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New section[edit]

sl:Dolinski most[edit]

Is there an English name of it? Dol Bridge, Dol Viadukt, Jelenov?Xx234 (talk) 09:47, 3 February 2015 (UTC) Your Leave me a message doesn't work.Xx234 (talk) 09:48, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

The Registry of Heritage uses the name 'Jelenov most', which would be 'Deer Bridge' in English. Thanks for the typo. --Eleassar my talk 15:33, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Jelenov Most[edit]

Xx234 (talk) 11:05, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

I've looked at various resources on this but haven't come up with anything definitive. It is unlikely that Dolinski most is named after Dol pri Borovnici (for which the adjective should be dolski, dolški, dolanski, or doljanski), but instead means 'Valley Bridge', referring to the small valley that it spans (the current article incorrectly states that it is located in Dol pri Borovnici). The German name Hirschthaler viadukt also indicates that it is named after the valley it spans, called (in German) Hirschthal (literally, 'Deer Valley'); I have not found a map or reliable source with a Slovene name for the valley spanned by the viaduct, although Jelenova dolina (literally, 'Deer Valley') is found here. All of this would indicate that the viaduct is named after a valley that was named after deer; thus, Valley Bridge (Dolinski most), Deer Valley Viaduct (Hirschthaler viadukt), and Deer Bridge (Jelenov most). It is also somewhat possible that Jelen is a surname, in which case it would not be translated—that is, Jelen Bridge (Jelenov most). Given that the Slovene WP page is at Dolinski most, I would suggest moving the English WP page to the corresponding Valley Bridge with a lede like this: "The Valley Bridge (Slovene: Dolinski most, also Jelenov viadukt 'Deer Viaduct'; German: Hirschthaler viadukt 'Deer Valley Viaduct') is a railroad viaduct in Borovnica." Doremo (talk) 18:34, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the input. The Slovene WP is not a reliable source, so there's no particular reason to follow it. The original name was the German 'Hirschthaler', therefore it does not derive from the surname 'Jelen'; also the name 'Jelenski viadukt' appears on web (e.g. [1]). "Deer Valley Viaduct" probably matches the original the closest. --Eleassar my talk 21:16, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
In that case a suitable lede would be: "The Deer Valley Viaduct (Slovene: Jelenov viadukt, also Jelenski viadukt or Dolinski most; German: Hirschthaler viadukt) is a railroad viaduct in Borovnica." The name Hirschthal is well attested in written sources for the valley (e.g., here); it would be good if a Slovene name for the valley could be found in a published source. Doremo (talk) 03:54, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Pomoč pri reviziji članka Tanja Ribič[edit]

Pozdravljen ! Prosim te za pomoč pri reviziji članka o Tanji Ribič. Nekdo ga je predlagal za izbris, morda lahko tam komentiraš v zvezi s tem in dodatno posodobiš članek. Ne vem kje se nahaja primeren slovenski portal za objavljanje člankov za izbris o slovenskih ljudeh, če nekdo predlaga tak vnos ? Ker je o Tanji le malo objavljenega na spletu v Angleškem jeziku, pri nas pa vemo, da je prepoznavna igralka in pevka, me zanima kako se v takem primeru izogniti izbrisu. Hvala za pomoč in lep pozdrav ! Prunk (talk) 20:26, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Image use[edit]

I would like to ask permission to use a photo of yours in an upcoming publication. It is an aerial view from the castle of Plecnik's University Library. It shows, form high up, the context and the small square reaching out from one corner of the building. I tis available on the web, where I have seen it.

I am an American architectural academic and am in the final stages of completing a book-length manuscript on German façade design over 400 years, from 1550 to 1950. It will be published in English in 2015 by Ashgate Press in London. The print run would be small, likely about 800--mostly sold to research libraries. The book will treat over 100 German facades, and contain about 240 images in total. The study also considers some buildings in German-speaking Switzerland and Austria. From Slovenia, I will mention this building.

May I use your image in this publication?

