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The spark accelerator i invented is not made for anything else but a connector which doesnt blow up. It wont work on standard scooters, because they lack the correct connectors. My connecters have wats called a condensed material, basically its taped in the center but has small openings for the sparks to fly. The fact is connecters in electric vehicles create a type of explosion when too much voltage goes through the wires. The spark accerelator, will melt your standard connector. However, a connector with a protector that doesnt touch the plastic is the best solution. This is done by simply using aluminum foil and tape around the copper connector, then leaving the joints open, after that you put a plastic that doesnt touch the wire(those cord wrap protectors found on bikes) to protect it from explosion. Taping standard rubber over the battery and using rubberbands for insulation is also a smart move. Between the batteries i use the thinest wire possible, but connecting it to the controller requires thick wires. This conserves battery life and is ideal for going up to 12 miles in a standard 36 volt kids scooter. Another important factor is the wheel and chain, i use a thf chain on a 1000 watt motor for motorcycles. I had to use double bolts and spec barrings so the powerful motor wouldnt pull the wheel. The wheel itself is too small, these advantages will make a tiny kids vehicle with weight limitations into a cargo carrying beast, just the other day i hauled a monitor and pc without battery drain, and once i road 22miles total with the help of a half hour charging location on a standard 36 volt battery charger). In 20 degree weather it does up to 6-12 miles total depending if the weather is dry or not. This was all done via a hybrid kids scooter you get from the market e-scooters and such. The protectors are on all the positive wires. Jus' the other day i forgot to put one on so it went off. However, the spark accelerator is just a button that is pressed to gain full speed in less than half a second. Its good for uphills and stuff. Its made for my electro-magnetic vehicle i call the electro-magnetic scooter. I installed iridium magnets to the controller, and motor. Doesnt work well in cold weather, works but isnt temp controlled. Also due to me not actually owning expensive factory equipment such as a welder, (and soldered wires being too weak) are usually just thin 1980 antenna wires that don't melt (thick plastic insulation) and are harnessed via clamps and tight copper connecters to the battery life. It just blocks the sparks basically. It can work temp controlled but thats not my field. The disadvantages are that it goes 22 miles top speed, however an engineer could easily get a temp controlled controller (such as a golfcart controller) with a 48 volt or a stronger battery, magnetism just retains the charge and lifespan.<span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.100.60.164|76.100.60.164]] ([[User talk:76.100.60.164|talk]]) 12:05, 2 February 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
The spark accelerator i invented is not made for anything else but a connector which doesnt blow up. It wont work on standard scooters, because they lack the correct connectors. My connecters have wats called a condensed material, basically its taped in the center but has small openings for the sparks to fly. The fact is connecters in electric vehicles create a type of explosion when too much voltage goes through the wires. The spark accerelator, will melt your standard connector. However, a connector with a protector that doesnt touch the plastic is the best solution. This is done by simply using aluminum foil and tape around the copper connector, then leaving the joints open, after that you put a plastic that doesnt touch the wire(those cord wrap protectors found on bikes) to protect it from explosion. Taping standard rubber over the battery and using rubberbands for insulation is also a smart move. Between the batteries i use the thinest wire possible, but connecting it to the controller requires thick wires. This conserves battery life and is ideal for going up to 12 miles in a standard 36 volt kids scooter. Another important factor is the wheel and chain, i use a thf chain on a 1000 watt motor for motorcycles. I had to use double bolts and spec barrings so the powerful motor wouldnt pull the wheel. The wheel itself is too small, these advantages will make a tiny kids vehicle with weight limitations into a cargo carrying beast, just the other day i hauled a monitor and pc without battery drain, and once i road 22miles total with the help of a half hour charging location on a standard 36 volt battery charger). In 20 degree weather it does up to 6-12 miles total depending if the weather is dry or not. This was all done via a hybrid kids scooter you get from the market e-scooters and such. The protectors are on all the positive wires. Jus' the other day i forgot to put one on so it went off. However, the spark accelerator is just a button that is pressed to gain full speed in less than half a second. Its good for uphills and