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Okay, okay, last thing here, I swear. Look, i want to work here. I'm perfectly willing to start over and rewrite this so that we're ''both'' happy. I think the problem is I think we keep "talking past each other" and we're not on the same level. Here's how I've seen this conversation unfold: I saw a problem -> ask you for help -> you ask what's wrong -> I mention X, Y, and Z -> you say, "Oh, well, all THESE other articles are breaking the rules too!" You say there is absolutely nothing wrong with the plot summary. I think the opposite; there are some parts wrong with it, but if you tell me ''specific'' concerns with my rewrite, I'll try to address them so we can both be happy. But the red line, which is NOT one of my solutions, is "revert to the original". [[User:Hbdragon88|hbdragon88]] ([[User talk:Hbdragon88|talk]]) 22:16, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
Okay, okay, last thing here, I swear. Look, i want to work here. I'm perfectly willing to start over and rewrite this so that we're ''both'' happy. I think the problem is I think we keep "talking past each other" and we're not on the same level. Here's how I've seen this conversation unfold: I saw a problem -> ask you for help -> you ask what's wrong -> I mention X, Y, and Z -> you say, "Oh, well, all THESE other articles are breaking the rules too!" You say there is absolutely nothing wrong with the plot summary. I think the opposite; there are some parts wrong with it, but if you tell me ''specific'' concerns with my rewrite, I'll try to address them so we can both be happy. But the red line, which is NOT one of my solutions, is "revert to the original". [[User:Hbdragon88|hbdragon88]] ([[User talk:Hbdragon88|talk]]) 22:16, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

== Edit warring ==

Please stop [[WP:EW|edit warring]] to remove a reliable source at [[The Karate Kid (2010 film)]]. The article is currently semi-protected because people were edit warring over this source, and I will seek to have it fully protected if you continue to edit war. It doesn't matter if you agree with the conclusions reported by this source; your [[WP:OR|original research]] and feelings are completely irrelevant to Wikipedia. If you want to want soapbox about the film's reception, you can do so in a blog. Wikipedia is not the place to do it. We base our articles on [[WP:V|verifiablility]] and [[WP:RS|reliable source]], not our own opinions. If you have policy-based concerns about the source – not that you disagree with it or find it unnecessary – take it to the talk page and get consensus. Per [[WP:BRD]], you really need to stop removing this reliable source. [[User:NinjaRobotPirate|NinjaRobotPirate]] ([[User talk:NinjaRobotPirate|talk]]) 02:30, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

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link Thank you for your edits on Wikipedia, and we really appreciate your reverting unnecessary edits, but please do not include profanities in your edit summaries. Thanks. smileguy91talk 20:45, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. I just can't stand vandalism from various randomly IPs. JoesphBarbaro (talk) 20:48, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Mafia characters sheet

Thanks for the heads up on the List of Mafia characters page. I tagged it for cruft before, since it was chock-full of excessive info that should've been at a Wikia site instead. Blake Gripling (talk) 00:22, 27 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. JoesphBarbaro (talk) 10:45, 27 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

On the R32 page-

Hello! Just wanted to explain to you my view of the specificity of the edits on the R32 page- As I see it at least, the paragraph is largely fancruft- The paragraph seems to imply that the R32s have lasted this long was due to their physical condition/craftsmanship, when in reality it is largely an accident due to the poor condition of the mainline R44s, and the Conductor positions on R40/R42. Yes, most of the R42s and R44s have been retired, but for that matter, so have most of the R32s! While I see the notability in pointing out that the R32s (and R42s) must remain for now due to the issues of the R44s, Saying that they outlasted the car classes which followed them when most R32s did not, and when two of the classes following them have not even been fully retired is misleading.(and one of the "classes", the R40A was not even considered a separate class by the MTA since at least GOH)

I have issues with statements which if I didn't know better would mislead me, and to me at least,(and I think to most readers) the last sentence would imply that the next 5 orders have all been retired while the R32s have not, when such is not the case. (In fact, the majority of the R32s were retired before the first pair of R38s were removed from service! Could one have said that the R38 outlasted the R32 in September of 2008? I think a stronger argument could have been made then than what could be made now with regards to the R32 vs R42 and R44) I don't mean to go on and on(I know, too late...) but I hope you can see where I am coming from here. Hope your day is treating you well!74.64.111.51 (talk) 23:09, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

I'm surprised to learn you are RollOverMyHead from NYC Transit Forums and YouTube. Nice to see you here keeping Wikipedia in check. I've been here less often lately due to my job and other duties. I'm sure you know this already, but I am the guy who loves causing chaos and mayhem on those sites. The Legendary Ranger (talk) 00:18, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Mafia II edits