My name is Randall Ott, and I am Dean of the School of Architecture and Planning at Catholic University in Washington DC. I can be reached at my e-mail: ott@cua.edu — Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.242.212.98 (talk) 23:19, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi, I'm not sure which image you're actually discussing. Could you please provide a link to it? Thank you. Best, --Eleassar my talk 10:37, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Požganica[edit]

Somebody tried speedying this. Can you expand/source?♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:00, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Persistent disruption in Slovenia-related and other articles[edit]

Because you have dealt with this person in the past year, I wanted to let you know about the newly created case page at Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Velenje vandal.

You protected the Trbovlje article against disruption from this person, and you have dealt with him on your talk page. Others who have tangled with him include Doremo, Elockid, Nishidani, Alf.laylah.wa.laylah, Synthwave.94, Contributor321, Mlpearc, Tenebrae, Swarm, EnDaLeCoMpLeX, GermanJoe, DoRD, Primecoordinator, Logical Fuzz, and Sergecross73. If you take action against him in the future, you can link to this LTA case page. Binksternet (talk) 20:12, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

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Template:Commons and category-inline[edit]

Hello! I see that you created the above template. I am tracking the contributions of a user who seems to add nonsense to articles, often including the word "moon". One of those contributions was this. I suspect it should be reverted but I don't know enough about templates to be sure. Would you please take a look at it? Thanks. --MelanieN (talk) 16:38, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for having spotted this. The change was utter nonsense, I've therefore removed the new code. --Eleassar my talk 10:05, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

WikiProject Anatomy Newsletter #4[edit]

WikiProject Anatomy Newsletter #4

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Released: 1 July, 2015
Editor: Tom (LT)

Hello WikiProject Anatomy participant! This is the fourth update, documenting what's going on in WikiProject Anatomy, news, current projects and other items of interest. We've had a quiet time over the last half-year or so, so I've slowed down the release of this newsletter and will probably release the next one around the end of the year. If you'd like to provide some feedback, if you think I've missed something, or don't wish to receive this again, please leave a note on my talkpage or remove your name from the mailing list

What's new
What's going on
The vermiform appendix, seen in the bottom left and the cause of much anguish when inflammed, stirs up an interesting discussion.
  • Should Vermiform appendix be retitled to its more common name (Appendix)? The discussion continues!
  • A large number of "back end" changes are made, and integration with Wikidata continues -- see the focus for more.
  • Our set of cranial nerve-related articles receive a review by a subject expert
How can I contribute?
Our articles on the 13 12 cranial nerves receive a review from a subject expert
Issue focus - technical changes

This issue was originally going to focus on how far we've come as a project. However, that encouraging news can wait until next issue, as there are simply too many changes going on at the "back end" of our project not to write about. What do I mean by "back end"? I mean changes that are not necessarily visible to readers, but may have a significant impact on the way we edit or on future edits.

Templates

A number of visible changes have been made to our templates. Firstly, the way our templates have been linked together has changed. Previously, this was a small bar with single-letter links. This has been replaced by a light-coloured box contained within all our templates with fully-worded links, which provides links to relevant anatomy and medical templates. This should make life a lot easier, particularly for students and other readers who are struggling with the vastness of anatomical systems and their related diseases and treatments.

As part of this, almost all our templates have been reviewed and cleaned up. The previously confusing colour scheme has been removed and colour standardised. The titles have been simplified. References to "identifiers" in the titles of navigation boxes (such as Gray's Anatomy and Terminologia Anatomica numbers) have been removed. Where possible, the wiki-code of templates has been updated to give a cleaner, more standardised, format that is hopefully more friendly to new editors. The cleanup continues , please feel free to contribute or propose templates which need attention.

Anatomy infobox

Most of our articles have an infobox. Previously, there were 11 separate infoboxes for different fields, such as muscles, nerves and embryology. These have been united so that at the "back end", every template will take formatting directly from the main anatomy infobox -- however at the "front end", there is little difference for readers. This will make future changes much easier -- including adding new fields, formatting, and reordering the contents. Several changes have already been made: infoboxes now link to a relevant anatomical terminology article; contents are now divided into 'Identifiers' and 'Details' headings, making it easier to grasp content for new readers; and new fields have been added, including Greek and UBERON, with several more under discussion.

External links

An editor has reviewed all our template-based external links. These are the links that often fill the "External links" category, and sometimes used as citations. At least thirty different links sets, with the number of links stretching into the thousands, have been fixed, and if not functioning, deleted. A number of non-functioning dead links (with no archived websites available), and one or two others, have been deleted. This helps keep our 'external links' section relevant and functioning for those readers who want extra information about articles.

