Talk:Alan Rickman

Picture

Is there no way to put a picture of him in here? :) - Egoinos

• Write to him and ask him to send Jimbo a picture and permission to use it under GNU FDL?  :) -- April

Death Hoax

Alan Rickman died today... Did anyone else hear about this hoax? I remember many many months ago hearing that phrase on local radio and television news, both stating that Rickman died. Apparently so did some other people, judging by some of the the reverts (although most of the reverts have the DOD as very recent, not months ago). I remember thinking "they'll have a hell of a time getting a replacement for the Harry Potter movies," until IMDB and Wikipedia, with lack of other media coverage, convinced me otherwise. Does anyone have more info? I lack dates and references, and I found nothing on Google or Snopes. If anyone else can corroborate this hoax, I think it should be included with the main article. Durty Willy 01:17, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

He keeps his personal life .. personal, so it's quite hard to build an unbias encyclopedic entry about the in's-and-out's of it. Like has been said, he had no children and has been romantically involved with the same woman since the 60's I believe. He is rumoured to be asexual, but has never openly said it, to my knowledge (perhaps due to "asexuality" only coming to the mainstream nowadays, if anything).

All rumors of death will eventually become true, sadly. Not a hoax anymore as of today. 2601:283:4302:6680:388A:DD00:79D7:D1A3 (talk) 15:37, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Elle February '92 Interview Excerpts

Alan on his partner Rima:

"I hope Rima is around, ' he smiles. A warm astute woman, Rima Horton lives with Rickman in West London. The couple met when they were both in their twenties at a local amateur dramatics society in West London. 'No, it was not Love At First Sight', he growls, but it was shortly after he left his childhood home in Acton.

An economics teacher who will shortly be lining up, along with Glenda Jackson, as a prospective Labour parliamentary candidate (for Chelsa) in the next general election, Rima had been with the actor for over 20 years. In a profession where partners can appear to last as long as runs of plays, their relationship appears a model of endurance and mutual respect.

'I'd hate for us to be presented as something extraordinary,' says Rickman. 'We're just as messy and complex as any other couple, and we go through just as many changes. But I really respect her rima and i can sit in a room just reading, and not saying anything to each other for an hour, then she'll read something to me and we'll both start giggling.'

The relationship, Rickman believes, works partly because Rima is not in the same profession. 'I think it's difficult for two actors to live together because this business burns up any available space. Clearly Judi Dench and Michael Williams have made a success of it, but maybe they've learnt to leave business behind in the rehearsal room. I've never learnt that trick. I bring all problems home. I brood. But Rima just laughs and goes straight to the heart of the matter. No matter what problems she has she puts her head on the pillow and goes straight to sleep'."

Alan on what he enjoys:

Simple pleasures, he insists, are what matters: 'Sitting around a table with good friends, some sympathy, nice wine good talk, what could be better than that? Except sex. Or getting it right on stage.' After the latter he may be found dining out in restaurants like the Ivy or Le Caprice. His ideal Sunday (often his only day off) is a leisurely lunch with Rima and other friends, followed by a walk or French cricket in the park.

On what Alan's friends think:

Ask his friends about Rickman's virtues and they name the big ones: loyalty, sympathy, boundless generosity and practical encouragement. Among his vices, Rickman, cites 'a wounding tongue. I'm working on it. Perhaps its the Celt in me.' Friends add that their are times when he wants to control too much.

On 'mooching around in department stores':

His strong visual eye is a quality his women friends value especially. Before the last Labour Party conference, Rickman took Rima shopping. 'We eventually found the right suit in Workers for Freedom. It was a real knockout, but ironic, given the name and the price tag.

'He's always trying to make a well-dressed woman out of me, ' laughs his old friend Juliet Stevenson. 'And failing to his immense frustration. he has a brilliant eye. He'll pick out a garment which will look like this grey, sacking bedspread-like thing and say, "That." Of course it looks terrific on.'

-Azzaelea

David Warner?