stuff. Its made for my electro-magnetic vehicle i call the electro-magnetic scooter. The joints are important, that's the wire you need to insulate, not the connecter themselves. The connections have to breath or burns will be created. I installed iridium magnets to the controller, and motor. Doesnt work well in cold weather, works but isnt temp controlled. Also due to me not actually owning expensive factory equipment such as a welder, (and soldered wires being too weak) are usually just thin 1980 antenna wires that don't melt (thick plastic insulation) and are harnessed via clamps and tight copper connecters to the battery life. It just blocks the sparks basically. It can work temp controlled but thats not my field. The disadvantages are that it goes 22 miles top speed, however an engineer could easily get a temp controlled controller (such as a golfcart controller) with a 48 volt or a stronger battery, magnetism just retains the charge and lifespan.<span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.100.60.164|76.100.60.164]] ([[User talk:76.100.60.164|talk]]) 12:05, 2 February 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Electro-magentic mopeds is an interesting concept, however, to add information about this to this article, reliable sources are needed. [[User:Subtropical-man|Subtropical-man]] ([[User talk:Subtropical-man|talk]]) 23:57, 2 February 2013 (UTC) |
:Electro-magentic mopeds is an interesting concept, however, to add information about this to this article, reliable sources are needed. [[User:Subtropical-man|Subtropical-man]] ([[User talk:Subtropical-man|talk]]) 23:57, 2 February 2013 (UTC) |
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Discussion
A request for mediation was filed... and it appears that the discussion is happening on the main mediation page. --CyclePat 18:46, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
I see that this page includes a link to the word 'Kinetic' which is not a related link to the moped manufacturer intended.
- Corrected this - now links to scooter company
"An additional Compulsory Basic Training certificate is also required to ride a moped on public roads, except for anyone who obtained their full car driving licence or motorcycle licence before 1 February 2001."
AIUI, this is not true. No reference atm but I will find one in due course, unless someone else beats me ofc! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.32.32.105 (talk) 19:45, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
- read it and weep - under "when to complete a CBT": [[23]] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.63.174.10 (talk) 11:12, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Popular brands
I removed the list of popular moped brands from the article, and instead created Category:Moped manufactuers which seems like a better place to drop a list of manufactuers. )]]
If you create any of these, make sure to add the category to your article so we've got a full list.
--Charleschuck 15:40, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Verifying definitions
While trying to verify some of the definitions of mopeds on the site, I moved/deleted the following:
- I moved some of the definitions of cyclemotors from here to electric bicycle. The US DOT doesn't really define a cyclemotor, but does indeed define an electric bicycle in TEA-21, so that seemed like a better place for the definition.
- I removed the definition of a moped for the state of Hawaii. Apparently, each county there has their own driver's licensing bureau, and I wasn't able to find any central definition of a moped. I'm still looking for a reference; if I find one, I'll restore the info.
- I restored the link to horsepower, which someone had merely changed to simply power. I think horsepower is a better technical explaination of what some localities limit on mopeds.
- Horsepower is simply a unit of engine power output. A lot of countries use kW as the base unit of engine power instead, "HP" would mean little or nothing to them. You could then make the same argument for the friendly term "wattage" (or kilowattage?). 193.63.174.10 (talk) 11:13, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
- Added link to Category:Moped manufacturers to replace the list that used to be there.
I hope that'll clean things up nicely.
--Charleschuck 17:18, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Power-assisted bicycles
Recently, the following section was added under power-assisted bicycles:
Every juristiction may have it's own regulations governing the use of a "power-assited bicycle". For example, within the provinces of Quebec and British Colombia, the "power-assisted bicycle" category is often classified together with normal pedal bicycles, and does not require registration, plating and automobile insurance. (Provided they meet the restrictive conditions defined within the Canadian "Motor Vehicle Safety Regulations") However some juristiction have not changed their laws and still consider this vehicle as a "Motor Assisted Bicycle" or a MOPED (ie.: In Ontario, "power-assisted bicycles" require a Moped registration, plating and automobile insurance.)