Wikidata

Perhaps our most important change has been integration with Wikidata. This is because of both its current uses and potential future uses. Wikidata is a service related to Wikipedia focusing on storing information. Data relating to a Wikipedia item (such as a muscle or bone, or even a template) can have related "structured" infomation stored systematically alongside it. For example, a muscle can have information about its embryological origin, nerve supply, and the relevant sections of Terminologica Anatomica (TA) stored alongside it. Much information that was stored within articles on infoboxes is now stored on Wikidata, including the TA, TH, and TE fields. An immediate benefit is that Wikipedias in every language will (as they update their own infoboxes, be able to automatically include this information. New data can be entered in a much easier format, and data can be batch entered by bots making future updates much easier Future uses include data visualisation. I personally am looking forward to the day when a reader can view a wikidata-based "tree", clicking mesoderm and seeing all of the derived structures, then selecting the intermediate mesoderm, then Pronephric duct, mesonephric duct and vas deferens. The possibilities of using Wikidata for data visualisation are really quite encouraging!

Our next issue will focus on how far WikiProject Anatomy has come in the past 2 years.

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Šmarna gora[edit]

Please rename Mount Saint Mary back to Šmarna gora as this is official name, far from what was literally translated.

Proposed deletion of Stasis (medicine)[edit]

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Letalnica bratov Gorišek[edit]

This is full and official name of the hill. It would be different if hill wouldn't have any official name. Anyway it doesn't make any sense, it's just literal translation and this name is not established at all. Everyone around Europe knows it as Letalnica and all wikipedias has letalnica in their title. You can't just change name. Janne Ahonen is Janne Ahonen and nothing else. Goldeberger is Goldberger not Goldhill. Any check other hills. Established in their original languages on all wikipedias. For example: Vogtlandarena, Große Olympiaschanze, Gross-Titlis-Schanze, Wielka Krokiew, Vikersundbakken etc. Just leave the title they way it is. Planica is well known. It's perfectly fine. Thanks. Sportomanokin (talk) 16:52, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Patria case[edit]

Pozdravljen. Glede na to, da je zadeva Patria že kar nekaj časa končana, kar se tiče sojenja, bi te prosil, da stran temu primerno dopolniš. Članek o Patrii (poglavje o sojenju v Sloveniji) je že precej zastarel in skoraj v ničemer več ne ustreza dejanskemu stanju. Hvala vnaprej. LP JakobZ (talk) 17:23, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Mogoče ob priliki, trenutno sem precej zaposlen z drugim delom. Članek lahko sicer dopolniš tudi kar sam. --Eleassar my talk 18:33, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Requesting guidance[edit]

Hi,

First of all thanks for one of recent reverts to one of my edit to article Candle-pole. Actually when I started name of the article Poles in mythology was some thing different, due to some misunderstanding some one changed name of the article to Poles in mythology. Actually I wanted to cover cultural aspects and festive celebrations as an umbrella article and wanted to have historical mythological, worships wherever concerned as a small part.

Poles in mythology is altogether a different subject when I am doing research and writing cultural aspects of festive celebrations are also coming up simultaneously and I am coming to a conclusion that for covering cultural aspects of festive celebrations of 'pole' we need to have a separate umbrella article altogether so we will not have more confusions and misunderstandings.

Please let me know your openion and if you are positive to my suggessions what should be the new articles name ?

Looking forward to your reply

Thanks and Rgds

Mahitgar (talk) 11:22, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Mahitgar. First, it's great that you've created this article. In general, it would be good to link it with candle-pole. However, I've undone your change as the article is not related to mythology in any way. Perhaps it would be better to rename it to 'Poles in traditional culture', 'Poles in folklore' or something along this line. Then we can also link it from 'candle-pole'. What do you think? --Eleassar my talk 11:48, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Ya it's a very good suggession, I will place on article talk page and look for some consensus.

