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Concerning your reverts on WDDM

The Microsoft MSDN article clearly states "Windows 8.1 Preview introduces version 1.3 of the Windows Display Driver Model (WDDM)" and "The following functionality has been added in Direct3D 11.2, which is included with Windows 8.1 Preview, Windows RT 8.1 Preview, and Windows Server 2012 R2 Preview." along with all the features that I supposedly 'claimed'. WDDM1.3 is in fact used in Windows 8.1 Preview, you can verify it by yourself.

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About the Firefox website

I saw that you reverted my edit to Firefox's website URL. You say that the link doesn't work in your browser anymore, but I tried in my browsers (Firefox and Chrome), and when clicking the link in my version, I arrive at working pages, both with the HTTP version and the HTTPS version:

• With Firefox I arrive at: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/fx/ and https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/fx/
• With Chrome I arrive at: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/ and https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/

All those links work for me (I'm in Sweden). May I ask which browser you're using? Skalman (talk) 19:24, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Hello, Skalman. It is so nice of you to drop by. I appreciate it. I use Firefox and Chromium on Linux Mint Lisa but I don't live in Sweden. Okay, so it works for you and does not work for me. What do you suggest we do? Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 19:38, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

I find it very strange that it doesn't work for you, so I simply wanted to make sure you weren't mistaken - if it really doesn't work for you, we'll just leave it as it is. Do the four links I posted above work? Which one(s) don't? Are you by chance in a country which has some internet censorship? (I also tested via a proxy from California, and that also works) Skalman (talk) 06:26, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Hello again. Actually, all four links which you posted work, though the HTTP ones are surprisingly fast and the HTTPS ones are slower than other HTTPS pages that I often visit.) The one you put in the article, however, is problematic unless I load the article over a HTTP connection.

Now, in general, I am not comfortable giving a clue as to where I or any other Wikipedians live (I think you shouldn't have either) but suffice to say that I am confident that Internet censorship cannot have caused this problem. Since you have tested the links in your web browser and it is certainly not the result of human error in editing, I think I can live with whatever decision you make in this case. You have my gratitude for following up on this.

Best regards,

Codename Lisa (talk) 06:47, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Since it's problematic for you I'll leave the http:// link in the article (others may have the same problems).

I've already on several other places made my identity (at least semi-) public, so I don't think it changes much for me, but I understand why you'd want to stay pseudonymous - had I created my account today I'd do the same. Skalman (talk) 07:00, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

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You seem to have ignored my request for you to correct your false claim that the references do not call the subject of the article "free". I have explicitly proven that they have. Of course, you're not required to correct yourself but not correcting your claim only reflects poorly upon you. WCS100 (talk) 20:30, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi. I did. I said that I am withdrawing the whole issue in the second paragraph of my message. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 20:32, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

All you did was say that there's a consensus (there isn't) because I agree that it doesn't belong in the category (I don't agree). The whole reason we're having a discussion is because by the definition of "Freeware" on Wikipedia, which is used to define the category, the article is not "Freeware". So do we follow that precedent or do we go with the numerous sources that call the app "Free"? WCS100 (talk) 20:45, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi. No, I said the opposite. I said as long as there is a consensus, I can withdraw it. Clear? Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 20:55, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Right. So are you saying if there is no consensus about categories applied the article, which there isn't, you're not withdrawing your your claim that the references I added do not say that the app if "free"? This is my issue. They do say that the app is "free", several times, which is the only thing I've claimed but you said that not only that the do the sources not support the claim (that the app is "free") but that making the claim "is not allowed".

Perhaps I'm missing something here but the statement, regardless of any consensus made on what categories apply to the article, is false on two counts. "Not allowed" hasn't be proven in the slightest and that the app isn't called "free" in "any of the sources" is patently false. I would like you to correct yourself. The matter of consensus is independent of these claims that you have made which I feel are not only incorrect, but could be interpreted as defamatory. After talking with you shortly, I truly don't believe that was your intent at all.

I'm starting to think that we're just not communicating with each other effectively. Maybe we should just start over? :-) WCS100 (talk) 21:48, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm heading out the door and will be busy for a few days. I may not be able to respond quickly. We can talk later if you'd like. WCS100 (talk) 22:01, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Hello. WCS100. Yes, you are missing something and you are missing it big. I said "as long as" and never said anything about "what if not"! You are assuming my answer for yourself and the answer you are assuming is a rash rejection of worst case scenario kind. You are being unkind and merciless to yourself simply because I am not unkind and merciless with you. If you don't agree that Category:Free instant messaging clients and Category:Free VoIP software are wrong categories, then post a message to that effect in talk page. I'll see what happens then. (Maybe you have and I haven't gotten around to see it yet. I am not a robot attached to Wikipedia, you know. I have a life too.) Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 22:42, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

"If you don't agree that Category:Free instant messaging clients and Category:Free VoIP software are wrong categories, then post a message to that effect in talk page."... You realize this is why there's an RfC, right? WCS100 (talk) 14:05, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

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Re: Port

Sorry about that, I'd like to clarify that the Android and WP versions of Splinter Cell Conviction were ported, or at least, converted, from the original iOS version if not developed alongside them.

