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Reversions Ian Fleming

The information that you, so kindly revised!, was new source material, I have now sourced this CORRECT information to the best of my ability (not being an html pro) and as such information is not simply avaliable at a simple web link! so don't go randomly revoking good peoples' work! Tad102 (talk) 18:10, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly, It was not "random"; I am a co-author of the article and so it is therefore on my watch list. Secondly, the "revised" [sic] information you are trying to add is just fluff and maybe contrary to the primary source. Thirdly, if you are unsure of the correct format, then you should ask first on the talk page then add in the correct format. Fourthly, don't come to my talk page and be pointy as it wins you no favours. Based on all that, you have again been reverted. Thanks. Cassianto^Talk 18:20, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Proverbs 12:15, you should read it!Tad102 (talk) 18:56, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't need to, but I suggest you read this. Cassianto^Talk 19:00, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Very constructive, sums you up basically!

Perhaps, Tad102, you should withdraw from this threaad if you're only going to post pointy messages. As to the cause of this - the edits to the Fleming article - Cassianto did right in reverting: they were not an improvement. - SchroCat (talk) 19:07, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps you, SchroCat should mind your own business, besides Cassianto can easily delete this thread like deleting everything else i've contributed!Tad102 (talk) 19:14, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps you should stop now before you make a bigger fool of yourself than you have already. Cassianto deleted what was poor, that is all, If it had been good, he would not have deleted it. - SchroCat (talk) 19:17, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutley. ScrapIronIV, I'd add one more to list two if I were you! 😉 Cassianto^Talk 19:53, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Is the irony that the editor didn't heed Proverbs 12:15 lost on anyone? No? Good. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 08:53, 1 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

LOL - a good point, well made I think! - SchroCat (talk) 09:10, 1 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

...The diffrence is Chris I actually gave an apt proverb within the link I provided, but the truth hurt somewhat I think. Cassianto^Talk 10:52, 1 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. ;) — Chris Woodrich (talk) 10:59, 1 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Bligh

Good evening (or morning, or night), Cassianto, how are you? All well I hope. This is a note to let you know that Mutiny on the Bounty, on which Brian and I have been working over the past month or so, is now up at peer review here. Any contributions you might care to make would be more than welcome if you can find the time. Cheers and all the best, — Cliftonian (talk) 21:59, 22 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Most certainly, it would be a pleasure. I will be across shortly... Cassianto^Talk 10:43, 23 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Cassianto—just another note to let you know as a peer reviewer that the article is now at FAC here. Thanks again for all your help so far and I hope you're well. — Cliftonian (talk) 01:58, 1 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly nothing else from me so I shall wave a flag of support there shortly. Cassianto^Talk 10:40, 1 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Lekker, thanks, cheers — Cliftonian (talk) 18:21, 1 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Palmyra

Hi Cassianto. I didn't add any substantial information to the Palmyra article. I believe it was an anon editor who added the unsourced ISIS sentence in the history section. I just did a few minor copyedits throughout the article in order to improve the flow and readability. Regards. Gizza ^(t)(c) 07:47, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In any case, I'd agree with you removing the addition even if it was referenced. Mentioning the current situation in two different sections is clearly a case of WP:UNDUE recentism, especially for a city with a history as ancient as Palmyra. Gizza ^(t)(c) 08:05, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies, yes I see that now. However, it shouldn't have been copy edited in the first place and should've simply been removed altogether. Cassianto^Talk 11:07, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Fair point. I will look more carefully at the sourcing whenever I copyedit an article (particularly a GA or above) in the future. :) Gizza ^(t)(c) 11:52, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers for WP:ASG and it's nice to meet you. Cassianto^Talk 11:55, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Interested in reviewing a GAN?

