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Help Project newsletter : Issue 6

The Help Project Newsletter	Issue VI - April 2013
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Welcome thanks

hey, thanks :)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Highspiritswow (talk • contribs)

About your answer on the help desk related to the subtitle/taxon creation

Hi Ukexpat, thanks for your comment on the helpdesk about the subtitle/taxon creation, but the original french version of this template is fr:Modèle:Sous-titre/Taxon, if that could contribute to help me. Bastaco (talk) 08:34, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Help needed

Following your edits, I think I need some help inserting cites to the article. Thanks! --Michael Haephrati (talk) 16:09, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Please take a look at WP:Referencing for beginners. Rather than referring to the scans you should use the appropriate citation template ({{Cite web}}, {{Cite news}} or {{Cite journal}} for example) referring to the original printed articles etc.--ukexpat (talk) 16:14, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! --Michael Haephrati (talk) 16:15, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

I am happy to say I now know how to use the Cite templates. I have worked on the version before your change and at the same time on the current version, going over the articles and sources listed in the old version and adding cites to them inside a textual description. I have added now 2 sites and wanted to ask if you could take a look before I proceed. --Michael Haephrati (talk) 16:46, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Another thing you have commented was "links to scans of sources are not permitted". There are direct links to most of the Amiga magazines, but these links lead to .zip archive per each issue of each Magazine. I have downloaded each issue mentioned and isolated the page of the article (so in some of the cases, these are not scans in fact) and uploaded to Flickr. I can't think of a better way to also display the image of the article cited. The sources for these archives are: Amazing Computing and Amiga World. Michael Haephrati (talk) 17:01, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

As far as I can tell you are still using Flickr. That's not the way to do it. For ref #1 for example, you should be citing the journal itself using {{Cite journal}}, leaving out the Flickr link. If someone wants to verify the reference, they use the details in the template to find the journal in, say, a library rather than by looking at Flickr.--ukexpat (talk) 17:44, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

So there is no justification to provide a photo the article page as well (if extracted from the archive)? Michael Haephrati (talk) 17:47, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

In my view no, because a scan is not verifiable (because of the risk, albeit small, of manipulation), whereas as hard copy in a library is verifiable.--ukexpat (talk) 17:51, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Now it points to the official archive of the specific issue (year + month) of the cited magazine — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michael.haephrati (talk • contribs) 18:07, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

I found a new edit which has citing problems and other problems, but just to be on the safe side, you may wish to take a look. Thanks Michael Haephrati (talk) 15:28, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

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Question about Johnson Controls article

Hello Ukexpat

Thank you for the message you left on my user talk page when I joined Wikipedia. I thought I would reach out to you for help with a question I have on the Johnson Controls Wikipedia article.

I drafted an update to the Business Unit section of the Johnson Controls article and proposed that draft on the articles talk page at Talk:Johnson_Controls#Requested_update_to_.27Business_Units.27_section.

I haven't had a response to the proposed draft. Would you be able to respond to the draft please?

Thank you for your help

--Anna C Timms (talk) 14:40, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

ORTS permissions problem

Hi Ukexpat !

You marked 4 pictures I sent on wikimedia as "missing evidence permission".

• https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Stèle_Golgotha.jpg
• https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Lives_in_parallel.jpg
• https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Human_grape.jpg
• https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Life_Score.jpg

I can understand that you need to protect wikimedia and to ensure that these files have the requested permissions, however, I already sent twice an email to the OTRS (french section) with no answers, this even before you marked these pictures as "missing permission".

What else can I do ?

I hope you'll be able to help me!

Clement.nuss (talk) 11:44, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

You just have to be patient as the OTRS queue is backlogged. If the images are deleted they will be undeleted when the permissions are processed.--ukexpat (talk) 12:48, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Reviewing my subission

UKexpat: Several weeks ago I submitted my biographical material to Wikipedia...I did not keep a copy... Is there any way I can retrieve a copy of my submission or do I have to wait until it is published in the Wikipedia Encyclopedia? It was submitted as Al ( Allen ) Schwartz or Allen (Al) Schwartz. I realize it can take months before it actually appears on line.

Thank You,

Al Schwartz [e-mail removed] Al Schwartz3 (talk) 18:34, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

See the reply at Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions#Submitted material.--ukexpat (talk) 18:40, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

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Hi UKexpat,

i hope you are ok,

yesterday i posted my first wikipedia page related to the company i work.

my purpose is not to promote my company, rather to promote the greek software market (as you know, we are in middle of a crisis in the country and we really try hard to become more extrovert and competitive and to meet global standards).

could you please assist me on selecting a better approach on the article, so it will not violate wikipedia's guidelines?

would it be a solution if i add a sentence for competitors in the greek market?

many thanks in advance for your time on this,

kind regards, Dimitrios