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:::Yes. I thought of putting back the paragraphs copied from the CC-BY paper, but although a general {{tl|CC-notice}} template would make it legal, i.e. not a copyright violation, there is still the separate issue of [[WP:Plagiarism]]: the authors should be credited for their words where they are used, and I'm not sure how best to do that. [[User:JohnCD|JohnCD]] ([[User talk:JohnCD#top|talk]]) 12:42, 15 March 2015 (UTC) |
:::Yes. I thought of putting back the paragraphs copied from the CC-BY paper, but although a general {{tl|CC-notice}} template would make it legal, i.e. not a copyright violation, there is still the separate issue of [[WP:Plagiarism]]: the authors should be credited for their words where they are used, and I'm not sure how best to do that. [[User:JohnCD|JohnCD]] ([[User talk:JohnCD#top|talk]]) 12:42, 15 March 2015 (UTC) |
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::::Just to be clear (and pedantic, sorry), a general CC-notice template would not be sufficient. CC licenses require specific attribution credit if supplied, and the authors do specify at the bottom of the external article. Click on "<u>appropriate credit</u>" at http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ --[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 13:50, 15 March 2015 (UTC) |
::::Just to be clear (and pedantic, sorry), a general CC-notice template would not be sufficient. CC licenses require specific attribution credit if supplied, and the authors do specify at the bottom of the external article. Click on "<u>appropriate credit</u>" at http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ --[[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) 13:50, 15 March 2015 (UTC) |
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Hey [[User:Fuhghettaboutit|Fuhghettaboutit]] ([[User talk:Fuhghettaboutit|talk]]) and [[User:JohnCD|JohnCD]] ([[User talk:JohnCD#top|talk]]) - Thank you so much for all your effort. The article has been written by a whole range of people working in this field. We made a call on our newsletter to involve as many people as possible to get an excellent article that is not just based on the opinion of one researcher, but rather by the community. Unfortunately, it seems quite some people have used simply bits and piece from their publications. Which of course is not OK. I would really appreciate if you could keep the draft, so that we could work on it. I will try to make sure that people know that they are not allowed to copy and paste. Regarding the FrontierSin article I know the authors and I can ask them to upload the right copyright statement, if you could give me a pointer where and how to do it. |
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Thank you again for your help here. I think we can make a really strong article, when we get rid of all the copyright issues. |
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== Altaf Malik.Azad kashmir == |
== Altaf Malik.Azad kashmir == |
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Trouble putting up a afd as it says "blacklisted title"
Why Should I Love You...??? yeah I put a afd up but....the afd never went through and it said "blacklisted title" not sure what is up with that. Wgolf (talk) 16:58, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
- @Wgolf: the title blacklist doesn't like the multiple question-marks for some reason. If you write your reason in a sandbox and point me to it, I will create the AfD page for you. JohnCD (talk) 17:07, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
Here: User:Wgolf/AFD submission Wgolf (talk) 17:10, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
- Which I just realized is my actual sandbox page and I renamed it instead of putting it under sandbox/afd submission oh well! Wgolf (talk) 17:16, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
- Never mind. There you go: WP:Articles for deletion/Why Should I Love You...???. I fiddled (forged?) the signature to show yours rather than embark on an explanation of why I was creating it for you. JohnCD (talk) 17:24, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
Thanks I put a g7 on my main sandbox page so I could move the title back to that as you can see. Wgolf (talk) 17:29, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry about the mess. I didn't realize that the article title hit the blacklist when I moved it. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 19:11, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
COI editor edit warring
Would you mind giving me a hand at Aaron F. Straight. The editor with declared COI has reinstated information marked as not appropriate, and a copy vio, and refuses to discuss at talk or on his own talk page. I don't want to exceed to 3RR. Thanks Flat Out let's discuss it 11:06, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
- May be best to give him WP:ROPE on the article. I have explained CORPNAME and COI on his talk page - let's see if he takes that in. I used {{uw-username}} rather than {{uw-softerblock}}, but if he carries on without changing username, I will block. I don't see where it says the image is copyright? JohnCD (talk) 11:36, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for your help, see copyrighted image here and its marked for deletion at commons. Flat Out let's discuss it 11:43, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
The user Hassan javaid khan
Well this guy made possibly the most obvious sock puppet in history that I think you should see now: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Hassan javaid khan um yeah-since you deleted it I figured you should see that. Wgolf (talk) 19:41, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks, I've dealt with it. JohnCD (talk) 22:00, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
Natalia Revuelta Clews
Well I didn't see the edit summary and upon looking at it-it looked like yet another article written by someone just with no info (and then when they said something about Castro I was thinking that it is just another not inherited issue, oh well no harm done it seems!) Wgolf (talk) 21:19, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, that's why we have two pairs of eyes for deletion, and waiting for an admin gives a chance for it to develop. I don't know why people will post "watch-this-space" articles instead of developing in a sandbox until it looks respectable; but I see that author has been around more than ten years, and I think in the very old days it was more acceptable to throw in a sentence and leave it for others to develop. JohnCD (talk) 22:00, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
Help needed at CFD
It would be nice if you could help deal with the backlog at WP:Categories for Discussion - it goes back to December. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 20:30, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
- I'll have a look next time I have clear time to learn something new - it's not an area I am familiar with, so I will probably be back to you with questions. JohnCD (talk) 20:52, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
Thanks
Thank you for blocking this one. Best wishes DBaK (talk) 21:22, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
Soft robotics
Hey John. If some other people than infringers devoted time to this draft then to that extent it's a shame their time would be wasted upon deletion but I think it should be because it's just too tainted. I've just removed numerous additional copyvios from diverse sources and I'm not at all sure the material left is clean (I also think it would be not just cleaner but much easier for this to be built from a fresh start; working from a disjointed mess is too hard). Having a history that is so riddled with removed copyvios is also problematic.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:39, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
- @Fuhghettaboutit: maybe you're right, but:
- Seven of the eleven passages I removed were from from http://journal.frontiersin.org/article/10.3389/fbioe.2014.00003/full, which has a CC-BY license, so that a {{CC-notice}} template would make them legal.
