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:::{{ping|Dontreader}} thanks its better that way then :) And on another thing, I realized I had probably encountered you before regarding some one adding unreliable fanweb links in "4 Minutes". Or was it someone else? :) —[[User:IndianBio|<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF"><big><b>Indian:</b></big><font color="#FF033E">'''BIO'''</font></font>]] · <sup>[ [[User talk:IndianBio|<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0"><b>ChitChat</b></font>]] ]</sup> 04:15, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Dontreader}} thanks its better that way then :) And on another thing, I realized I had probably encountered you before regarding some one adding unreliable fanweb links in "4 Minutes". Or was it someone else? :) —[[User:IndianBio|<font size="2" face="Courier New" color="#6F00FF"><big><b>Indian:</b></big><font color="#FF033E">'''BIO'''</font></font>]] · <sup>[ [[User talk:IndianBio|<font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#1C1CF0"><b>ChitChat</b></font>]] ]</sup> 04:15, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
::::Yes, your memory is excellent! I had a really long war with that guy (Lesser Cartographies); he was assigned as a mediator by Bgwhite for editing the [[Camille and Kennerly Kitt]] article because Duffbeerforme (who had irrationally voted to delete the article) came back several months later to make life impossible for me while editing it, so I agreed not to edit that article any more, and so far Duffbeerforme hasn't touched it either. However, although Lesser made some improvements, he was obsessed with making the article as short as possible. If you look at the lead section, it does not summarize the article, which is necessary according to [[WP:LEAD]]. You have lots of experience with biographies of living persons, and I really wish you could help me with the article, but I need permission from Bgwhite first. Please let me know. I could simply give you some important facts that are missing, and then you could decide what to do. That would be awesome! I must get some rest... best wishes... [[User:Dontreader|Dontreader]] ([[User talk:Dontreader|talk]]) 05:05, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
::::Yes, your memory is excellent! I had a really long war with that guy (Lesser Cartographies); he was assigned as a mediator by Bgwhite for editing the [[Camille and Kennerly Kitt]] article because Duffbeerforme (who had irrationally voted to delete the article) came back several months later to make life impossible for me while editing it, so I agreed not to edit that article any more, and so far Duffbeerforme hasn't touched it either. However, although Lesser made some improvements, he was obsessed with making the article as short as possible. If you look at the lead section, it does not summarize the article, which is necessary according to [[WP:LEAD]]. You have lots of experience with biographies of living persons, and I really wish you could help me with the article, but I need permission from Bgwhite first. Please let me know. I could simply give you some important facts that are missing, and then you could decide what to do. That would be awesome! I must get some rest... best wishes... [[User:Dontreader|Dontreader]] ([[User talk:Dontreader|talk]]) 05:05, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

== [[Unconditionally]] ==

I don't think the song's genre is power pop (with rock) or electronic, because it just attempt at guitar riff. I found other sources which says "much-loved pop ballad" [http://www.swide.com/art-culture/new-music-and-video-releases-this-week-november-18-including-katy-perry-unconditionally-kanye-west-bound-2-and-solange-new-single-cash-in/2013/11/23] and "Eurodisco ballad" [http://www.popmatters.com/review/175961-katy-perry-prism/]. [[Special:Contributions/183.171.174.133|183.171.174.133]] ([[User talk:183.171.174.133|talk]]) 05:53, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

