thing up, off the top of his head, and entering false information. At the very least, he did not exercise due diligence and research whether his additions were in fact true. Adding false information of that type to Wikipedia is a particularly obnoxious and damaging behaviour, which is why I raised the second warning to level 3, something I rarely do.

You should now examine your own behaviour. If you are going to reinstate incorrect information, without exercising due diligence, and then attack the editor who cleaned it up in the first place, then it raises issues about what you think you are actually doing here. To avoid being guilty of vandalism yourself you should now revert your reversions. You should remove the incorrect information you are now responsible for on the cutthroat trout article, and reinstate the vandalism template which you so rudely and peremptorily removed prior to consulting me. --Epipelagic (talk) 02:40, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Looking more closely at the cutthroat trout article, I can see how Jacksonriley might have made a good faith error, because several subspecies of this trout have been designated as "threatened" by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. However, this is not the same as his claim that the species as a whole has been classified as vulnerable by the IUCN. Still, because of this circumstance, instead of reinstalling the vandalism template on his page, you could just leave him a note drawing his attention to this confusion. --Epipelagic (talk) 04:53, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply. I assumed good faith, despite not appearing to do so, and I apologise if my message to you was inappropriate or considered by yourself as an attack - this was not my intention in any way at all, and I certainly apologise for removing your warning without prior consultation. I'm relatively new to Wikipedia, and would hate to tread where I shouldn't, despite picking up the wiki fairly fast. I would like to make this up to you by way of this apology, and accordingly have undone my edits to the Cutthroat trout article back to your version. I will leave the note you suggested at Jacksonriley0706's talk page, and would hope that my treading on your toes does not sour any future work I do here :) Regard, MarkBurberry32|talk 23:39, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

That's a handsome response, and I apologise too for being a bit tetchy:) --Epipelagic (talk) 01:35, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

sustainable Seafood

Thank you for your comments and assistance to my student who was working on the sustainable seafood page. It is final exam week and her project is over, but I have encouraged her to continue to clean up the article and find other sources to improve the article. I appreciate your thoughtful, welcoming comments to her. Would you like to grade some projects? ;) Waterbug42 (talk) 20:16, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm happy to help out with specific issues related to marine biology, but not with routine grading. --Epipelagic (talk) 21:43, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Dead links in article 'Fishing industry in New Zealand'

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A Barnstar For You

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		For your excellent improvements to Fish trap and Fishing net. Well done, my friend. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:03, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Well thank you Anna. Both articles benefited from some fine photographs taken by your good self. --Epipelagic (talk) 03:00, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Noodling Link Deletion

Yesterday, May 21st, 2012, I added a link on the noodling article for Jerry Rider's website since he was featured prominently in the article. I noticed you removed it for spam. Would it be more appropriate if I linked directly to his bio page on his website, so as to avoid the "spammy" elements? Or would it be more appropriate to create a separate article for him since he is a major figure in the practice? If that article was written, would it be appropriate to link to his website on that article? I'd appreciate any help you can give on this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.207.254.138 (talk) 16:01, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

A discussion about an article like this one on noodling belongs on the talk page of the article and not here. So I have transferred the discussion to Talk:Noodling, and replied there. Regards. --Epipelagic (talk) 11:05, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

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Nice Talk Page

I really like your talk page, Its really good, I like the them therefore I used it on my page, that would be highly appreciated if you would be kind enough to grant me a permission, it not then I will remove it from my talk page.--Faizanalivarya (talk) 04:53, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Sure, you're welcome :) --Epipelagic (talk) 04:55, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Exceptional Newcomer Award

Thank you for the Exceptional Newcomer Award.

I’ll see what I can do to bring some order to freshwater ecosystems and some related topics.

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DignitySun53 (talk) 13:15, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Okay. --Epipelagic (talk) 13:20, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Fish-related outlines

You have a reply at Talk:Outline of fishing. The Transhumanist 20:13, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:User TINC blue

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Template used at Pickled Herring

Thanks for your correction in deleting my 'bismarckhering' gaff; well said and well deleted.

Given your interests in coastal you may be interested in footnote 2 at Montague Island (Alaska).

All the best.

Benyoch ^{...Don't panic! Don't panic!...} (talk) 11:26, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks --Epipelagic (talk) 13:05, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

RE: FYI: Shrimp

Hey thanks for modifying the passage on shrimp for me, I'm not all that good with the wikipedia editing stuff. It's important as many lives are saved from damnation as possible. 24.225.23.137 (talk) 08:07, 3 June 2012 (UTC)