I wonder if Rickman's resemblance in appearance and acting to David Warner (actor), who had a big role in Tron (film), is notable enough to include? David Spector (talk) 01:51, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

No, it isn't. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 15:53, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

No evidence of his Irishness.

I have looked on Ancestry.com at Rickmans family background. There is no question that his paternal Rickman ancesters were English. His mother's Welsh family were also originaly English, mainly from the West Country. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.0.30.82 (talk) 13:35, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

The source says his father is Irish Catholic, and ancestry.com is not considered a reliable source.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:50, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Ummm sorry but Ancestry.com is a very reliable and to be frank only reliable source when it comes to tracing someone's ancestors. Seriously I think Wikipedia and those on it moderating it make their own rules as they go along. Please tell me how ancestry.com / .co.uk is not a reliable source? For one its a paid service run by the government with extensive knowledge of the past. I seriously don't get Wikipedia sometimes. 91.125.54.32 (talk) 16:03, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

@91.125.54.32 Ancestry.com is not a primary source nor is it run by 'the' government. If you actually looked at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancestry.com page on Wikipedia you would come to realize that it is in fact a privately held company. Just because it is a paid service, doesn't make it any more reputable. That's like saying that because you pay for a bible it must be true... --101.164.223.142 (talk) 13:11, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

The Holy Bible is true - please don't start your agenda with trolling. 98.67.186.101 (talk) 21:04, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Error in Rickman movies

Harry Potter And the Philosopher's Stone? Sorcerer's. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.255.14.107 (talk) 13:53, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Correct; while "Philosopher's" was the original British title of the book the film was based on, the film has only ever been titled "Sorcerer's." 2601:283:4302:6680:388A:DD00:79D7:D1A3 (talk) 15:44, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

No it hasn't. As the table states. Right there next to the title. Mezigue (talk) 15:50, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Incorrect. In the UK the film was titled the same as the book was: Philosoher's. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 15:51, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Verified Reports of Death January 2016

Just thought I'd point out that this is now, regrettably, true. http://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/jan/14/alan-rickman-giant-of-british-film-and-theatre-dies-at-69 Wittylama 12:42, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Very regrettable indeed, a second source: Twobells (talk) 12:54, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 14 January 2016

Died: 1/14/2016 38.95.192.114 (talk) 13:20, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

This information is already in the article. Sarahj2107 (talk) 13:26, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

lol which is why the thing is semi'd in the first place, IP :D _Fortuna ^{Imperatrix Mundi} 13:32, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 January 2016

I just heard this morning that Alan Rickman has died and request this article be updated to reflect that 150.226.225.174 (talk) 13:43, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Read the article then _Fortuna ^{Imperatrix Mundi} 14:02, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

article was updated to cover this at 12.36 - Arjayay (talk) 14:09, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 January 2016

Alan Rickman died of Cancer 14 January 2016 162.11.170.236 (talk) 14:01, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

ditto _Fortuna ^{Imperatrix Mundi} 14:02, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 January 2016

Died 14.01.2016 81.129.75.107 (talk) 14:08, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

wtf _Fortuna ^{Imperatrix Mundi} 14:09, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

article was updated to cover this at 12.36 - Arjayay (talk) 14:10, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 January 2016

Request to add the death of Alan Rickman on 14th January 2016, to the profile.

109.145.219.84 (talk) 14:41, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

The article has already been updated to cover this. --Captain Sweden 14:42, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Mention of David Bowie in the death section

I'm as sad about Bowie's death as the next person, but is it really relevant to mention here? I could understand if the two were good friends, but from what I know of both men, the only thing they had in common was that they were British and 69. The way it's written right now, it looks like Rickman's family said "he died about 4 days after David Bowie," and from what I can find, that is simply not the case, especially in the article used as the source for that line. Hirachio11 (talk) 14:41, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Apparently I'm not the only one who thought this, as someone already took care of it while I was writing this. Good show.Hirachio11 (talk) 14:43, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

It's completely irrelevant. If they were related, perhaps, or had something particular in common; but as it stands, it's just been a blody unfortunate week for film / music fans of a certain vintage. And anyone else of course. _Fortuna ^{Imperatrix Mundi} 14:46, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 January 2016

Please change the introduction "Alan Sidney Patrick Rickman (born 21 February 1946)" to "Alan Sidney Patrick Rickman (21 February 1946 - 14 January 2016)"

Please change the biographical bar on the right-side of the screen, and add a section that says "Died 14 January 2016 (age 69)"

Public records, including the New York Times and British Broadcasting Corporation, indicate he has passed away after a battle with cancer.