Just put up Ahmed Zayat. Entertaining character, racehorse owner and entrepreneur. Owns American Pharoah. Montanabw^(talk) 07:46, 1 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Montanabw, and thanks for thinking of me. Unfortunaly, I'm on holiday until at least 20th June so I'm not terribly active what with Internet access being incredibly intermittant. If it can wait until I'm back, then I'd love to! Cassianto^Talk 08:43, 1 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps one of your stalkers on this page may be interested! Or if no bites by the time you get back, I can promise to fix all fixes in time to make the next wikicup deadline! Montanabw^(talk) 16:22, 1 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nobody stalks me, I'm far to boring! LoL. I can do a little review there this week on the talk in preparation for a speedy nomination for when I get back if you like. How does that work for you? Please bear in mind that I have only ever reviewed one article for GAN in the last 6 years or so, so I maybe a little slow on the technical side of things. Cassianto^Talk 18:05, 1 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I stalk, but I am not qualified to do the job. And in truth, I've reverted to gnoming, after seeing what has been done to EC this past week. I'm just not certain I really want to be part of a culture that treats is citizens as Wikipedia does. I've met some good folks, but the bad ones make me paranoid. I would hate to put my heart and soul into this as a hobby, only to have it taken away at the whim of... well, whoever decides I don't "think right" or "talk right." Scr★pIron^IV 18:54, 1 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not here to be treated well by everybody as it's wikipedia, few people really give a shit even if you promote articles to FA and the more content you produce the more grief you get at times. You might get the odd thanks, but it's mostly a negative environment. I contribute primarily for me and the massive potential I see. If it's not enjoyable to you to edit and you can't largely ignore the negative comments and assholes which exist on here then there's little to keep you here. The benefits of content and passion for building it has to outweigh the bad. But we all know why Eric is treated as he is, so don't let that be the reason to stop contributing here.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:26, 1 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Blofeld, ans speaking of the negatives, anyone want to buy popcorn and watch the show over at Mustang, which has been under full protection for a week or two and is going off later today or early tomorrow (depending on your time zone). I honestly cannot figure out how to get two tendentious editors I'm dealing with there to chill out. They both think I am totally evil and I've gotten snappish at them, for sure, but I have no interest in letting anyone run me off of an article (in nine years, I've never backed down from a fight). I know the usual advice is to ignore or walk away, but I've always believed that doing that leaves the field to the trolls. Sooner or later you have to dig in and stand up for something. Problem is, the person on point sure takes a lot of flak. Montanabw^(talk) 04:19, 2 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dr. Blofeld, I am not a tenditious editor and I do appreciate your work - just wanted you to know that. Secondly, Montanabw, you've been on WP long enough to know that casting aspersions is actionable whether you name the editors or not. It's easy enough to find out who you are referring to and I take issue with your incivility. I have never had the opportunity to collaborate with Blofeld, Cassianto, you or the other nameless editor you referred to but you are poisoning the well. Perhaps if you had taken a different approach, I would have been happy to review the GAN for you. Please get that attitude adjusted and AGF. Thank you. --Atsme^📞📧 13:41, 2 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(watching, yes, Cassianto, one of your fans): The article is already under review, and, ScrapIronIV, Eric just patiently waits for that block to go away, I just wait for my parole to go away - only 6 more months minus 2 days ;) - try to take the negative easy and build content, - I have a friend who wrote me IGNORE IGNORE IGNORE once, and it really helps, - I enjoyed the ride on an article with you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:14, 2 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Atsme, you are not welcome here so kindly sling your hook. Cassianto^Talk 17:57, 2 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Just wanted to say THANK YOU for popping by. I have found that having four or five consistent watchers who are basically neutral on the article topic is often very useful. There is potential for collaboration occcurring at the article now and I am cautiously optimistic. Please - Cassianto and all stalkers - do continue to keep an eye on things? Thanks! Montanabw^(talk) 20:49, 4 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You're more than welcome Montanabw. I've added it to my ever-extending watch list and I shall keep an eye out for any skullduggery taking place. I see the good Doctor is now taking care of the GAN, but if I can ever help in the future I'd be glad to help. Cassianto^Talk 21:08, 4 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Beer O'clock

	Time for a beer award
	Time for a nice cold beer, I'd say. Winter has hit hard here and it is 7 C...so I am drinking a guiness. But I do like Hoegaarden and I saw this picture....curious... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:09, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You're very kind Cas. I've never been partial to a Guinness really; I have tried Hoegaarden so it fits in well with my current destination. Ching, Ching! Cassianto^Talk 09:02, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Now I remember why I seldom go near AN/I. By the time I'd included one post and started to move down to the latest nonsense, then battled with edit conflicts and my appalling internet connection, the thread had been closed! Do any of the regulars there actually do much content work? Seems not ...