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Nature Boy

I think we would probably agree that the current article is extremely poor, and I've no wish to defend it in detail. I'm happy to try to improve it, over time. Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:00, 6 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Ghmyrtle: thank you and that's what I was doing, sorry if it came across wrong. I am at present collecting information for the already present content, and adding reliable sources as I go. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 09:16, 6 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
OK, fine. The most notable version - historically - was the original one by Nat 'King' Cole, and in my view a good proportion of the text, and the infobox, should be about that. Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:18, 6 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Ghmyrtle: Agreed, the general guideline is that the first person to release a song as a single is listed in the infobox, like "Fever". Others are listed only if notable. Like a Tony Bennett and Lady Gaga version which is going to be released on September 16, 2014. I was actually waiting to collect more information on the Nat King Cole's version before adding his infobox. What do you say? —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 09:22, 6 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I'm happy for you to do whatever work you want on the article for the moment - but I'll keep an eye on it! I think there are plenty of sources that explain how Cole received the song from ahbez and recorded it - though some sources conflict with each other. There is more info at the eden ahbez article. I'm quite busy right now but will come back to it when I can. There is a usable label shot here if you want to upload it. Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:34, 6 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, that pic is more than enough confirmation to add Nat King Cole's infobox, I also found some sources. But it would be better if you let me know the contradicting sources as well. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 09:37, 6 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps it's not quite true to say that there are "conflicting" stories - it is the details that vary, I think, rather than the overall story. I'm happy for you to lead on developing the article, but I will look in and perhaps tweak, as and when necessary. Can I ask you for some advice? When you uploaded the "Nature Boy" label shot, did you use a simple standard template for cover art - and, if so, can you give me a link to it? Whenever I try to upload cover art, the process always seems excessively complicated, and I usually seem to do it incorrectly. Ghmyrtle (talk) 14:45, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Ghmyrtle: you can go to File:Nat King Cole Nature Boy.jpg, and click on the Summary sub-section. There you will see I have used {{album cover fur}} template. You can copy and keep it in a textpad in your desktop and whenever you upload a music cover, you just copy paste it, replacing artist name, article name, label name etc. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 16:44, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
As and when I think of, or uncover, additional sources, I'll add them here. This is a useful and (generally) accurate source for chart placings, confirming what is in the Joel Whitburn books. Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:00, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, that's a wonderful link. Many thanks. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 09:06, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know whether you've seen this blog - http://bcxists.wordpress.com/ I don't suggest that it's a reliable source, but it is well informed - the author clearly knew ahbez, and contributed at Talk:eden ahbez a few years ago. Some of its links may also be worth looking at. . Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:19, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Ghmyrtle: can you check and see if any information is left to be added? —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 14:13, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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DYK for Gaga (genus)

The DYK project (nominate) 14:36, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Metrolyrics isn't the only official lyric provider in the world

Hi, Im a lyrics fan and I prefer much more directlyrics to metrolyrics. You reverted my lyrics link change in the taylor swift shake it off page I just confirmed directlyrics is as official and most importantly licensed as metrolyrics You can read here: http://www.directlyrics.com/about/ They have signed deals with all major publishing companies and lyric seal (im sure metrolyrics too) On top of that they add more cool content that metrolyrics doesnt have So I think as long as a lyric website is official and licensed it can be added as external link on wikipedia without problems Please let me know your thoughts I would like to keep adding lyric links on wiki

Regards

--Wikihelperman2014 (talk) 08:27, 17 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That might be the case, however, in Wikipedia we add MetroLyrics. I would suggest you go and make a post at WP:RSN regarding this. Get it finalized once and for all. Thanks for your explanation. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 09:21, 17 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

--Wikihelperman2014 (talk) 09:21, 18 September 2014 (UTC)Hi, I got a favorable response. What do you think?[reply]

Better to wait for some days if any other user wants to comment. After that you are free to add it. You might wanna develop a template also like {{DirectLyrics}}. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 09:24, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Priyanka Chopra

It is not me so much, but someone else who will respond negatively to any removals. What parts were you thinking to delete? BollyJeff | talk 12:16, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the problem with having so many movies listed, is that editors keep adding more over time. I do think that you should take it to the talk page first. People get upset over unilateral changes to FAs. BollyJeff | talk 12:35, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Sidewalk Talk

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Elusive Chanteuse Show

Why did you delete the article for the tour? All the information was correct and had references, it just needed to be cleaned up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrbritneyfan101 (talkcontribs) 08:40, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Mrbritneyfan101:, the article absolutely did not have any reference and was just a bunch of dates. Such articles are not allowed on Wikipedia per WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Please work on it in your sandbox and then add it. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 08:45, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
How is her official website not a source? I put in there, and like I said it needed some work, but ok. Thanks...I guess. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrbritneyfan101 (talkcontribs) 08:54, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Mrbritneyfan101:, her official website is definitely a valid source, however not enough to warrant a separate article at present. Tour information will come up once she starts it, like the background info, critical response, costumes, song selection etc, why not create it then? —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 08:58, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Many tour articles are created months before the tour even starts, so why not have this one now? Besides, it starts in 11 days, not like it's a year away. I will work on the article and I'm sure you will observe it when I'm done. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrbritneyfan101 (talkcontribs) 09:01, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

