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Today's featured article for June 17, 2024

Icelandic horse performing the tölt

The Icelandic horse is a breed of horse developed in Iceland. Developed from ponies brought to Iceland by Norse settlers in the 9th and 10th centuries, the breed is mentioned in Icelandic literature and historical records. They are long-lived, hardy, and have few diseases in their country. In addition to the gaits typical of other horse breeds, many Icelandic horses can also do the tölt (pictured) and the flying pace. The only breed of horse in Iceland, sizable populations exist in Europe and North America. They are used for sheepherding work in Iceland, leisure, showing, and racing. Selective breeding and natural selection with the Icelandic climate developed them into their current form. In the 1780s, much of the breed was killed after a volcanic eruption at Laki. The first breed society for the Icelandic horse was created in Iceland in 1904; the breed is now represented by organizations in 19 nations, under the auspices of the International Federation of Icelandic Horse Associations. (Full article...)

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Picture of the day for June 17, 2024

Sugarloaf Mountain is a peak situated in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, on a peninsula at the mouth of Guanabara Bay. Rising 396 m (1,299 ft) above the harbor, the peak is named for its resemblance to the traditional shape of concentrated refined sugarloaf. The mountain is one of several monolithic granite and quartz mountains that rise straight from the water's edge in the area, and is geologically part of a family of steep-sided rock outcroppings known as bornhardts. Sugarloaf Mountain also features the Sugarloaf Cable Car and is popular with tourists for its panoramic views of the city and beyond. This photograph shows Sugarloaf Mountain at sunrise viewed from Tijuca National Park, with the Rio neighborhood of Botafogo in the foreground.

Photograph credit: Donatas Dabravolskas

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1579 - Sir Francis Drake claims California for England
1775 - American Revolutionary War: The Battle of Bunker Hill is fought
1776 - American invasion of Quebec ends
1885 - The Statue of Liberty arrives in New York Harbor
1972 - Watergate scandal: Five White House operatives are arrested for burglarizing the offices of the Democratic National Committee
1976 - China tests its first hydrogen bomb

The NIght Attack

Please change the name of Vlad III the Impaler to Vlad III Dracula, as it is mentioned in the Night Attack, the article which is featured On this Day. It is a matter of consistency and nothing else. It is not good to have Vlad III Impaler on the main page and Vlad III Dracula in the article. --Thus Spake Anittas 22:01, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I don't think it should say that he attacked an Ottoman Empire camp, but an Ottoman camp. Otherwise, everything else is fine. --Thus Spake Anittas 22:05, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

2012 notes

Omitted: New Albion; Battle of Bunker Hill; Population Registration Act
Included: The Night Attack (4th appearance, last in 2009; rescued from Ineligible); Battle of Vienna, Virginia (first appearance); Hyatt Regency walkway collapse (first appearance)
Repeats: Origins and architecture of the Taj Mahal (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total); Joint Communique (3rd consecutive appearance, 3 total)

—howcheng {chat} 05:26, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hyatt Regency Walkway Collpase

I would like to know the name of the mornoic editor who put the Hyatt Regency Walkway Collapse in Kansas City, Mo. on the JUNE 17 page. It is lised as JULY 17, 1981 on the main article for the incident, the 1981 timeline page AND the July 17 timeline page. Yet smoehow some genius with an IQ hovering around mentally retarded thought it was on June 17, too. When will this be REMOVED? It has now been up here for nearly a full HOUR. I will continue to post about this until it is removed. So get the job done or else. MORONS. IDIOTS. FOOLS. DUMBFUCKS. DavidSteinle (talk) 00:57, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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 *Repeats: [[Origins and architecture of the Taj Mahal]] (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total); [[Joint Communique]] (3rd consecutive appearance, 3 total)
 <span style="font-family:Verdana; ">—'''[[User:Howcheng|<span style="color:#33C;">howcheng</span>]]'''  <small>{[[User talk:Howcheng|chat]]}</small></span> 05:26, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
+== Hyatt Regency Walkway Collpase ==
+I would like to know the name of the mornoic editor who put the Hyatt Regency Walkway Collapse in Kansas City, Mo. on the JUNE 17 page. It is lised as JULY 17, 1981 on the main article for the incident, the 1981 timeline page AND the July 17 timeline page. Yet smoehow some genius with an IQ hovering around mentally retarded thought it was on June 17, too. When will this be REMOVED? It has now been up here for nearly a full HOUR. I will continue to post about this until it is removed. So get the job done or else. MORONS. IDIOTS. FOOLS. DUMBFUCKS. [[User:DavidSteinle|DavidSteinle]] ([[User talk:DavidSteinle|talk]]) 00:57, 17 June 2012 (UTC)