And yeah, I can get that. From what I've heard the PC and Mac versions of Max Payne 3 were a distinct if not separate codebase from the home console editions. Still it's wrong to call a version that's completely different from the equivalent home platform version as a port as it isn't converted or ported in any way. Blake Gripling (talk) 07:19, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Yep. Gameloft's versions were typically reworked and had a different story and graphics/assets from the home console builds. Blake Gripling (talk) 07:34, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Noted. At least we can vouch on using the term "version" instead of merely describing it as a port regardless of codebase. I haven't honestly played the mobile versions, apart from the side-scrolling J2ME game developed by the same studio, but I've seen enough footage to tell you that it isn't the same exact banana. I'd praise Gameloft if they stayed true to PC/console, as what Indiagames did in their mobile rework of Bioshock, though. Blake Gripling (talk) 10:28, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Edit revert on Babylon (software)

Hey, I reverted your edit on Babylon (software), which itself was a reversion of my edit when I classified the article under WP:WikiProject Computer Security. I made a note on the article's talk page, but I also want to make sure there's no misunderstanding. My reasoning is that other browser hijackers are also classified with the malware tag so they can be given attention from the Computer Security project, and Babylon should not be an exception. Thanks. →ozhu量 (talk·contribs) 07:42, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

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VisualEditor newsletter for 21 August 2013

Both VisualEditor and MediaWiki were upgraded recently. For VisualEditor, this is the long-awaited post-Wikimania update with many bug fixes and enhancements. Work also continues on speed at opening and during use, as well as on the bugs reported here and at other Wikipedias. The full report is at Mediawiki.

References are displaying properly, even when nested (Template:Bug) or in image captions (Template:Bug. Reference lists are now always fully populated with references (bug 50094). Firefox users can insert an existing reference in the first paragraph (Template:Bug). Opera users no longer see corruption of categories when a reference was added (bug 50385).

Stray spaces are being stripped from the start of paragraphs to end one of the common <nowiki> problems (Template:Bug). We also fixed a round-tripping bug that caused desirable whitespace in templates (used to make templates more legible, e.g., by putting each parameter in an infobox on a separate line) to get corrupted (bug 51150).

Wikilink handling was improved. Users are not allowed to create internal links to invalid titles (titles that are actually impossible due to limits on acceptable character combinations in titles, not redlinks) (Template:Bug). You can extend wikilinks, but it won't do so over a wordbreak (like a space) (bugs 49931 and 51463).

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Removal of links from List of build automation software

Hi,

I just noticed that dozens of links have been removed from List of build automation software because "Wikipedia is not a link farm". Personally, I'm not that happy with this. Let me explain.

During my PhD on build system technology, I've gathered links to dozens of build tools and environments, and stored them in a personal wiki, since some are very obscure and hard to track using Google. I used this personal wiki until November 2010, when I decided to contribute my collection to wikipedia, since the then available page on build technology was rather empty and many colleagues time after time asked me for links to certain tools.

I was pleasantly surprised when other people started updating the links, adding tools I had missed, re-categorizing them, making a comparative table, etc. Most of these people are developers or other experts who found the content useful for their work. I've also been pointing many researchers and students towards the page, and it also allowed us to put links to research tools and prototypes, to some extent the only way for people without access to ACM or IEEE (i.e., developers, project leads, ...) to get to know those tools. In short, the page was a live, up-to-date listing of build system automation tools, a perfect fit for Wikipedia.

However, now all of this seems to be gone, since only the established, popular tools with their own Wikipedia page are left. Lesser known tools and newer ones, including the research tools, have been censored out. Where should people now go to see the full list of tools or see a comparison of newer tools to older ones? Do we need to fork the page to another web site, such that there will be two versions (the incomplete wikipedia one and a complete one on a non-encyclopedia site)? Who actually benefits out of this?

So, in short, I don't think this link removal makes any sense for this page, and I would like to ask you to revert this change. Looking forward to your reply.

Bramadams (talk) 03:57, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi.

Although Wikipedia is not a linkfarm, you can contribute those links to DMOZ.org, a programming Wiki or software wiki, like the one on Wikia.com, or one of the programs on Wikiversity or Wikibooks. External link to the page that gets those links is accepted.

