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Requested Move - Sotah

Please see Talk:Sotah#Requested_move. It has been re-listed due to lack of participation. Thank you. -- Avi (talk)

Deletion of RS-sourced references, and text, relating to person being a Jew

Perhaps people familiar with Judaism may be interested in the discussion here. An editor is repeatedly deleting information sourced to a number of RSs, to the effect that a person is a Jew. His reasoning has at times included: a) the fact that the person is not religious; and b) the fact that only his mother was Jewish.--Epeefleche (talk) 20:58, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

OGG of Yad achim

File:Yad achim better.ogg and File:Yad achim full.ogg have been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 07:12, 26 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Edit dispute on Rubashkin family

There is currently an edit dispute on the article Rubashkin family regarding the use of the term 'Haredi' instead of 'Ultra-Orthodox'. Here is where I discussed the matter on User:Ajnem's talk page. Here is the prior consensus that this WikiProject reached regarding usage of the term. --PiMaster3 ^talk 14:36, 26 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Let me make this clear and simple. Wikipedia reports what reliable sources (RS) report. There are, as far as I know, no RS calling the Rubashkins or any other ultra-Orthodox (American) Jews "Haredi", a term nobody knows, understands or cares for outside of Israel and certain Jewish circles. Ultra-Orthodox is the proper and correct term, it is not derogatory or in any other way negative. If ultra-Orthodox Jews (~10% of all Jews) think that they are the one and only God fearing Jews they are mistaken. All Orthodox Jews are haredi and lots of Conservative Jews too, and – believe it or not – plenty of Reform Jews as well. And there is no "prior consensus that this WikiProject reached" whatsoever. PiMaster3 + one user don't make a consensus. But beyond any doubt, there is a very broad consensus about WP:RS we can and should stick to. Cheers, --Ajnem (talk) 08:40, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with the last editor. As I did in the discussion referred to above. Debresser (talk) 09:17, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I personally think that "Ultra-Orthodox" is a stupid and misleading term. But what I personally think doesn't count; that's what most RS use in English for this portion of the Jewish community. So I have to agree with the previous editors as well. StevenJ81 (talk) 12:59, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Basemath and Mahalath need merging

These are the same person - Mahalath seems to usual name according to GBooks and GScholar, would someone like to merge them? Both have useful material. Dougweller (talk) 12:15, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Wikipedia article on Mahalath says that according to some they are the same. If not all agree, then we can not merge the articles. Debresser (talk) 16:00, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Article assessment

Is anyone in the project doing article assessments at this point? I put in a request for a reassessment of Pesach Sheni about four months ago, with no response. I led a major rework of this at that point, and I'm sure its quality is at minimum B-class rather than Start-class. At the time, I didn't really think I should change it myself under the circumstances. Still, 4 months is a long time.

So ... given that I am not going to promote it to GA or anything ... unless someone else evaluates the article in the next seven days, I will change the evaluation to B-class at that point myself. StevenJ81 (talk) 20:58, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done StevenJ81 (talk) 13:17, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Simple English Wikipedia: Announcement and Request for Help

I am pleased to announce that the article on Shabbat in Simple English Wikipedia was promoted to GA status today. As far as I have been able to determine, this is the first article on a Judaism topic in simplewiki to be promoted.

Side note: The article was translated into Ladino, which did not have an article of its own on the topic.

This brings me to the request for help. I could really use some help on Judaism topics at simplewiki. Very fundamental topics have no articles, or have really superficial stubs. If you feel like you can jump in over there and help, it would be very much appreciated.

Thank you, and Shabbat Shalom! StevenJ81 (talk) 21:06, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move at Sephiroth (Final Fantasy) 2013

To Sephiroth. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 04:22, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

See Talk:Sephiroth_(Final_Fantasy)#Requested_Move_2013 -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 04:41, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Sephirot" and "Sephiroth"

The law for protection of the nation.jpg

image:The law for protection of the nation.jpg is under discussion at WP:NFCR concerning its copyright status -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 05:43, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Potential GA/A-class/FA promotions

With the help of Debresser (talk · contribs) I have been working for a long while on two WikiProject Judaism articles, Shemini Atzeret and Jewish holidays, and now believe they are nearly ready to be put up for promotion.

I think Shemini Atzeret is definitely ready for WP:Good article status, and above that possibly A-class status.
Jewish holidays needs one more major piece of work: I need to separate "plain references" from "notes". But beyond that, it is ready for nomination, and I'm thinking possibly even WP:Featured article for that one.

My very strong request: Is there anyone here who gets involved with evaluations like that who is willing to give these a look-see before I formally put them up? I'd rather not do WP:Peer review also, if I don't need to. (Obviously I will if I do need to.)
Thanks in advance to all. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:02, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Holocaust" OR "The Holocaust"

Recently, the article that was titled The Holocaust was changed to Holocaust with relatively little input. Please see the follow-up discussion at Talk:Holocaust#Follow-up discussion about a hasty decision and please contribute your views. Thank you. IZAK (talk) 07:33, 26 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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 *'''[[Jewish holidays]]''' needs one more major piece of work: I need to separate "plain references" from "notes". But beyond that, it is ready for nomination, and I'm thinking possibly even [[WP:Featured article]] for that one.
 My very strong request: Is there anyone here who gets involved with evaluations like that who is willing to give these a look-see before I formally put them up? I'd rather not do [[WP:Peer review]] ''also,'' if I don't need to. (Obviously I will if I do need to.)<br>Thanks in advance to all. [[User:StevenJ81|StevenJ81]] ([[User talk:StevenJ81|talk]]) 14:02, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
+== "Holocaust" OR "The Holocaust" ==
+Recently, the article that was titled [[The Holocaust]] was changed to [[Holocaust]] with relatively little input. Please see the follow-up discussion at [[Talk:Holocaust#Follow-up discussion about a hasty decision]] and please contribute your views. Thank you. [[User:IZAK|IZAK]] ([[User talk:IZAK|talk]]) 07:33, 26 July 2013 (UTC)