I've removed it for two reasons:
- This section claims that power-assisted bicycles can be licensed as a moped in Ontario. The Ontario Ministry of Transportation seems to claim otherwise (see http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dandv/vehicle/emerging/index.html#power) They say "Power-assisted/electric bicycles may fall within the HTA definition of a 'motor assisted bicycle', but they do not meet safety standards (e.g., brakes, lights, etc.) for on-road use."
- I think in-depth analysis of the regulations regarding power-assisted bicycles/electric bicycles are probably better suited to the electric bicycle article.
I'm also thinking of moving the section on power-assisted bicycles under the section on local regulations; I think they're worth mentioning in the moped article, as there is some crossover and confusion in some jurisdictions, but as there's another, more specific article on the subject, which is where the bulk of the information should likely be.
- Please se the discussion @ motorized bicycle. I have added a blurb on the subject of plating, registration, etc... Essentially, it is possible to register, plate, and insure a PAB as a MOPED. I even put some basic instructions on how to do so in the discussion. Sorry, I am not going to photocopy my green slip and put it on the wiki (that would be original research, right?) All you have to do is check with your local registration bureau in Ontario (as per the procedures I indicated on the motorized bicycles discusion page). It is a common know fact that everyone can register their car at the bureau. (This is a difficult thing to source/work cited). You will either have to have faith or do it yourself. (spending close to 1 and 1/2 years of research and over 600$.) On how do so... I will be happy to explain through email to anyone who wishes to do the same as I. Also, I might send you a copy of the check I received (tax refund), various blacked out sections of my registration (green slip), etc.. I also got back all my taxes (and more) on the vehicle because it met the definition of a hybrid (fuel efficient) vehicle. BUT, I guess none of this counts because it might be considered ORIGINAL research, right? (*sarcastically)--CyclePat 22:35, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
- I trust you on this one—you obviously have some history doing this. I removed it since the Ministry of Transport's info flat out contradicted what you said, and since I thought this was better suited to the electric bicycle article. I did, however, defer to your judgement in saying that Some jurisdictions, however, may categorize these [power assisted bicycles] as a type of moped, creating a certain amount of confusion.
- So many local peculiarities... --Charleschuck 06:23, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
I also move to suggest this article (Moped) be merged with (motorized bicycles)
roflmao —Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.81.76.50 (talk) 11:52, 9 October 2008 (UTC) Since Moped is a sub-category of motorized bicycle... I suggest that this aricle be merged with motorized bicycle. Any critical comments?--CyclePat 22:35, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
- Please see my objection at Talk:Motorized_bicycle/Archive2#Second_merger_sugestion. --Charleschuck 06:16, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
- There being no apparent support for the suggestion after one month, I'm removing the tag. - Just zis Guy, you know? [T]/[C] (W) AfD? 13:57, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
Moped Insurance
Sugestion of incorperating: moped insurance section. see http://moped2.org/moped-insurance.htm --CyclePat 01:13, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
What regions ?
It is mentioned that some regions require pedals.... what regions don't require pedals? I know Ontario requires pedals for being a moped otherwise you're a scooter. Can someone explain to me, eitherwise I migth do some hasty editing? --CyclePat 08:35, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
- Michigan, for example, doesn't require pedals. I believe Indiana is the same, although I haven't checked documentation at their DMV. Some moped aficionados affectionally (or derogatorily) refer to these pedal-less 50cc bikes as nopeds. Examples (off the top of my head) include the Yamaha QT 50, a few Honda models, and a lot of present-day Tomos mopeds which can be shipped with or without pedals. See the picture of the Russian moped, too, which fits the legal definition of a moped in Russia without having pedals. This page at moped2.org is a great reference for state-by-state moped laws in the US (with a few Canadian provincial laws, too) --Charleschuck 17:33, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
- Thank you. --CyclePat 04:07, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
Timeline
As you may know, a timeline was created for motorized bicycles. As the development of these is hard to separate form that of mopeds, and to a lesser extent motor scooters and possibly motorcycles, it has been proposed that the timeline be expanded in the first instance to cover mopeds under a new title, possibly "timeline of light motorcycle development" or some such.