However, as for removing those links, I have two very strong reasons beyond just a bureaucratic one:

1. First, Wikipedia is run on donation. People already feel very strongly about their tax money being spent on something outside the tax expenditure scope; imagine how they feel if their donation money goes to some very technical contents that only people like you and me (I am a Delphi / C# developer – actually, have been) understand. They call us geeks, remember?
2. Second, contributing specialized contents to Wikipedia hinders the growth of venues dedicates to specialized contents. Quality programming web sites were shut down just because Wikipedia now hosts those contents ... against its policy too. It is just not fair!

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 04:19, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

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Hello, I was browsing around and found a few redirect pages like Windows 2005, Windows 2009 and Windows 2013 (they weren't made by you but by some other editor). What purpose do they serve? Personally I do not know anyone anywhere who might refer to Windows 7 as "Windows 2009", not to mention the fact that Google wants me to go to Windows Embedded Standard 2009 page when I try to search for "Windows 2009"... Perhaps these redundant and confusing redirects should be removed completely? What do you think? 173.68.110.16 (talk) 05:10, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi. I have no idea what purpose they serve. There is no inbound link to them, so I am even surprised that you found them! But view stat says they have some traffic. They can be nominated for deletion, but the nominator must explain their traffic. (It is not a totally barring issue. If the nominator can argue that the traffic is the instance of sending the reader to a wild goose chase...) Perhaps their creator, User:Rgbc2000 would care comment on them? Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 05:53, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

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MFC article

Thanks Lisa for cleaning up my changes. --Michael Haephrati (talk) 14:36, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

IA-32

Maybe talking to that guy helps, Codename. Don't take me wrong: You added four sources and the guy just deleted them and actually adds what needs a source. Too rash for my taste. But still, I'd drop him a talk page message if I were you. Fleet Command (talk) 04:03, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi. Just out of curiosity, how comes you got involved? Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 04:16, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

IA-32 is one of the articles that I often link to in my blog, along with x64. So, naturally, I visit it a lot to get my quotes letter by letter right. When I see three sources disappear between my visits in just a minute, you can bet investigate. When I see those sources were not in an area of dispute and were removed just because they were the collateral damage of some guy wanting to hit revert button to make his point, my vein pops and my blood pressure hits real high. Of course I've already told you a good bit of history, so you know why, don't you? Fleet Command (talk) 04:46, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Noticed a navbox edit

I noticed this edit; you might try linking to WP:NAV or WP:BRINT next time. :) --Izno (talk) 14:39, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Merci, Izno. I racked my brain but I couldn't remember the shortcut name at the time! Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 17:09, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

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Article Feedback Tool update

Hey Codename Lisa. I'm contacting you because you're involved in the Article Feedback Tool in some way, either as a previous newsletter recipient or as an active user of the system. As you might have heard, a user recently anonymously disabled the feedback tool on 2,000 pages. We were unable to track or prevent this due to the lack of logging feature in AFT5. We're deeply sorry for this, as we know that quite a few users found the software very useful, and were using it on their articles.

We've now re-released the software, with the addition of a logging feature and restrictions on the ability to disable. Obviously, we're not going to automatically re-enable it on each article—we don't want to create a situation where it was enabled by users who have now moved on, and feedback would sit there unattended—but if you're interested in enabling it for your articles, it's pretty simple to do. Just go to the article you want to enable it on, click the "request feedback" link in the toolbox in the sidebar, and AFT5 will be enabled for that article.

Again, we're very sorry about this issue; hopefully it'll be smooth sailing after this :). If you have any questions, just drop them at the talkpage. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) 21:29, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Dab page linking

Good morning Codename Lisa. You recently repeated your edit at Seal of the Confessional and the Lutheran Church - as you have access to the edit history, I assume that your edit summary is sarcastic, but may I respectfully suggest that it fails the test of WP:AGF, and probably also of WP:CIVIL. Linking to Dab pages, whilst uncommon, is sometimes necessary, as the guidelines themselves make clear. I believe that this is an example of such a case. The reader encounters (in the lead paragraph) the phrase "Seal of the Confessional", and may require an explanation of this term. As the term has a slightly different definition in each of at least four different Christian traditions, the best link is to the Dab page that points to three of those four explanations (the fourth does not yet have a Wikipedia article). I'm not going to revert your edit, as I don't wish to provoke unpleasantness, or edit warring. Instead I shall re-write the leads of all three articles, although I think this will be a more clumsy and cumbersome solution. Timothy Titus ^{Talk To TT} 10:57, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Hello, Tim

I did not visit the page history. I was surprised to see the DabFix reporting the issue after I fixed it but I never thought of visiting page history because DabFix does reports the same issue after it is resolved. The solution is to redo the thing to get rid of the notice. However, if you had dropped me a note after reverting – which is the revert policy – I wouldn't have made the second edit with DabFix.

You can have the link back if you wish, although IMHO, it serves no purpose and violates MOS:LEAD that says the bold definition in the lead should not be linked at all.