To warrant a separate article, Mrbritneyfan101, it would need information from secondary sources (such as MTV, Rolling Stone, Billboard, or Entertainment Weekly) to meet WP:GNG. Primary sources (including an artist's website) are not by themselves enough to warrant articles. Snuggums (talk / edits) 19:27, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Change of rating from Billboard on album Cheek To Cheek

If you go to billboard.com and check on the album Cheek To Cheek, they rated the album 3.5 out of 5 stars. Not 3 stars. That is why I changed the article to reflect it. Also your words say to not attack and to assume good assumptions which is why I changed it and it wasn't to disrespect. If you would also check your source you will see that it is a 3.5 rating.

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.73.35.238 (talk) 20:26, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@64.73.35.238: thanks for monitoring it. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 04:56, 25 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Billboard Rating is Still Incorrect

The Billboard Rating on this album is still incorrect. It should read 3.5 Stars per the Billboard.com website and the magazine itself. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.73.35.238 (talk) 20:35, 25 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Lady Gaga's Musical Genres

Hello!
I think we are all agreed that Lady Gaga's musical genres are electropop and dance-pop. However, she has recently released a collaborative jazz standarts album Cheek to Cheek with American singer Tony Bennett. I would like to ask that why we do not add jazz to her genres. I, also, know that just one jazz album does not make her a jazz singer, however, she is able to perform jazz as well and Cheek to Cheek receives positive criticism from many critics. Therefore I think we can add jazz music to genres section in her infobox.
Best regards,
--Hagvoda (talk) 08:58, 26 September 2014 (UTC).[reply]

@Hagvoda: you answered your own question. She has professionally dabbled and released one jazz album, and its too early to label it as one of her core genres. Let's see if she still pursues it later point also, then maybe we can add it. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 09:52, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for I'm Going to Tell You a Secret

HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:02, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Lady Gaga's discography

Hello, Lady Gaga is very popular in Japan, she sells million of albums out there, and always gets great positions on charts. What about we includ it on her article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raulkul (talkcontribs) 01:28, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Bad Romance edits

Hello IndianBio,

Thanks for finding an archived version of the European Top 100 chart; however, is it just me, or does that page not show up very well? I clicked on the next archived version and it worked perfectly (for me). Also, just like you, I spotted that the Japan source was wrong (one of the dead links). I see that you replaced it but I can't find the #3 peak position. I was about to use this link to show it reached #9 instead of #3 (it's the best I could do). Please, what do you think? Thanks in advance... Dontreader (talk) 03:24, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Dontreader:, the European Hot 100 loads fine for me, maybe it is a browser issue? However feel free to replace with the next archived version. And you are correct, the Allmusic link does not show it, so thanks for pointing it out (They did use to show it). I will replace with the Billboard reference and the chart peak per source. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 03:28, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It could be a browser or configuration issue. I changed the link and now it works for me. You accidentally added a letter at the end of the Japanese link I gave you, so I corrected that. The article is better now. Thanks again! Dontreader (talk) 04:08, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Dontreader: thanks its better that way then :) And on another thing, I realized I had probably encountered you before regarding some one adding unreliable fanweb links in "4 Minutes". Or was it someone else? :) —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 04:15, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, your memory is excellent! I had a really long war with that guy (Lesser Cartographies); he was assigned as a mediator by Bgwhite for editing the Camille and Kennerly Kitt article because Duffbeerforme (who had irrationally voted to delete the article) came back several months later to make life impossible for me while editing it, so I agreed not to edit that article any more, and so far Duffbeerforme hasn't touched it either. However, although Lesser made some improvements, he was obsessed with making the article as short as possible. If you look at the lead section, it does not summarize the article, which is necessary according to WP:LEAD. You have lots of experience with biographies of living persons, and I really wish you could help me with the article, but I need permission from Bgwhite first. Please let me know. I could simply give you some important facts that are missing, and then you could decide what to do. That would be awesome! I must get some rest... best wishes... Dontreader (talk) 05:05, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think the song's genre is power pop (with rock) or electronic, because it just attempt at guitar riff. I found other sources which says "much-loved pop ballad" [1] and "Eurodisco ballad" [2]. 183.171.174.133 (talk) 05:53, 3 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]