Please join the debate at Talk:Timeline of Motorized bicycle history#Inclusion of Mopeds.
United States moped laws
A section was recently added which tried to cover US moped laws briefly, however, it had several inaccuracies. I've removed part of the section, placed below, with my comments indicated
- In most states, the above regulations are very loosely enforced - in particular, the top speed is often overlooked; as a result, there are many vehicles capable of going 40 mph or more that are registered as mopeds. While police may issue a citation to a moped driver going over the legal top speed, this is very rare. However, a few states, such as California and New York (where mopeds are the most common), enforce these laws very strictly.
- I removed this since I think people realize that they can skirt the law at their own peril. I think it generalizes the risk involved, while not citing any specific examples.
- In all states, some kind of driver's license is required to operate a moped, though factors such as minimum age, minimum license class, and vehicle requirements such as title, insurance, and license plates vary widely.
- Not all states require licenses [24].
Maybe some of this could be re-added after some fact-checking? --Charleschuck 15:27, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
The info regarding NC moped laws is not correct. see http://www.ncdot.gov/dmv/vehicle_services/registrationtitling/vehiclesNeedToRegister.html --Autonerd01 (talk) 08:56, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
- So fix it - WP:BOLD --Biker Biker (talk) 10:15, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
-I myself have qualms about these laws. For instance Why is a moped designated as under 50cc and a scooter not? The officer told me my moped was a toy because it was electric. But doesn't it have a motor in it? eg scooters have what you call no pedals or platforms for feet. I am confused, i think scooters are travel bikes or luxury comfort designed bikes and mopeds are not, therefore mopeds are the same as scooters in traffic laws. There should really be a designated term for what I can ride on the road.--Murriemir (talk) 20:44, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
Earlier today Moped was moved to Versatile autocycle. I don't really think that was an appropriate move. Never before have I heard of such a term being used (try googling for it -- nothing), but, while mopeds and autocycles are more or less the same thing, moped also applies to a specific legal term as well as the vehicle.
As such, I've reverted the edit. Please talk here if you think the article really should be moved, or split into various articles, etc. --Charleschuck 21:59, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
Moped safety
This section, if moped road-safety concerns resemble those of cyclists, is inaccurate. You are not safer keeping to the right under all circumstances or indiscriminately using cycle-lanes on a bicycle, so I think it's unlikely that it's true for a moped. See Vehicular Cycling for a discussion on the importance of road positioning.213.131.238.25Dermot
In fact, looking at the linked Moped Army article on safety (http://www.mopedarmy.com/resources/articles/survivalguide/), there is no mention of giving way at every junction or of using cycle facilities. This section should be re-written. I'm not a moped-user, so I'm not the person to do it.194.165.175.30Dermot
I think the safety bit should be removed, I find it biased, inaccurate, and irrelevant. I don't see complimentary sections on other vehicle pages, either in how safe they are for their occupants or for others unfortunate to be involved in an accident with such a vehicle. dcb. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.181.109 (talk) 04:22, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
- There should be citations for any claims of safety or unsafe practices. I'm tagging the section. — Brianhe (talk) 22:07, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
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moped search page has been vandalised
I noticed the article has been vadalised and currently 27-02-07 reads as below:
Mopeds owners are a class of generally sub-human monkey like colonies of cellular matter . Moped owner classification is designed to allow the use of small motorised brains, avoiding the safety restrictions and licensing charges required of larger primates. Some moped owners fit the definition of sentient- but rarely. In legal literature, moped owners are normally defined by limits on forehead displacement, ability to consume huge amount of crack cocaine , methane output, , or the requirement of off buttons. In some countries, the legal slaughter age for a moped owner is lower than for larger monkeys, and consequently moped owners are popular among the slaving nations. Typically, moped owners are restricted to methadone and cheeseburgers. Some localities require chains, thus making them a form of hybrid , using both human power and machine power. Because of their small size, many jurisdictions consider them "limited intelligence". The owners must be at least 14 years of age to operate the vehicle.