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 16:21, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks very much - fully understood. If you hadn't looked at the edit history, then of course it casts your edit summary in a very different light. Thanks for your gracious comments above. I won't put the link back - I will, instead, rewrite the leads of the three articles, and see if I can find the appropriate compromise that way. Best wishes, Timothy Titus ^{Talk To TT} 16:29, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Re: 8.1?

Though, do note that unlike the service packs, 8.1 actually does have a larger number of new features than just bug fixes, so this is a slightly different situation.

See also http://www.itpro.co.uk/desktop-software/20478/microsoft-confirms-no-early-windows-81-release-technet-and-msdn-members

ViperSnake151  Talk  18:56, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Wait actually...

http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-confirms-windows-8-1-rtm-no-early-access-to-final-bits-7000019894/ http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2011/02/16/windows-7-sp1-rtm-is-out-for-msdn-and-technet-customers/ are sources that do say they did have a window of MSDN availability between GA and RTM for Windows 7 SP1. ViperSnake151  Talk  23:40, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

MUSH (e-mail client)

Hello Codename Lisa,

I've added additional external links to the discussion on the AFD page to address your question of whether MUSH really does predate the World Wide Web. Slaurel (talk) 03:10, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter for September 5

This Thursday's VisualEditor update was mostly about stability and performance improvements, and some preparatory work for major planned improvements, along with bug fixes for non-English language support and right-to-left text. Everything that the English Wikipedia received today has been running on Mediawiki for a week already.

Officially, the problem with the link inspector not linking to a specific section on a page (bug 53219) was fixed in this release, although that critical patch actually appeared here earlier.

A number of bugs related to copy-and-paste functionality were fixed (48604, bug 50043, bug 53362, bug 51538, among others). Full rich copy-and-paste from external sources into VisualEditor is expected "soon".

In other fixes, you can no longer add empty ref tags (<ref/>) (bug 53345). Selecting both an image and some text, and then trying to add a link, previously deleted the selected image and the text. This was fixed in bug 50127. There was another problem related to using arrow keys to move the cursor next to an inline image that was fixed (bug 53507).

Looking ahead: The next planned upgrade is scheduled for next Thursday, and you should expect to find a redesigned toolbar with drop-down menus that include room for references, templates, underline, strikethrough, superscript, subscript, and code formatting. There will also be keyboard shortcuts for setting the format (paragraph vs section headings).

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Dead-end links

What exactly are dead-end links, as you referred to in this edit? As I understand, a dead end is a page without links to other pages. Jackmcbarn (talk) 02:50, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi. A dead-end link is somewhat similar: it is a link that you follow but never reach the intended subject. In case of the article you pointed me to, it appeared on my DabFix dashboard. It had a link to "Guards" which was supposed to be the name of an artist, but when I follow the link, I reach a dab page that leads me to every kind of "Guards" (e.g. Security guard, police, train guard, rail guard, basketball guard, information security guard, guard dog, winterguard, colorguard, coast guard, border guard) but there is no link to an article or section about an artist called "Guards". John Grant is like that: Most of those John Grants are neither artists nor lived to see 1 January 2007.

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Codename Lisa (talk) 12:35, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

That box

The whole thing came from this hilarious, speedy deleted article. ViperSnake151  Talk  22:41, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

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Thank you

Codename Lisa, I appreciate the fact that you thanked me for my edit on Windows 3.0. TheMillionRabbit 19:59, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Concerning your reverts on NetBeans page

You have reverted my changes on the NetBeans page claiming they are 'not constructive'. I updated the picture of the NetBeans IDE from 6.9 to 7.4 release (at the request of the Netbeans team who asked for a volunteer to do this on their public mailing list, added a note in the JavaScript section to explain that it used a new library, altered the description to better match what NetBeans 7.4 currently does and added a link under external links to one of the most prolific sources of tutorials on NetBeans material. You will also note that I have made previous updates to the page to bring it uptodate. In what ways is this not constructive? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Markee174 (talk • contribs) 21:30, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

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Question about Microsoft Security Essentials article

Hi there! I've been browsing this article and noticed a minor thing which slightly bothered me. In the infobox on the right of the page, the "Stable release" link leads to this Softpedia page... which lists MSE as "4.3.216.0 / 4.4.207.0 Prerelease". I believe such thing might confuse some of the casual Wiki readers (especially the combination of the words like "Prerelease" and the "4.4.207.0" version number) and the "Stable release" link should instead lead to an official Microsoft's product page. I would've corrected it myself but after browsing through "Revision History" page I got afraid that an article owner might reverse my changes :-/ Would you kindly make a necessary correction? Thanks! 173.68.70.47 (talk) 04:03, 16 September 2013 (UTC)