Thanks and warm regards

Mahitgar (talk) 00:55, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Unilateral move of the Ljudski vrt article name[edit]

Hi. Once again you have made an unsubstantiated and unilateral move of the Ljudski vrt article's name to the "People's Garden Stadium". I have reverted all of your edits as you have no basis, no arguments and no consensus for such moves. I have also presented my arguments (something that you continuously fail to do) in the article's talk page. This has been the second time (that I know of) that you have made this very same move of the article in question. If there will be a third then I will be forced to consider your actions as an act of persistent vandalism and will take further measures to avoid this in the future. Regards, Ratipok (talk) 23:34, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the message and the explanation of the move. I have read and understood it. I again urge you to read Wikipedia:Assume good faith before accusing people of vandalism. Best, --Eleassar my talk 20:57, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Bridges over the Drava[edit]

"the categories 'Bridges in Slovenia' and 'Bridges in Croatia' should include this category until someone creates 'Bridges over the Drava in Slovenia' and 'Bridges over the Drava in Croatia'"[2]. Why so? If the category is not precise enough, why not add either "Bridges in Slovenia" or "Bridges in Croatia" to individual articles? The categories are supposed to be both objective and exact. They codify statements about member articles, so it is definitely not OK to use them so that untrue statements are inferred (e.g. that certain bridge is in Slovenia when it isn't, or that all bridges over the Drava are simultaneously in Slovenia and Croatia, as your edit seems to imply). GregorB (talk) 16:05, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

As you may see, the articles in the Category:Bridges in Slovenia are sorted by river, city etc.. It's some kind of metacategory. I don't think it is necessary to infer anything here. --Eleassar my talk 16:13, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Generic components[edit]

Thanks for your recent edits. I've restored capitalization to the typical English pattern for items such as the Trenta Valley; when a generic element is optionally added to a proper name it is generally treated as part of the name and is capitalized the usual way (examples: the Ozarks / the Ozark Mountains, Okefenokee / Okefenokee Swamp). The cited Slovenian thesis specifically states "I have decided to propose my own rules for the use of capital ... letters" (p. 20), and so it can't be taken as authoritative (it also contains significant grammatical and orthographic errors in English). One authoritative source is, for example, The Chicago Manual of Style: "Names of mountains, rivers, oceans, islands, and so forth are capitalized. The generic term (mountain, etc.) is also capitalized when used as part of the name" (16th ed., § 8.52). Doremo (talk) 03:42, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. What about 'Nebotičnik skyscraper'? Is it recommended to write the word 'skyscraper' next to Nebotičnik and if it is, should it be capitalized? --Eleassar my talk 07:35, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
I'd probably call it the Nebotičnik Building or the Skyscraper because skyscraper is an unlikely generic (cf. the Chrysler Building and similar names at Category:Art Deco skyscrapers). When a generic element is optional, the basic capitalization pattern would be "The Mississippi is ...", "The Mississippi River is ...", "The Mississippi is a river ..."; following this pattern, the natural pattern would be: "Nebotičnik is ...", "The Nebotičnik Building is ...", "Nebotičnik is a skyscraper ...", "The Skyscraper is a building ...", etc. Doremo (talk) 07:52, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Ok, thank you. Although, interestingly, most of sources write is as 'the Nebotičnik building'... --Eleassar my talk 08:09, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
I added some sources (and then self-reverted) at Nebotičnik; you're welcome to reuse them if you make the move. Doremo (talk) 08:25, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Here, one has the explanation that says the same as the thesis: "The Rocky and Appalachian mountain ranges.” In this case, the term “mountain ranges” is used as a descriptive common phrase, so it is not capitalized. In contrast, the term “Mountains” in “the Rocky and Appalachian Mountains” is capitalized because it is used as part of a proper name." --Eleassar my talk 08:21, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Regarding The Rocky and Appalachian mountain ranges, this is probably made possible through modified ellipsis (i.e., < the Rocky Mountains and the Appalachian Mountains); both Rocky and Appalachian are adjectives, and so this probably obligates the noun to follow regardless of whether it is considered part of the name (i.e., one can say the Rockies and the Appalachians but not *the Rocky and the Appalachian). Otherwise it would have to be written the mountain ranges of the Rockies and the Appalachians (i.e., with noun forms, similar to this). Doremo (talk) 08:40, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Or at Capitalization: "Capitalize generic geographic terms that are part of a place name (Atlantic Ocean, Mt. Muztagata, River Severn). Otherwise, do not capitalize a generic term that follows a capitalized generic term (Yangtze River valley)." --Eleassar my talk 08:32, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
There is variation; here are two others (Example 1, Example 2). Some of the principles listed at the WP Capitalization page vary or have changed; for example "Use lower case for plurals of generic terms (Gobi and Taklamakan deserts)" was changed to the "Gobi and Taklamakan Deserts" pattern in the most recent edition of The Chicago Manual of Style. Doremo (talk) 08:49, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

