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Nomination of Creative Disc Year-End Chart for deletion

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Hi, I see that you have blanked the article. I have deleted it, according to your wishes. If you wish to recover the content, don't hesitate to ask me! Regards, -- Luk ^talk 09:17, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, i deleted that article. Sometime i will recover the content, so wait for that time and I will ask you. Ggdlmnt (talk) 09:23, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. I can move it right now to your user space so you can work on it, or you may request undeletion at Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion when you feel like it. Cheers! -- Luk ^talk 09:28, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Help:Userspace draft

Hey Ggdlmnt and welcome to Wikipedia! Thanks for your contributions! Yey! Anyway, I suggest you to use a draft in creating new articles. Because as what happened earlier, you're needing more time in improving your article. With a draft, you can take your time in adding what is appropriate in the article without a hurry or a feeling that "my article might be deleted". It's just a suggestion but I'm sure it will help you. Also, please read WP:GNG, WP:V or WP:CHARTS for more info. Thanks, Mediran (t • c) 09:27, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Mediran and thank you! Haha. Thank you for your help, I'm new here so I need more advice like this. So, once again thank you for your help! CheersGgdlmnt (talk) 09:31, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Creative Disc

Can you show me any sources that show that Creative Disc is an acceptable source of charts? Newspapers that publish it? Record companies that issue press releases about their positions on it? Sources showing that Creative Disc is affiliated with the IFPI, Nielsen, or another nationally recognized measurement firm? It won't pass WP:Record charts unless you can, and {{singlechart}} only points at charts that pass guidelines.—Kww(talk) 00:35, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In that case, you should not be adding the chart to any articles: they don't pass our guidelines for inclusion.—Kww(talk) 00:56, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It shouldn't be in any articles. Read WP:Record charts#Suitable charts.—Kww(talk) 01:20, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Croatian chart is from Croatian Radiotelevision, the official national broadcaster of Croatia, and reports data for all Croatian radio stations. Rádio Top 100 Oficiálna is published by the Hungarian branch of the IFPI. The Official Lebanese Top 20 is published in seven different magazines as well as being broadcast on two different television networks (including MTV) and one radio network.—Kww(talk) 22:50, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Just saw this discussion. No, it is not OK to add information without a reliable source, and, if your information includes mention of a living person, can result in being blocked, even if the information is true.—Kww(talk) 15:28, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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When you create or edit discography articles, please don't add blank Indonesian and Malaysian columns that can never be filled in.—Kww(talk) 21:29, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it was. But in Agnes Monica discography, you created it that way.—Kww(talk) 01:53, 13 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Why on earth did you restore those columns to the Anggun discography?—Kww(talk) 14:54, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

Nearly every edit you have made today has either not included a source or says something that isn't in the sources in the article. Don't do that. It is not my job to clean up after you. It isn't anybody's job to clean up after you. If you can't provide a reliable source for the information that you are adding to articles, then don't add it.—Kww(talk) 00:08, 16 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Let's be very, very clear: if I find you posting data from a forum again, you will be blocked indefinitely. This is your final warning.—Kww(talk) 01:36, 16 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Request reason:

I'm sorry if I made something wrong. But i'm clearly don't have any idea why I got blocked. May explain why?Ggdlmnt (talk) 03:54, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

Looking at comments both above and below this request, it is obvious that you either have no willingness, or no ability, to understand the problem you have caused. To be unblocked you will need to convince us that this is no longer the case. --Anthony Bradbury^"talk" 20:50, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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See a source here or here?—Kww(talk) 04:34, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

