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* '''Concur:''' I listed the article for a deletion discussion yesterday. After reviewing additional sources, I have come to the conclusion that it likely meets the basic notability guidelines. However, everything other than the lead has elements of plagiarism and copyvio. We should make into a stub with just the sourced lead. [[User:Nick Pascal|Nick Pascal]] ([[User talk:Nick Pascal|talk]]) 05:50, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
* '''Concur:''' I listed the article for a deletion discussion yesterday. After reviewing additional sources, I have come to the conclusion that it likely meets the basic notability guidelines. However, everything other than the lead has elements of plagiarism and copyvio. We should make into a stub with just the sourced lead. [[User:Nick Pascal|Nick Pascal]] ([[User talk:Nick Pascal|talk]]) 05:50, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
* '''Of course''' - Sources are fine, but a lot of the content isn't appropriately supported by the references. <span style="13px Sylfaen;color:white;background-color:#000000;padding:0 3px 0 3px;">☺&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User:Salvidrim!|<span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;"><span style="color:white">Salvidrim!</span></span>]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:Salvidrim!|<span style="color:white">&#9993;</span>]]</span> 05:56, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
* '''Of course''' - Sources are fine, but a lot of the content isn't appropriately supported by the references. <span style="13px Sylfaen;color:white;background-color:#000000;padding:0 3px 0 3px;">☺&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User:Salvidrim!|<span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;"><span style="color:white">Salvidrim!</span></span>]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:Salvidrim!|<span style="color:white">&#9993;</span>]]</span> 05:56, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

=="Since 2010, SpeedRunsLive has teamed up with Speed Demos Archive to host live marathons"...==

As per the edit comment I feel it is best to discuss this here rather than start an edit war. The idea the SpeedRunsLive 'team up with' SpeedDemosArchive to host the 'GDQ marathons is incorrect; the marathons are organized solely by SDA and whilst SRL members may attend or even volunteer to help out at these marathons, SpeedRunsLive has absolutly nothing to do with their inception or organization of such marathons. Even the reference cited does not actively mention SRL in such a role. [[User:Skullbird11|Skullbird11]] ([[User talk:Skullbird11|talk]]) 17:22, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

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This page should not be speedy deleted because...

This page should not be speedily deleted because... (I am still working on the article, i only used another article for a template, the finished article will have citations and will look proper.) --Hamza725 (talk) 01:52, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the speedy deletion template as the claim to significance "world record speedrunner" has been satisfied for the purposes of CSD A7, however the article may still be deleted due to poor sourcing. I've suggested on your talkpage that you move it and save it as a draft elsewhere. TeleComNasSprVen (talkcontribs) 02:43, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
This discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedy deleted as pure vandalism or a blatant hoax, because... (I only used other information for a template, the finished article will not look like a hoax) --Hamza725 (talk) 01:53, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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This page should not be speedy deleted as pure vandalism or a blatant hoax, because... (your reason here) --80.111.71.69 (talk) 02:16, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedy deleted as pure vandalism or a blatant hoax, because what is stated is true. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.108.195.19 (talk) 02:17, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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This page should not be speedy deleted as pure vandalism or a blatant hoax, because... (your reason here) --69.17.170.114 (talk) 02:29, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Cosmo is a shit speedrunner and nothing is speedy about him

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This page should not be speedy deleted as pure vandalism or a blatant hoax, because... (your reason here) --74.192.220.23 (talk) 02:33, 28 January 2014 (UTC) This man is actually legit in case some of wikipedia people didnt know. Sure this isnt complete by any means but dont delete he created a huge online community and deserves credit[reply]

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This page should not be speedy deleted as pure vandalism or a blatant hoax, because the information written in it is true, it can be gotten from Cosmos'Twitch channel as well from SpeedRunsLive.

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This page should not be speedy deleted as pure vandalism or a blatant hoax, because... Cosmo Wright is real --95.176.45.181 (talk) 02:34, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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This page should not be speedy deleted as pure vandalism or a blatant hoax, because SpeedRunsLive has hosted charity stream that have raised totals of over 1 million dollars for different charities and non-profits. This would not be possible if Cosmo did not help co-found SpeedRunsLive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.41.120.105 (talk) 02:37, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because... (Cosmo is notable for holding world records in multiple popular games, many of which are listed on the wikipedia page "games notable for speedrunning".) --Hamza725 (talk) 02:47, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the speedy deletion template as the claim to significance "world record speedrunner" has been satisfied for the purposes of CSD A7, however the article may still be deleted due to poor sourcing. I've suggested on your talkpage that you move it and save it as a draft elsewhere. TeleComNasSprVen (talkcontribs) 02:43, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Are World Record Speedrunners important?

Every game that has been run has a world record, possibly more. The records listed on this page have all been held by multiple people. As for SpeedRunsLive: The website is mostly a stream listing and an IRC Bot. Are these relevant enough to justify a page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.171.199.57 (talk) 03:24, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the article should say, I mean it's well referenced. I feel Wright is notible not just 'because he has a world record', but also because he has been able to make a living off of it, and due to this, has had significant coverage in the gaming press and further afield 193.61.255.84 (talk) 12:08, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I feel the same way. However, notability on Wikipedia cannot be established by our feelings. The articles references are dodgy, and hardly meet the policy on reliable sources. The article looks good otherwise, so if more reliable sources could be found to establish the notability of the subject, the article should be fine. ~ twsx | talkcont | ~ 12:11, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

See comparison. Simply changing some of the words will not do. This must be mended quickly. I'll be so bold as to ping @Thehack771 and @Hamza725 as they are the major contributors to the article. ~ twsx | talkcont | ~ 22:23, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The text wording has changed and been abbreviated with sections now being condensed to focus more on Cosmo himself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hamza725 (talkcontribs) 23:26, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Unreliable sources - proposal

  • Proposal- that this article be stubified back to what is contained in the lead and the keep the reliable sources. Almost the entire content after the lead is unsourced. Flat Out let's discuss it 05:40, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Concur: I listed the article for a deletion discussion yesterday. After reviewing additional sources, I have come to the conclusion that it likely meets the basic notability guidelines. However, everything other than the lead has elements of plagiarism and copyvio. We should make into a stub with just the sourced lead. Nick Pascal (talk) 05:50, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Of course - Sources are fine, but a lot of the content isn't appropriately supported by the references. ☺ · Salvidrim! ·  05:56, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"Since 2010, SpeedRunsLive has teamed up with Speed Demos Archive to host live marathons"...

As per the edit comment I feel it is best to discuss this here rather than start an edit war. The idea the SpeedRunsLive 'team up with' SpeedDemosArchive to host the 'GDQ marathons is incorrect; the marathons are organized solely by SDA and whilst SRL members may attend or even volunteer to help out at these marathons, SpeedRunsLive has absolutly nothing to do with their inception or organization of such marathons. Even the reference cited does not actively mention SRL in such a role. Skullbird11 (talk) 17:22, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]