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Article upgrade assistance request (Pre-translation stage)[edit]

Seasons Greetings,

This is in reference to a relatively new umbrella article on en-wikipedia named Ceremonial pole. Ceremonial pole is a human tradition since ancient times; either existed in past at some point of time, or still exists in some cultures across global continents from north to south & from east to west. Ceremonial poles are used to symbolize a variety of concepts in several different world cultures.

Through article Ceremonial pole we intend to take encyclopedic note of cultural aspects and festive celebrations around Ceremonial pole as an umbrella article and want to have historical, mythological, anthropological aspects, reverence or worships wherever concerned as a small part.

While Ceremonial poles have a long past and strong presence but usually less discussed subject. Even before we seek translation of this article in global languages, we need to have more encyclopedic information/input about Ceremonial poles from all global cultures and languages. And we seek your assistance in the same.

Since other contributors to the article are insisting for reliable sources and Standard native english; If your contributions get deleted (for some reason like linguistics or may be your information is reliable but unfortunately dosent match expectations of other editors) , please do list the same on Talk:Ceremonial pole page so that other wikipedians may help improve by interlanguage collaborations, and/or some other language wikipedias may be interested in giving more importance to reliablity of information over other factors on their respective wikipedia.

This particular request is being made to you since your user name is listed in Wikipedia:Translators available list.

Thanking you with warm regards Mahitgar (talk) 06:03, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

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Signing the cookie[edit]

Hello Eleassar, you have left me a cookie in 2010 on User:Prunk/Vitrina. Could you please sign it with your username ? Thank you -- Prunk (talk) 18:27, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Done. --Eleassar my talk 20:38, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

Unsourced, undiscussed, unexplained, unilateral page moves[edit]

Please immediately stop unilaterally moving around articles without giving an explanation, a source for your sometimes adventurous, unsourced and undiscussed translations from Slovene.
How can you explain moving Ljubljana National Drama Theatre to Ljubljana Slovene National Theatre Drama, then to Ljubljana Slovene National Theatre Drama, if the theatre on its official website refers to itself as the Slovenian National Theatre Drama Ljubljana?
How can you explain moving Government and Presidential Palace (Ljubljana) to Government Building and President's Office if the former is the literal translation and the latter awkward translation basically gives not a single Google result? Same with Brutti Mansion, Almerigogna Mansion, Gravisi-Barbabianca Mansion or (almost) with Gruber Mansion.
Please stop now and have all your unilateral moves reviewed and discussed! Thanks, PanchoS (talk) 00:36, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