- One of yours (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4090912/) is a copy of the same paper
- I'm pretty sure Nyanglish.com is copying from us - I found several sentences where the only Ghits were Nyanglish and the wpedia.goo.ne.jp mirror site - so that one's not a copyvio.
- That still leaves the other problems (and I haven't looked at the images yet). It seems a pity to lose all the work that has been done on compiling references. It rather depends how much work SirJamesHunt wants to put into it. If he's prepared to do a major rewrite, I would be inclined to keep the draft for him to use as a basis. Otherwise, I agree it should be deleted. Perhaps the list of references could be preserved somewhere against the day someone tries again - it's certainly a notable subject. JohnCD (talk) 22:26, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah you're right Nyanglish is some sort of English phrase search engine but most of what I removed was not from there. The CC-BY content was still a copyvio since it was being used without any attribution, much less in the manner specified by the licensors. I don't want to jump any guns if anyone is willing to take this on. Let's see what it looks like in a month.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:53, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
- Yes. I thought of putting back the paragraphs copied from the CC-BY paper, but although a general {{CC-notice}} template would make it legal, i.e. not a copyright violation, there is still the separate issue of WP:Plagiarism: the authors should be credited for their words where they are used, and I'm not sure how best to do that. JohnCD (talk) 12:42, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
- Just to be clear (and pedantic, sorry), a general CC-notice template would not be sufficient. CC licenses require specific attribution credit if supplied, and the authors do specify at the bottom of the external article. Click on "appropriate credit" at http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ --Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:50, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
- Yes. I thought of putting back the paragraphs copied from the CC-BY paper, but although a general {{CC-notice}} template would make it legal, i.e. not a copyright violation, there is still the separate issue of WP:Plagiarism: the authors should be credited for their words where they are used, and I'm not sure how best to do that. JohnCD (talk) 12:42, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah you're right Nyanglish is some sort of English phrase search engine but most of what I removed was not from there. The CC-BY content was still a copyvio since it was being used without any attribution, much less in the manner specified by the licensors. I don't want to jump any guns if anyone is willing to take this on. Let's see what it looks like in a month.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:53, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
Hey Fuhghettaboutit (talk) and JohnCD (talk) - Thank you so much for all your effort. The article has been written by a whole range of people working in this field. We made a call on our newsletter to involve as many people as possible to get an excellent article that is not just based on the opinion of one researcher, but rather by the community. Unfortunately, it seems quite some people have used simply bits and piece from their publications. Which of course is not OK. I would really appreciate if you could keep the draft, so that we could work on it. I will try to make sure that people know that they are not allowed to copy and paste. Regarding the FrontierSin article I know the authors and I can ask them to upload the right copyright statement, if you could give me a pointer where and how to do it.
Thank you again for your help here. I think we can make a really strong article, when we get rid of all the copyright issues.
Altaf Malik.Azad kashmir
Sir u deleted the page Altaf Malik.Azad kashmir and i request u to plz restore it as it is about real person. I will be thankful to u. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 42.83.85.20 (talk) 14:31, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
- It's not enough to be a real person. In order to have a Wikipedia article, a person needs to have Wikipedia:Notability, which is not a matter of saying so but has to be demonstrated by references showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." See WP:Notability (summary). The test is, have people not connected with the subject thought him significant enough to write substantial comment about?
- An article should not be about what he says about himself, but about what he has done, and what other people say about him. Read WP:Your first article for advice, find independent references, and then use the WP:Article wizard to help you make an article. JohnCD (talk) 22:44, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
Why did you delete The Crawling Book Series?
I said on the talk page that I would update it with more information, but Today I go and I find it deleted. What was missing?? AahdTahar (talk) 13:56, 16 March 2015 (UTC)AahdTahar
- @AahdTahar: your article The Crawling (Book) was deleted after a discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Crawling (Book). If you think that discussion was wrongly decided, or you have new information, you should approach the administrator who closed the discussion, user MelanieN (talk). Then, if you are not satisfied, you may apply at WP:Deletion review.
- But you will be wasting your time, because Wikipedia is quite choosy about subjects for articles. The notability requirements for a book to have an article are explained at WP:Notability (books), particularly the section WP:BKTS. Also, Wikipedia is not a place for people to write about their own books, even notable ones, for reasons explained at Wikipedia is not about YOU. You may get some ideas at Wikipedia:Alternative outlets for places where you could write about your book. JohnCD (talk) 14:15, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
Nakulmehra (talk) 06:34, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Draft:Suraj Gowda
I had go through all your suggested links and I had understand your notability requirements. I feel the subject meets your requirements because I had mentioned all the verifiable evidence and also it's outside of Wikipedia as per notability guidelines. And he is a celebrity so also it's not a permastub. Our references are from good news sources and net blogs as mentioned in Wiki guideleines. So plz re-consider it. Thankyou.