Talk:The Dark Knight Rises

Does Selina kidnap?

Please read the above discussion, which outlines the issue and my initial response (along with that of one other contributor). Basically, I'm asking if the actions taken by Selina early in the movie amount to kidnapping the congressman or not. Your opinions are appreciated! Also, I've set up a straw poll to gauge general feelings as well as discussion. Cheers!  drewmunn  talk  11:52, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Straw poll

Do Selina's actions amount to kidnap?

This poll is about Selina's behavior, NOT the police investigation of the Congressman's disappearance, nor the unspecified charges he presses afterwards. Please base your answers on Selina's on-screen actions, not what the police say about her afterwards. --Ben Culture (talk) 22:11, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

• Yes: See my reasoning on the above section, where the definition of "kidnap" is deconstructed by myself and later GregJackP. From a legal standpoint, what is shown on screen is kidnap.  drewmunn  talk  11:57, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

• Of course not. We see no evidence that the congressman is drunk (we don't see him take A SINGLE DRINK), on drugs, or otherwise coerced. Selina makes no use of force, does not hold him captive, and does not demand a ransom. The charges he later presses against her (we are not told) are more likely to be reckless endangerment than kidnapping. You can't say the Congressman was kidnapped without engaging in speculation about what might have happened off-screen. As it should go without saying, just because the police treat it as a kidnapping case does not mean it actually IS a kidnapping. --Ben Culture (talk) 12:30, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

• Yes, per the movie, screenplay, and reliable sources noted in my comment above. GregJackP Boomer! 12:37, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

• Yes, per "Get me Commissioner Gordon, I've got a line on the congressman's kidnapping." DonQuixote (talk) 12:44, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

• Yes - The kidnapping is the only specific crime the police mention, plus they respond directly to the correlation to the Congressman by confirming he is pressing charges. DarthBotto _talk•cont 18:19, 04 September 2013 (UTC)
• Yes All the legal arguing is simply real world perspective that is not appropriate here and amounts to original research, IDHT and synthesis. The script is clear, the film is clear and as noted above several sources also show the information. A single person seems to have requested this RFC in a manner that could be seen as disruptive. This could be closed under a snow ball clause.--Mark Miller (talk) 00:23, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
• Yes - But seriously- is this worth an RFC. Why to I feel like I am evesdropping on an argument on the sidewalk outside a ComicCon convention? Elmmapleoakpine (talk) 00:53, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
• Yes I mean, I only saw the movie back last year and haven't watched my Blu-ray yet, but if it is generally described and seen as a kidnapping in the film, without any disputing of it then it was a kidnapping. Should criticism of this characterization be available in reliable sources then it may merit some mention, though I doubt it is a noteworthy criticism.--The Devil's Advocate _{tlk. cntrb.} 00:23, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Kidnapping

I corrected the article based on the consensus in the RfC, above. GregJackP Boomer! 17:32, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

It sounds to me like the dissenter is actually right. The fact that characters in the movie call it kidnapping doesn't necessarily mean that the movie depicts a kidnapping, if the characters in the movie are not depicted as knowing what's going on. Ken Arromdee (talk) 04:08, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Could be, though I doubt it. In any event, the community reached consensus that the sources supported the term "kidnapping." GregJackP Boomer! 05:01, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Barsad links to Deadshot.

Is there any particular reason why Barsad's name links to the DC character Deadshot? The character is not identified as such in the film, and such a link is misleading. If I am wrong, please cite. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bibleandbandana (talk • contribs) 15:05, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

I believe this was discussed previously, although it is in contravention of WP:EGG, so unless anyone can provide a counter to that, it should go.  drewmunn  talk  18:36, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Fix link please

In the next to the last paragraph in the Filming section - the 4th paragraph - this sentence appears:

While filming scenes in Pittsburgh, Hathaway's stunt double crashed into an IMAX camera while filming a sequence that required her to ride a [[Batcycle#The Dark Knight Rises|Batpod]] down a flight of stairs during a riot.

In order to work properly, the wikilink should be changed to this:

While filming scenes in Pittsburgh, Hathaway's stunt double crashed into an IMAX camera while filming a sequence that required her to ride a [[Batcycle#The_Dark_Knight_and_The_Dark_Knight_Rises|Batpod]] down a flight of stairs during a riot. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.16.85.205 (talk) 04:48, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for spotting that. DonQuixote (talk) 13:42, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing it. - 173.16.85.205 (talk) 02:53, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

82.15.121.176 (talk) 22:55, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Box office

Uh, really? Box office of Dark Knight Rises is $1,084 million ? Why can't just put it in billion? very confusing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.101.97.74 (talk) 04:35, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

I am fine with either 1.084 billion or 1,084 million. As to why here are a couple reasons: 1,084 million is less ambiguous: to some a billion is one million million instead of one thousand million as it is in the US. Also most accounting numbers are in terms of millions so this makes comparisons easier.AbramTerger (talk) 14:13, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Question

Was it ever explain why CIA would shoot a man, before throwing him out of a plane? 201.210.249.61 (talk) 22:43, 31 May 2014 (UTC)