I have discussed this with a knowledgeable native speaker at User talk:Doremo. In regard to the Drama, English word order differs from Slovene word order: specific elements precede the generic ones. Similar for the President's Office and the Gruber Mansion: established English terms differ from Slovene, and one should not translate names literally without knowing their established usage and connotations in the target language. The established terms in English are 'President's Office' and 'Mansion', whereas the word 'palace' sounds awkwardly grandiose. --Eleassar my talk 07:51, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
No hard feelings, and sorry for last night's post's slightly overstrung tone. Your page moves came one by one, and I feared this would go on without a reprieve.
Now, more calmly, I'm however not convinced by your explanation. Word order is different in almost every language, but I fail to understand how this would affect the title of Drama Ljubljana. Whatever you may have discussed privately with Doremo, authoritative discussions usually take place on an article's talk page. Also, the result of your discussion seems to be blatant WP:OR. If there is not a single indication of Government Building and President's Office being used by WP:RS, then it clearly isn't an established English name of that building. If you personally think that "palace" sounds too grandiose, then start an offline campaign trying to convince government, mass-media and other to use a different translation. Until then, we are generally bound to whatever our sources predominantly use, not ruling out certain exceptions if backed by our policies and a local consensus. If you don't, I guess I have to start one-by-one move requests for some of the articles now. Regards, PanchoS (talk) 15:18, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
Yes, no problem. Our sources use a number of ways to translate these names, so it is hard to establish any one of them as predominant. Additionally, they're written by non-native speakers, which hardly makes them authoritative in any way in regard to the language and style. That's why I've consulted a user about whom I know he has a good (expert, I believe) grasp of English. I'd appreciate if you have a look at Doremo's arguments and post your disagreement also there if you feel so inclined. -Eleassar my talk 15:39, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
Of course, most Slovene journalists, authors or government officials won't be native speakers of English. This doesn't matter all too much for us, though, unless a particular translation is outright absurd. I took a look at your "discussion" and have to say that I couldn't find any argument at all. You asked, and Doremo answered: "write this and that". Sorry, but that's no discussion. Doremo may be good in translating from Slovene to English, but we're not looking for translations – we're looking for the predominantly used names in English-language sources. --PanchoS (talk) 23:38, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
Doremo has clearly explained the predominant usage in reliable sources with analogous cases and has even provided a statistics page. --Eleassar my talk 08:54, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
Oops, you're right, I missed the larger talk section there. Still, sources have not been checked on a case-by-case basis. I agree that translating palača Pošte to "Post Palace" would be very strange, but neither do any sources. It's clearly not Doremo's fault, who gave you good translations, but for article titles about topics with plenty of English-language sources, "homebrewn" translations are simply not the way to go. --PanchoS (talk) 11:03, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

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Kobilje Stream[edit]

I'm really sorry, I've just re-moved this article back to Kobilje (stream), not realising you'd reverted my earlier move. I'm sure it looks like I'm being difficult, but I genuinely mean to enter into a "move war". I did think it looked familiar though! Bermicourt (talk) 18:55, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

So my logic was simply following the Wiki convention at the River project, rivers and streams in Europe are normally known just by their name. If we need to disambiguate them, we usually use brackets either with "river" or "stream" or, if there are 2 rivers of the same name, with the "parent river". It's only in the US or UK that River or Stream are officially part of the name. And Sri Lanka, so I was told recently! Bermicourt (talk) 18:58, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
Kobilje as an adjective can't be a self-standing name, in the similar vein as Black can't be a self-standing name - it becomes sensible only by adding the word Creek/Stream/River. --Eleassar my talk 19:18, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
I think that Bermicourt has misunderstood the structure of the Slovenian name in this case. Kobiljski potok (or Kobiljanski potok) is an adjective + noun structure, and the generic is part of the name in the endonym. If this structure is mirrored in the English article, then a generic should also appear in the English name. The move to Kobilje is structurally equivalent to moving Lake Bled to Bled, which is also an adjective + noun structure in the endonym (Blejsko jezero) and would be inappropriate. Doremo (talk) 19:20, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

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Melania Trump[edit]

Hi, you probably didn't notice that there was a talk page discussion related to this edit. Perhaps you'd like to weigh in there. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 20:08, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I haven't. I've expressed my opinion in the edit summary. --Eleassar my talk 20:12, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

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Time dilation[edit]

Hello,

You added "core of the Earth 2.5 years younger than the crust".

Isn't it obvious that it leads to a paradox of alignement with celestial sphere due to rotation of earth?

Thanks. 178.199.174.242 (talk) 19:14, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

I'm not an expert in time dilation. I suggest that you pick this up at the talk page of the concerned article. --Eleassar my talk 10:26, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:WikiProject Europe/The 10,000 Challenge[edit]

Hi, can I interest you in this or a 1000 Challenge for Slovenia?♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:42, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

Yugoslavia/Slovenia[edit]

LP, vidim da si ti avtor nekaterih kategorij (npr. Category:1954 establishments in Slovenia itd.), pa me zanima katera kategorija se naj uporablja za športne klube, "19xx establishments in Yugoslavia" ali "19xx establishments in Slovenia" ? Ker nekateri roboti premaknejo vse kategorije "in Slovenia" v "in Yugoslavia" za letnice pred 1991. 86.58.36.145 (talk) 18:39, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Ne vem, kateri roboti in zakaj. Meni se zdi sicer 19xx establishments in Slovenia najbolj smiselno. --Eleassar my talk 20:18, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Europe 10,000 Challenge invite[edit]

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Two-Factor Authentication now available for admins[edit]

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WikiProject Anatomy newsletter #5[edit]

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Hello WP:Anatomy participant! This is our fifth newsletter, documenting what's going on in WikiProject Anatomy, news, current projects and other items of interest. There hasn't been too much worthy of news, and I have less time to dedicate to this project, so I've slowed down the release of this newsletter.