So, okay i forgot to give a source. It comes from Billboard. Is that the reason I got blocked? Ggdlmnt (talk) 06:49, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Let's see. You were warned about adding unsourced material and material from blogs. You had a bunch of edits reverted specifically because they were unsourced. You were told you would be blocked the next time. You then went and undid the reversions that had specifically called out that the reason for the reversion was that the material was unsourced (see the edit summary?), gave no explanation for the reversion, and still didn't point to a reliable source. Now, you say that you "forgot" to add the source. Why do you think you were blocked?—Kww(talk) 07:26, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know exactly why i get blocked, thats why im asking you. And i'm a human right? i do forgot sometimes. You can't blame me if I forgot something.Ggdlmnt (talk) 07:36, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You were blocked because you repeated misbehaviour after a final warning. The idea that you could forget to add a source when reverting an edit that specifically said "unsourced" is pretty unbelievable. Do you seriously want me to believe that when you reverted seven edits in four minutes that you could forget that the edit summary said "unsourced" inbetween seeing the edit and pressing the undo button?—Kww(talk) 07:41, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to bed now. What I'm really looking for here is a credible reason to believe that this kind of problem won't repeat itself, and a big part of that is believing that you both understand the problem and are willing to be honest about it. This set of reverts is one thing. Your earlier set of reverts where you put Indonesian columns a second time after falsely claiming you hadn't done so earlier, following the set of edits where you continued to add the Creative Disc charts even after you were aware that the consensus was that the chart was unusable all make me skeptical. I'm still listening, though: talk. Try to convince me that you understand what you are doing wrong and won't do it any more.—Kww(talk) 07:53, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Okay I know i'm wrong if you reversed to Creative Disc case. I'm not doing that again. Even when I use Indonesian chart column, I didn't put any Creative Disc thing in that too. And, for the unsourcable edit, i've almost never use Edit summary everytime I edit any articles. I'm sorry, i was like have no idea what was that until a few days ago. Ggdlmnt (talk) 09:52, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The edit summary is a minor part. The problem is that when you were completely aware that the material had been objected to as unsourced, you put it back and, when confronted about it, you told a lame story. You did a very similar thing with this edit where you also restored unsourced numbers for no apparent reason. You should never include unsourced material in the first place, but it's even worse to put unsourced material back in after it has been removed. Why do you keep doing that?—Kww(talk) 14:12, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well, im not the first person to put Indonesia column in that page. Im just adding new albums in there. And, when i put that charts back, i already find the source in Indonesian page of that articles. Im sorry, i think its like an official for an airplay chartsGgdlmnt (talk) 16:20, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This would go faster if you actually answered my questions. Look at this edit for example. You added back material that had been removed. You claimed that the album had hit number 1 on the Indonesian charts when you know that there's no Indonesian chart. You inserted claims that the album had sold 2,000,000 copies worldwide, and specific claims of 1,000,000 sales in Indonesia; 150,000 in Malaysia; and 15,000 in Singapore, all without a single source. Why did you insert data that you had no source for? Are you copying data from http://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskografi_Anggun to English Wikipedia? You can't do that: you can't even copy data from English Wikipedia to English Wikipedia.—Kww(talk) 16:58, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not copying data. I'm just making a new articles using some sources in Indonesian Wikipedia. And if you blocked me because of that, it's funny because I edited that articles on May 14, and you give me a final warning on May 16, and then I don't think I edited it again. Seriously, I need to know why. Ggdlmnt (talk) 02:07, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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I promise that I'm not gonna add any Indonesian charts to any songs/albums/discographies articles. And if I found something about Indonesian Airplay Charts, I'm gonna ask User:Kww first befor adding it. Promise. Thank you :) Ggdlmnt (talk) 11:14, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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You are still missing the point. It isn't the Indonesian charts, it's the blog sourced material, wiki sourced material, and unsourced material. The charts are just one example.—Kww(talk) 15:07, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think the last one is when i publish Billboard charts before it was published on the web right? Ggdlmnt (talk) 16:22, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That was when I decided that you didn't understand what you needed to do, yes. It wasn't the only thing you had done wrong, though. It was just one more in a long list. Talking to you, it doesn't seem like you understand why what you are doing is wrong. You've never really answered my questions about this edit, for example. Why did you revert that edit? Why did you think that putting in all those numbers about sales when there was no source for the numbers was a good idea?—Kww(talk) 16:30, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It was there before i adding any albums. here. I'm just adding it back just like before i edit anything. Ggdlmnt (talk) 17:05, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you add it back? I had gone through and fixed the problems with the article, and you put all the problems back in. Why? That's the question I keep asking that you don't answer. Why did you think it was better to have an article full of unsourced numbers and chart positions? Why did you put put them back in? Why did you put those Billboard positions back in without a source when they had been removed for being unsourced?—Kww(talk) 17:16, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm just adding it back just like before i edit anything. You know? I'm just adding that thing again. Because it was sourced for me, this. You blame me because i get caught? I mean, it's not fully my false. I'm just adding it back like the original one before i edit anything. And for the Billboard, it was sourced. you can see it on billboard charts RIGHT NOW Ggdlmnt (talk) 17:31, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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 ::::It was there before i adding any albums. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anggun_discography&diff=547952883&oldid=542875818 here]. I'm just adding it back just like before i edit anything. [[User:Ggdlmnt|Ggdlmnt]] ([[User talk:Ggdlmnt#top|talk]]) 17:05, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
 :::::'''''Why''''' did you add it back? I had gone through and fixed the problems with the article, and you ''put all the problems back in''. '''''Why'''''? That's the question I keep asking that you don't answer. '''''Why''''' did you think it was better to have an article full of unsourced numbers and chart positions? '''''Why''''' did you put put them back in? '''''Why''''' did you put those Billboard positions back in without a source when they had been removed for being unsourced?&mdash;[[User:Kww|Kww]]([[User talk:Kww|talk]]) 17:16, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
+::::::''I'm just adding it back just like before i edit anything.'' You know? I'm just adding that thing again. Because it was sourced for me, [http://www.pxdrive.com/album/ANGGUN_pictures_srrypic/ this]. You blame me because i get caught? I mean, it's not fully my false. '''I'm just adding it back like the original one before i edit anything.''' And for the Billboard, '''''it was sourced. you can see it on billboard charts RIGHT NOW''''' [[User:Ggdlmnt|Ggdlmnt]] ([[User talk:Ggdlmnt#top|talk]]) 17:31, 19 May 2013 (UTC)