Some moped owners have been designed with more than two brain cells, similar to a multi- cellular plant —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.143.210.114 (talk) 02:37, 27 February 2007 (UTC).
Limited speed motorcycle
I found
- Because of their small size, many jurisdictions consider them "limited speed motorcycle."
and left
- Many{{vague}} jurisdictions classify them as "limited-speed" motorcycles.
because
- no logical connection between size and speed was stated
- quoting the 3 words as a quotation logically implies we think the phrase is of interest, whereas (unless otherwise explained) it would seem to suggest that the structure of the phrase is (in contrast to, say, "class three foofraws", which, in that "l-s mc" presumably is not an arbitrary concatenation of words, and they are in some sense treated more like motorcycles than like other categories of motor vehicle, and how they differ from motorcycles (the limitation on their speed) becomes of interest.
(And then i reworded further, but the above reasoning still applies.)
--Jerzy•t 06:29, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
Wiring systems
My electro-magentic moped has magnetically charged motor. I use thin television att wire from the 70s so the signal is strong inbetween the batteries. I notice these things don't get a good signal if the lock connector and battery is weak or if you don't use solder. If you just use connectors without the clip, the signal will be weak. The trick is to use heavy insulated tv cable wire (rare) that acts like a metal cable or cord. The problem with using thick wire, or even different variations between the battery is the signal. It needs to contact without messing the battery up. It cant vibrate basically. So, instead of solder use thin television cable wire, the kind that bends and doesnt melt. The problem with thick wires are that the vibration melts, and breaks off soemtimes. Thick is not better either, it may drain your bats faster. The future is here, via slim connections or connectors with no solders. I wish i had a four chamber battery though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asfd777 (talk • contribs) 10:34, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
Error in article: Etymology
On 30 April 2006 the user "67.176.182.31" removed: "However, it is also likely that the term is merely an abbreviated combination of the two key elements of a moped—a motor and pedals." and left the "motorvelociped" origin. This is wrong. The word do come from the Swedish words "motor" and "pedal" (actually the same words as in English): mo(tor) + ped(al). The word was coined by the motor journalist Harald Nielsen for the Swedish magazine "Motor" in 1952. The Swedish linguist Catharina Grünbaum explains in Dagens Nyheter that the "motorvelociped origin" is wrong [25]. See also Merriam-Webster "Etymology: Swedish, from motor + pedal".Kricke 20:45, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
- If the word "moped" was really only coined in 1952, I think we need much better evidence for it that what we've got. Even if it turns out to be true, the word probably only became accepted to replace a lot of other terms for the same thing (eg autocycles were 97cc instead of 49cc). It's recentism to write this article as if the moped sprang fully fledged shortly after the war. MalcolmMcDonald (talk) 20:53, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
"80km/h bike" (Germany)
Is it an actual regulation that 125cc motorcycles are limited to 80km/h in Germany (or new/learner riders on them are limited to such), or is it just that the last 125 the writer of that paragraph was on managed to reach approximately that speed?
My own 125, naked styled bike is of average to low power compared to the whole category of EU-wide power limited learner bikes (when all the notoriously weak Chinese scooters and light bikes are excluded, it's only noticably stronger than one major rival that's meant as a citybound underbone; 8.5kW inside a legal limit of 11kW) - but it still typically manages to just exceed 100km/h on the flat (varying 90-110k depending on wind), which is what I understood as a more normal speed class for these machines. A stronger tuned one (11kW) with better fairings should easily be capable of 120-130.