Cas: it's barely 10 degrees here (it's supposed to be summer) and that isn't allowing for the wind chill factor! I must bear in mind this isn't a social network, so I'll try to decide whether to do some more work on our latest feminist, have a stroll through the components of a fascinating building or do some more expansion on an interesting character. And I'll have some Chardonnay or a gin and tonic, please. SagaciousPhil - Chat 09:00, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It sounds lovely SP. there certainly is no place like home. Cassianto^Talk 20:25, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I wish User:Baseball Bugs and co would take a leaf out of Casliber and Sagaciousphil's book and focus more on content and showing goodwill to others instead of attacking people. Sagacious your work increasingly impresses me!!♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:10, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I wish Baseball Bugs would just dissapear altogether, personally. Cassianto^Talk 20:25, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There are many users of Wikipedia who are here to do nothing but comment on others. In a way it's probably for the best as they are utterly incompetent when it comes to writing encyclopedic articles. Best they confine themselves to "safe" areas of the project where they achieve and leave nothing. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:31, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I am so jealous. Take photos. Australia is so goddamn far from anywhere...my son wanted to go see a castle...and the closest castley-looking thing is Borobudur....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:27, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Stubs

Cassianto, please find me 10 missing articles on Saint Barthélemy I can put up on the Intertranswiki board. I'll need your help stubbing a few of course :-)♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:12, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'll give it a go Doc! Cassianto^Talk 20:25, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

LoL, you do know I'm only here one more day? Cassianto^Talk 14:32, 6 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps you could nick a flower from Andromeda Gardens today then which I started back in 2006!?♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:02, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

While you're on the beach...

Evening Cass, Tim riley and I have been working on P.G. Wodehouse and have now launched him on both the main page and now at PR. If you have time when you're back from the beach, or inclination, your thoughts would be much appreciated. Pip pip! – SchroCat (talk) 21:06, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You're damn right I have the inclination! He was a great author, one of the best in fact! Hopefully, the PR will still be open by the time I get back. As you know from my gloating email earlier, I'm seldom in one place for very long at the moment and WiFi is a bit rubbish to say the least. I have started reading it nonetheless and will meet you at either PR or FAC in a week or so. Cassianto^Talk 14:49, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

User conduct

Hello,

Recently it's been brought to my attention that there are some concerns about your recent conduct. Please take the time to review the civility policy and become familiar with the expected level of conduct towards other users. Thanks, Mike V • Talk 22:45, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What a tedious and patronising little comment... Perhaps the editor who's whining to you on your talk page should do something useful instead? – SchroCat (talk) 22:51, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oh no, I'm quaking in my boots here!!! Listen, Mike V, why don't you and your teacher's pet go and do some good somewhere, like actually review a GA or write a few stubs? You know, somewhere where you're appreciated? Because let me tell you, your not appreciated here. Cassianto^Talk 05:21, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

oh, and since you're here, why don't you go and do something about the ganging up at RfA a few days ago; a place where I have never been before and one which I decided to visit to have my say over who becomes an admin or not. I see Chillum is reluctant to recognise the incident, so maybe you could. In fact, here's a coincidence! Your complainant was one of those admins!

My point in turning up at ANI was that I am sick of watching those who couldn't give a toss about article creation and who care more about how to be lovely to one another, becoming admins. Once they have the tools they ignore article writing (in NeilN's case he never started), and then choose instead to loiter around ANI ready to console whinging editors who complain about incivility during content disputes. Having wrapped the complainant up in cotton wool, they then turn up at the featured article writer's talk page, eager to administer their first block. The result is that they then gain the necessary criteria to enter the Administrator's Mess and guffaw with their fellow newbies over a glass of malt. Now obviously, that doesn't apply to every admin, but for the large majority, unfortunately. I and other content writers feel the same about this, but nobody bothers to ask us how we feel. Cassianto^Talk 05:44, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please be careful here, Cass. This is the same guy that blocked me for edit warring with LB, and didn't seem to bother with looking at the actual edit history. I made one edit after notification of Discretionary Sanctions, and got a pretty little permanent black mark on my record. I did not break 3RR, but got the same block LB did for her 6th revert. Obviously does not know what it is like to actually create content, and have to work with other editors without the "tools" to back him up. Not even remotely familiar with the current environment. Scr★pIron^IV 13:31, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm well aware who this person is. Unfortunately, he's implicated himself by rocking up on my talk page on the behalf of a troublemaker who felt the need to run to an admin when he could've challenged me here himself. All this because I wasn't allowed an opinion and didn't conform to the sycophancy which went on at NeilN's RfA. Cassianto^Talk 14:00, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop with the persistent uncivil comments, such as this. Further instances will result in a block. Mike V • Talk 16:23, 12 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What a ridiculous threat to make over a nothing comment. Move on and try and be constructive for goodness sake: this smacks of some petty harassment over something so minor. - SchroCat (talk) 16:27, 12 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