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A new user right for New Page Patrollers[edit]

Hi Eleassar.

A new user group, New Page Reviewer, has been created in a move to greatly improve the standard of new page patrolling. The user right can be granted by any admin at PERM. It is highly recommended that admins look beyond the simple numerical threshold and satisfy themselves that the candidates have the required skills of communication and an advanced knowledge of notability and deletion. Admins are automatically included in this user right.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Suffusion[edit]

Hello Eleassar,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Suffusion for deletion. This has been done under section G6 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an unnecessary disambiguation page.

If you feel that the page shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Onel5969 TT me 02:07, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Edit for me[edit]

Hi please edit to add that Melania Trump has a child. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.155.231.74 (talk) 19:56, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

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References[edit]

Remember that when adding content about health, please only use high-quality reliable sources as references. We typically use review articles, major textbooks and position statements of national or international organizations (There are several kinds of sources that discuss health: here is how the community classifies them and uses them). WP:MEDHOW walks you through editing step by step. A list of resources to help edit health content can be found here. The edit box has a built-in citation tool to easily format references based on the PMID or ISBN. We also provide style advice about the structure and content of medicine-related encyclopedia articles. The welcome page is another good place to learn about editing the encyclopedia. If you have any questions, please feel free to drop me a note below. Jytdog (talk) 01:31, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

Ok, I've replaced the ref with a ref to the scientific journal. It's a primary source, but the referenced guideline states: "If conclusions are worth mentioning (such as large RCTs with surprising results), they should be described appropriately as from a single study. Given time a review will be published, and the primary sources should preferably be exchanged for the review." --Eleassar my talk 01:35, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
This study is not MEDRS or MEDREV compliant because it is a primary result which is not corroborated by existing literature that chili peppers or capsaicin "prevent" (as you stated) heart disease and/or stroke (of course, there is no such evidence). As an NHANES analysis, it is a survey-feeding study which is wrought with problems for pinpointing specific dietary factors that may affect diseases = evidence of its weakness and primary research status, violating MEDREV. --Zefr (talk) 02:01, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
Ok, thank you for the explanation. --Eleassar my talk 02:04, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
Thanks! In general we are conservative with regard to health claims.  :) Jytdog (talk) 02:42, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
@Zefr and Jytdog: I see that the article 'Chili pepper' mentions the 2015 cohort study carried out in China (and there is also mention of a 2010 study). Should this material be removed? What about the mention of this 2017 study in the article 2017 in science? Should the study be removed from that article too? --Eleassar my talk 10:52, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
My opinion is that section needs to be retitled as "Research" and rewritten to clearly state the content is preliminary work-in-progress only, and could include the study you used. As I stated in my edit note, however, there can't be a direct line between chili peppers-capsaicin-health benefits because capsaicin was not specifically isolated and so can't be proven as the only causative factor of what the studies observed. Further, your words, "consumption of hot red chili peppers, presumably due to capsaicin, positively affects human health, particularly as to the prevention of myocardial infarction (heart attack) and cerebrovascular insult (stroke)" (and reduced mortality, as stated by the authors), need retooling in the section rewrite as WP:PRIMARY research. Let's hear from Jytdog then proceed with a rewrite, which I volunteer to undertake. --Zefr (talk) 16:50, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

Mass graves[edit]

Do not revert deleted mass grave content. It was agreed one year ago with other authors, that every village can not have only mass grave content! This is political frustration. Changing our decision is violation of Wikipedia rules. We can not have this conversation all over again.Grabyton (talk) 21:58, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Kucja Valley is not a village but a locality in Ljubljana known particularly for mass graves. --Eleassar my talk 22:05, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

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