Therefore I'm wondering at the reason for calling them that. If all you can get out of it is 80, either it's been legally restricted, or the engine badly needs a tuneup (even the chinese bikes can manage about 90). There isn't however any mention in the text of this being an official limitation rather than an intrinsic small-bike problem. 193.63.174.10 ([[User talk:193.63.174.10|talk]]) 11:22, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Italian moped laws
As regards the Italian legislation, penalties for those who make the moped faster than 45 km / h are only theoretical, because the police, following the law as it is, should fine all mopeds passing by. In fact, almost always the police ignore the mopeds that are faster than 45 km / h because they consider it normal. You will be fined only if you drive recklessly or if you make too much noise because of the muffler. --93.71.138.166 (talk) 15:07, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
- If you have a reliable reference then such a statement could be put into the article. As it stands it is original research and therefore can't be included. --Biker Biker (talk) 15:40, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
Safety section
Not only is this section written from a narrow, one-sided, non-NPOV, it doesn't even accurately reflect the writer's own citations. It's been almost a year since first mentioned on the talk page, with no changes forthcoming. There seems to be consensus that it should either be rewritten or deleted. I'm now tagging it with NPOV Check, in the hopes of some feedback on which to base corrective actions. Thanks. HuntClubJoe (talk) 12:38, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
Electro-magentic mopeds
The spark accelerator i invented is not made for anything else but a connector which doesnt blow up. It wont work on standard scooters, because they lack the correct connectors. My connecters have wats called a condensed material, basically its taped in the center but has small openings for the sparks to fly. The fact is connecters in electric vehicles create a type of explosion when too much voltage goes through the wires. The spark accerelator, will melt your standard connector. However, a connector with a protector that doesnt touch the plastic is the best solution. This is done by simply using aluminum foil and tape around the copper connector, then leaving the joints open, after that you put a plastic that doesnt touch the wire(those cord wrap protectors found on bikes) to protect it from explosion. Taping standard rubber over the battery and using rubberbands for insulation is also a smart move. Between the batteries i use the thinest wire possible, but connecting it to the controller requires thick wires. This conserves battery life and is ideal for going up to 12 miles in a standard 36 volt kids scooter. Another important factor is the wheel and chain, i use a thf chain on a 1000 watt motor for motorcycles. I had to use double bolts and spec barrings so the powerful motor wouldnt pull the wheel. The wheel itself is too small, these advantages will make a tiny kids vehicle with weight limitations into a cargo carrying beast, just the other day i hauled a monitor and pc without battery drain, and once i road 22miles total with the help of a half hour charging location on a standard 36 volt battery charger). In 20 degree weather it does up to 6-12 miles total depending if the weather is dry or not. This was all done via a hybrid kids scooter you get from the market e-scooters and such. The protectors are on all the positive wires. Jus' the other day i forgot to put one on so it went off. However, the spark accelerator is just a button that is pressed to gain full speed in less than half a second. Its good for uphills and stuff. Its made for my electro-magnetic vehicle i call the electro-magnetic scooter. The joints are important, that's the wire you need to insulate, not the connecter themselves. The connections have to breath or burns will be created. I installed iridium magnets to the controller, and motor. Doesnt work well in cold weather, works but isnt temp controlled. Also due to me not actually owning expensive factory equipment such as a welder, (and soldered wires being too weak) are usually just thin 1980 antenna wires that don't melt (thick plastic insulation) and are harnessed via clamps and tight copper connecters to the battery life. It just blocks the sparks basically. It can work temp controlled but thats not my field. The disadvantages are that it goes 22 miles top speed, however an engineer could easily get a temp controlled controller (such as a golfcart controller) with a 48 volt or a stronger battery, magnetism just retains the charge and lifespan.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.100.60.164 (talk) 12:05, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
- Electro-magentic mopeds is an interesting concept, however, to add information about this to this article, reliable sources are needed. Subtropical-man (talk) 23:57, 2 February 2013 (UTC)