Hi Joseph,

I noticed you undid a whole bunch of my edits, which another user, Niemti, reinstated. For the next time, you might want to drop by the Video Game WikiProject and its its guidelines. See the diff: open world is no longer considered a video game genre, while the ratings field have been removed from the infobox. Third-person might be true, but is that so important enough to mention in the very first line of the intro? Also, a long, very long list of in-game music is downright trivial. I understand your enthusiasm for particular games, but don't let that cloud you to make articles better. Thanks, and happy editing. --Soetermans. T / C 17:33, 5 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I think we better condense the plot summary a little more. I did it before based on what I can gather from playing the game, but perhaps we can trim down some intricate details and leave the essential plotline intact. A more detailed summary would work on the Mafia Wiki, but since the article here generally serves as an outline of the game in question, such intricacies would be beyond Wikipedia's scope and considered as cruft. Blake Gripling (talk) 04:06, 6 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Joe, the plot is still way too long. A background section isn't particularly necessary for Mafia II. This tone doesn't help, it sounds like you claim ownership of the article. I suggest you try to communicate here. Thanks. --Soetermans. T / C 16:11, 6 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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I do get your drift, though. We just needed to add in what's necessary. Blake Gripling (talk) 13:38, 7 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

NYCS Const Template

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R32 and R38

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/caption.pl?/img/cars/sheet-r32.jpg http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/caption.pl?/img/cars/sheet-r38.jpg These are the technical drawings for the R32 and R38 subway cars. In the section that says "Seating Arrangement and Capacity" it says "Longitudinal [50]." This means the R32 and R38 cars seat 50 people.

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/caption.pl?/img/cars/sheet-r40slant.jpg http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/caption.pl?/img/cars/sheet-r40m.jpg http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/caption.pl?/img/cars/sheet-r42.jpg These are the technical drawings for the R40, R40M and R42 subway cars. In the section that says "Seating Arrangement and Capacity" it says "Longitudinal [44]." This means the R40, R40M and R42 cars seat 44 people.

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Re: Mafia II plot

I get your drift, dude, although since our goal here for the Mafia II article is to provide an outline of what the game is, and leave the finer details, i.e. Francesca, the subplot with the gas stamps, etc. to a specialised wiki, we have no other choice but to shorten things. Besides, the new plot summary's fine enough as it is when I read it just recently. Blake Gripling (talk) 05:30, 20 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Mafia/Mafia II character birth dates

Do we have a source for the characters' birthdays? As far as I know from playing both games I've only read/heard about Vito, Joe, Francesca and some of the other characters' birth years, but not the exact date. Blake Gripling (talk) 10:37, 28 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Mixed to negative, mixed to positive

Hi, I saw your edit at Rugrats Go Wild here. Though your edit had good intentions, phrases that attempt to describe critical response as "mixed to negative" or "mixed to positive" don't impart any significant information, as all critical response is "mixed", simply by virtue of a bunch of different reviewers having different opinions. Though I know these phrases are commonly used, they are generally shunned by various WikiProjects, including WikiProject Film, which has had numerous discussions about it, including this one. Hope that helps. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 06:56, 23 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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A Train image

I have a problem because all of the other train images don't have the end terminal image showing it. What is wrong with Broad Channel Joe. Come on man. It looks so good and nice. Keep that image I believe it should stay there. Ragnity (talk) 21:30, 24 September 2014 (UTC) Thank you Joe for changing that image. I thank you for your contributions at Wikipedia. Just as I have said the Broad Channel image is the much better image here. Ragnity (talk) 12:10 25 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The Haunted Hathaways episodes

Hi, Joseph. My last edit follows Wikipedia style guidelines. That is, I removed unnecessary boldface and incorrect date formatting per WP:BOLDFACE and WP:DATERANGE, respectively. And having "US dates" next to "Originally aired" is redundant, as the page already said it's an American series. -- Wikipedical (talk) 20:01, 11 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

List of SpongeBob SquarePants episodes

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Put the new A Train image

Thanks for the message. I do work for NYC transit. All of today, I had tried to put up the new A train image from 168th Street. It still is not able to be put there. It is a good image and I hope that it is put in A (New York City Subway service) I hope you put it up soon. Roldank (talk) 17:55, 15 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Spring St Lex Av Track layout

I want to make a template for the layout with the 5th center trackbed. To start I need the lexington avenue local template. I can only find the 125th street one and for local stations 51st street and north Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 16:21, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Can you help me with a problem user

Hi, please can you help me with a user that has been a problem. Please look at my talk page. This is the problem user, AahdTahar. Thanks Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 17:28, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