And how else is supposed to respond to being called a troll? I notice that you have not made a similar comment/warning on that user's page. Or is something else going on here? Scr★pIron^IV 16:32, 12 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The reason I called you a troll was entirely due to your own throwaway disparaging remark about FP@S's so-called 'conduct.' Allegations, like edits, need to be sourced. Diffs are RS. Your remark it amounted to nothing more than a personal attack therefore = trolling. _Fortuna ^{Imperatrix Mundi} 16:36, 12 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

He made no accusation, or allegation. He asked a question. Learn the difference. What you read into his comment says more about you than what he actually wrote. Scr★pIron^IV 16:39, 12 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No. He said "why am I not surprised by this editor's conduct.'" No question-mark. Just a full stop. Period. All I read was what was there. As should you. You failure do so- somewhat ironically- does indeed "more about you " than anything else. _Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi 16:46, 12 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You can assume what you want to assume Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi, frankly, I couldn't give a toss. What I do care about is you coming to my talk page and causing trouble. Now kindly fuck off. Cassianto^Talk 18:15, 12 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

John Grimek and actual content creation

I know you are on vacation (and I do hope you are having a marvelous time!) but if you think of it, I cam across some information about John Grimek, and am looking to improve his article. It is an area I am personally unfamiliar with, and would appreciate collaborating again with you on some article content. The biggest challenges I am facing are image acquisition Strength & Health magazine covers were used in the past, but deleted in 2007 for fair use counter example #8. As he was the subject of (multiple) covers of that magazine and was also its editor, I think it might actually be appropriate. I went into the article's history, and the fact that he was also the magazine's editor was not taken into account when the image was deleted. The other issue I am coming across is that articles on this subject are often blogs or personal histories, and the only biography I know of his life was published in England, and out of print now. Personal histories may work; I have an electronic copy of the Iron Game History issue from which was dedicated to his life after his passing, and induction to the IBFF Hall of Fame. Scr★pIron^IV 14:30, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Jack Bologna

Grazie caro Cassianto! (I hope you don't mind me removing your kind welcome message to avoid misunderstandings - I prefer to contribute as a gf logged-out editor). Regarding Jack Bologna, I was intrigued to find out where he and his family emigrated from. According to Dickens's Memoirs of Joseph Grimaldi (primary/secondary sourcing?) they moved to London from Genova. Best, 109.146.70.40 (talk) 20:52, 10 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Do as you will, but the sentiment still remains. Bologna moved all over the place and I do seem to remember Genova being mentioned in Dickens somewhere. If you want to add anything though, please do add the source and correctly format it. Cheers Cassianto^Talk 21:04, 10 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The format is that used on the Joseph Grimaldi page, which is an FA; I've now fixed the link, using Google Books for ease of consultation. I've also found a secondary source regarding the description of their friendship in the memoirs, which I'll add in. 109.146.70.40 (talk) 21:18, 10 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

RE [1] How not a benefit??? I have serious backache irl, and now give up. 109.146.70.40 (talk) 21:21, 10 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Having it as "Further reading" tells us nothing; it is merely a plug for the book. If you have access to the book, cite some info from it and weave it I nto the article. Then add it to the "sources" section. Re Grimaldi, I authored it and had it pass FA, so I know the links to Bologna. I saw your edit and agree with it. Cassianto^Talk 21:32, 10 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In the circumstances, I think what I'll probably do is make a comment on the talk page, with a secondary RS, and then leave it to you (or whoever). 109.146.70.40 (talk) 08:20, 11 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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 ::He made no accusation, or allegation. He asked a question. Learn the difference. What you read into his comment says more about you than what he actually wrote. '''[[User:ScrapIronIV|<span style="color:#306b1e">Scr<span style="background:#0404B4;border-radius:7px;color:#FFFFFF">★</span>pIron</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:ScrapIronIV|<span style="color:#6E6E6E">IV</span>]]</sup>''' 16:39, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 :::No. He said "''why am I not surprised by this editor's conduct.'" No question-mark. Just a full stop. Period. All I read was what was there. As should you. You failure do so- somewhat ironically- does indeed "''more about you ''" than anything else.  [[User:Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi|<sub>'''<font color="green">Fortuna<font color="green"></font></font>'''</sub>]] <sup>'''''[[User talk:Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi|<font color="red">Imperatrix Mundi</font>]]'''''</sup> 16:46, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
+::::You can assume what you want to assume {{u|Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi}}, frankly, I couldn't give a toss.  What I do care about is you coming to my talk page and causing trouble.  Now kindly fuck off. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">[[User:Cassianto|<font face="Papyrus">Cassianto</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Cassianto#top|<font face="Papyrus">Talk</font>]]</sup></span>''' 18:15, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
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