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Lines have since been added. Here are three sources [http://www.arrivatrainswales.co.uk/RouteMap/ Arriva Trains Wales], [http://www.projectmapping.co.uk/Reviews/valley_lines_south_wales.html Project Mapping] and [https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:x1NBmvp7F-wJ:www.nationalrail.co.uk/managed/promotions/pr74d6511aca42fd8c6e17e4e3e78f8a/areaMap/Valley_Lines.pdf+%22valley+lines+map%22&hl=en&gl=uk&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESg9CP9xmhPu3D6dHHcHpgKrK8C2lCZwaLV4PjhKSJu8xpzeGNE2rve7U7GXOqcHmlLJQSWn7Zjdm89rB7AensvRU3rZw-4r6OvinrsY6JkyrvQQlqKxQ11RCOJm-39b4-CRZfjB&sig=AHIEtbSDodmD9dgOoN7mLAwjxvobetwznA National Rail]. [[User:Simply south|Simply]][[User talk:Simply south| south]]....[[User:Simply south/Poem|..]] ''wearing fish for just 6 years'' 18:55, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
Lines have since been added. Here are three sources [http://www.arrivatrainswales.co.uk/RouteMap/ Arriva Trains Wales], [http://www.projectmapping.co.uk/Reviews/valley_lines_south_wales.html Project Mapping] and [https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:x1NBmvp7F-wJ:www.nationalrail.co.uk/managed/promotions/pr74d6511aca42fd8c6e17e4e3e78f8a/areaMap/Valley_Lines.pdf+%22valley+lines+map%22&hl=en&gl=uk&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESg9CP9xmhPu3D6dHHcHpgKrK8C2lCZwaLV4PjhKSJu8xpzeGNE2rve7U7GXOqcHmlLJQSWn7Zjdm89rB7AensvRU3rZw-4r6OvinrsY6JkyrvQQlqKxQ11RCOJm-39b4-CRZfjB&sig=AHIEtbSDodmD9dgOoN7mLAwjxvobetwznA National Rail]. [[User:Simply south|Simply]][[User talk:Simply south| south]]....[[User:Simply south/Poem|..]] ''wearing fish for just 6 years'' 18:55, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
:I was going by the lower of the two maps at [http://www.arrivatrainswales.co.uk/RouteMap/ Arriva Trains Wales] ([//www.arrivatrainswales.co.uk/WorkArea/DownloadAsset.aspx?id=3292 PDF download]; [//www.arrivatrainswales.co.uk/assets/0/77/78/136/9bfd6588-e0fd-477d-abbb-4c97595339cd.jpg lo-res JPEG]). That shows the Maesteg and Cheltenham routes as a brown line {{colorbox|#{{CV colour|Maesteg}}}} and the Ebbw Vale route as a dark blue line {{colorbox|#{{CV colour|Ebbw Vale}}}}; both of these are as broad as the routes to e.g. Rhymney {{colorbox|#{{CV colour|Rhymney}}}} or Merthyr {{colorbox|#{{CV colour|Merthyr}}}}. Compare them to the routes to Port Talbot, Neath and Swansea; and to The North, Bristol and London which are shown as a thinner grey line {{colorbox|#{{CV colour}}}}. The PDF download shows "Valleys & Cardiff Local Routes" at the top. Both this title and the line style suggest to me that Arriva Wales consider both the Ebbw Vale and Maesteg-Cheltenham services as part of the group which includes the Valleys routes. The PDF map is current: not only is it on the present website, but it states at the very bottom "Display until 31 December 2013"; and in the legend box is the date code "ATW v13 01.12" - Arriva Trains Wales, version 13, January 2012. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 20:06, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
:I was going by the lower of the two maps at [http://www.arrivatrainswales.co.uk/RouteMap/ Arriva Trains Wales] ([//www.arrivatrainswales.co.uk/WorkArea/DownloadAsset.aspx?id=3292 PDF download]; [//www.arrivatrainswales.co.uk/assets/0/77/78/136/9bfd6588-e0fd-477d-abbb-4c97595339cd.jpg lo-res JPEG]). That shows the Maesteg and Cheltenham routes as a brown line {{colorbox|#{{CV colour|Maesteg}}}} and the Ebbw Vale route as a dark blue line {{colorbox|#{{CV colour|Ebbw Vale}}}}; both of these are as broad as the routes to e.g. Rhymney {{colorbox|#{{CV colour|Rhymney}}}} or Merthyr {{colorbox|#{{CV colour|Merthyr}}}}. Compare them to the routes to Port Talbot, Neath and Swansea; and to The North, Bristol and London which are shown as a thinner grey line {{colorbox|#{{CV colour}}}}. The PDF download shows "Valleys & Cardiff Local Routes" at the top. Both this title and the line style suggest to me that Arriva Wales consider both the Ebbw Vale and Maesteg-Cheltenham services as part of the group which includes the Valleys routes. The PDF map is current: not only is it on the present website, but it states at the very bottom "Display until 31 December 2013"; and in the legend box is the date code "ATW v13 01.12" - Arriva Trains Wales, version 13, January 2012. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 20:06, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
::I agree. I don't see why the Ebbw Valley line should be exempt. It's not a national service, it's a regional one and should be treated as such. The editor who reverted has a history of making similar edits, attempting to distance the Ebbw Valley Line from Cardiff's rail network. [[User talk:Welshleprechaun|<b><font color="#FF0000">Welsh</font><font color="#008000">leprechaun</font></b>]] 20:03, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

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Can someone please insert the Valley Lines in? So that the template similar to, for example,

or

Simply south 21:31, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

'Valleys' stations

I'm not sure if Caldicot, Chepstow and the like can be described as "valleys stations". I suggest a reorganisation to reflect Network Rail's definition of the different routes - South Wales Valleys (Route 13), South & Central Wales and Borders (14) and Great Western (15).[1][2] Pondle (talk) 21:50, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New colours

The latest version of the official map has assigned a dark blue to Ebbw Vale. The other colours have been tweaked, some are duplicated because they appear that way on the map itself. 81.110.104.91 (talk) 17:27, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources for Valley Lines

Lines have since been added. Here are three sources Arriva Trains Wales, Project Mapping and National Rail. Simply south...... wearing fish for just 6 years 18:55, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I was going by the lower of the two maps at Arriva Trains Wales (PDF download; lo-res JPEG). That shows the Maesteg and Cheltenham routes as a brown line   and the Ebbw Vale route as a dark blue line  ; both of these are as broad as the routes to e.g. Rhymney   or Merthyr  . Compare them to the routes to Port Talbot, Neath and Swansea; and to The North, Bristol and London which are shown as a thinner grey line  . The PDF download shows "Valleys & Cardiff Local Routes" at the top. Both this title and the line style suggest to me that Arriva Wales consider both the Ebbw Vale and Maesteg-Cheltenham services as part of the group which includes the Valleys routes. The PDF map is current: not only is it on the present website, but it states at the very bottom "Display until 31 December 2013"; and in the legend box is the date code "ATW v13 01.12" - Arriva Trains Wales, version 13, January 2012. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:06, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. I don't see why the Ebbw Valley line should be exempt. It's not a national service, it's a regional one and should be treated as such. The editor who reverted has a history of making similar edits, attempting to distance the Ebbw Valley Line from Cardiff's rail network. Welshleprechaun 20:03, 12 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]