And what is exactly the problem? The fact that you deleted all of my work when I followed wiki guidelines? Again, I don't want to start a war between us, but you deleted everything I made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AahdTahar (talkcontribs) 21:08, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you take out NYCTF from your User Page

I know that NYCTF isn't like it used to be, but why did you have to take the mention off of it. I hope that you are OK! Sincerely, Kew Gardens 613 Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 23:06, 15 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Kew Gardens 613, I'm fine, don't worry about it. JoesphBarbaro (talk) 14:28, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I added bold to the letter "C", so that the sentence reads, For the summers of 2011 and 2012, the C train fleet... Epic Genius (talk) 23:46, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Fruitville Station

I just realized when I was rereading the plot section that it looks like (or at least feels like) it was ripped from some press kit. If you've watched the film could you rip it apart and rewrite it to be less peachy? hbdragon88 (talk) 20:58, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hbdragon88, I really dislike your revert to the article. I don't find anything wrong with the previous writing of the plot section. Why don't you further explain why? JoesphBarbaro (talk) 21:28, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You didn't? Huh. It was just overly fluffy. Like, really, really fluffy. Described every scene in detail, which was not necessary to understand. Did we really need to elaborate on each argument, each flashback, each little nuance? Like take this:

He then goes to begin shopping for his mother's birthday, stopping by his old job at the deli counter of a grocery store from which he had been fired two weeks prior for his constant tardiness. While waiting for his boss, he helps another lady named Katie by giving her advice on what to cook for her boyfriend for New Year's Eve. When his boss finally comes in, Oscar pleads with him to let him have his job back, but to no avail and in his frustration ends up threatening his boss, leaving no chance of getting rehired.

This 98 word paragraph can can literally be restated down to, "Grant attempted get his job back but was unsuccessful."

Also, some parts were just, like I said, fluffery, which to me I guess is defined "saying too much," or writing without actually imparting any more information/understanding to the plot. Phrases like "Oscar and his friends turn the train into a party scene" and saying the passengers were "shocked" at the shooting. Also, parts of it were non-neutral like the police "show excessive force towards them".

The plot summary was initially 883 words for a story that is not that complicated. WP:FILMPLOT suggests something like 400-700 word unless more is necessary for an unconventional narrative hbdragon88 (talk) 21:41, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hbdragon88, so what? It's a movie. Many film articles on Wikipedia have long paragraphs. Why don't you go and revert them then? I'm not going to rewrite anything, because, as I said before, I don't find anything wrong with the previous writing of the plot section until you reverted it. JoesphBarbaro (talk) 21:45, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, first, I didn't "revert" anything. You made a recent edit to the article, so I thought I'd just ask for your opinion about the plot summary (because talk pages tend to be dead), but then I went ahead and did it myself (which undercut the reason why I even left this message here). Again, NOT a revert, I just rewrote the entire thing. Sorry I bothered you with this, clearly you and I disagree on how plot summaries should be treated. hbdragon88 (talk) 21:49, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hbdragon88 I disagree with the way you rewrote the entire plot section for all the reasons that I've stated above. I don't find anything wrong with the previous writing. But hey, this is Wikipedia and its strict rules and blah blah blah. What else can I do besides following the rules that's written on paper? JoesphBarbaro (talk) 21:59, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, okay, last thing here, I swear. Look, i want to work here. I'm perfectly willing to start over and rewrite this so that we're both happy. I think the problem is I think we keep "talking past each other" and we're not on the same level. Here's how I've seen this conversation unfold: I saw a problem -> ask you for help -> you ask what's wrong -> I mention X, Y, and Z -> you say, "Oh, well, all THESE other articles are breaking the rules too!" You say there is absolutely nothing wrong with the plot summary. I think the opposite; there are some parts wrong with it, but if you tell me specific concerns with my rewrite, I'll try to address them so we can both be happy. But the red line, which is NOT one of my solutions, is "revert to the original". hbdragon88 (talk) 22:16, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Edit warring

Please stop edit warring to remove a reliable source at The Karate Kid (2010 film). The article is currently semi-protected because people were edit warring over this source, and I will seek to have it fully protected if you continue to edit war. It doesn't matter if you agree with the conclusions reported by this source; your original research and feelings are completely irrelevant to Wikipedia. If you want to want soapbox about the film's reception, you can do so in a blog. Wikipedia is not the place to do it. We base our articles on verifiablility and reliable source, not our own opinions. If you have policy-based concerns about the source – not that you disagree with it or find it unnecessary – take it to the talk page and get consensus. Per WP:BRD, you really need to stop removing this reliable source. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 02:30, 13 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]