12.15.136.26 (talk) 14:44, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

It's said that for the last two bloody hours. Cheers. _Fortuna ^{Imperatrix Mundi} 14:47, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

The mobile (en.m.wikipedia.org) version of a page is sometimes a cached older version. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 15:10, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

D'oh! -thank you Jason, that would explain it. I was wondering how so many people were coming straight here to ask instead of seeing it in the article first! Cheers _Fortuna ^{Imperatrix Mundi} 15:15, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 January 2016

"Rickman was survived by his wife Rima Horton, who he married in 2012." I believe "who" should be changed to "whom" in this sentence. Thank you.

Freedomquiche (talk) 15:35, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Either is acceptable in this construction; but either way WP:BOLD could apply... _Fortuna ^{Imperatrix Mundi} 16:00, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Not done: I will be bold and say no to this one. I think it sounds fine, either term is acceptable, the edit does not need to be made --allthefoxes ^(Talk) 16:58, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 January 2016

Alan Rickman died on Jan, 14th, 2016 due to a fight against cancer. 73.36.194.34 (talk) 16:15, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

He didn't die 'due to a fight' against cancer, he died of/from cancer. -- Chamith (talk) 16:27, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 January 2016

Page needs to be updated because Alan Rickman has died. 69.70.14.222 (talk) 16:43, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

If you read the article you might see that it has already been updated. -- Chamith (talk) 16:48, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

References

Regarding edit requests about Rickman's death

Please take note: the mobile version of Wikipedia often displays a cached version of the page you are viewing, especially when the page is being frequently updated. The date and known information of Alan Rickman's death has been on this page for several hours now. Please refrain from submitting edit requests stating that Alan Rickman has died, pretty much everybody's aware of it now and it's just cluttering up the page. If you're looking at the article and it doesn't say that he's died, either refresh the page, clear your cache, or switch to the desktop view of the article. I promise it's there. Thank you. Hirachio11 (talk) 17:22, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

I wondered if a template could be made, or the existing 'recent death' one could be ammended, informing mobile users that the page has already been updated etc? So they see that instead of coming here. Although I supose that wouldn't show up either! _Fortuna ^{Imperatrix Mundi} 17:27, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

I don't see the necessity of a template as one could always purge the page cache after performing a substantial edit. -- Chamith (talk) 17:31, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

I agree. The point I was making is that people do not seem to understand that. And therefore perhaps we could assist our client base by pointing this out to them. With the added bonus that we do not then receive a load of unecessary sodding edit-requests. _Fortuna ^{Imperatrix Mundi} 18:39, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

I came here from desktop (OS X) and got the out-of-date page as well, and I've never surfed to his page before, as an FYI. Could explain why so many people are showing up with this issue. Rhynri (talk) 18:42, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Purging clears the page's server cache, not your browser's cache. But as you said you've never visited this page and the page displayed to you is still outdated, then it's most likely due to Five-minute rule (if it's employed in Wikimedia servers) and/or network congestion. -- Chamith (talk) 19:02, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

I came here on Firefox, Windows 7 and got a cached version of the page as well. Never been to this page before. Rip-Saw (talk) 21:16, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Rhynri, User:Rip-Saw - this is a feature of caching at the (web) server (rather than a feature/bug at the (browser) client) see client-server and Wikipedia:Purge. Widefox; talk 10:26, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

User:ChamithN this is nothing to do with network congestion. Widefox; talk 10:32, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

@Widefox: Yeah, I agree and retract my initial point about network congestion. Network congestion affects the quality of a node, not the quality of the content on the page. I just don't see why anybody would see an outdated version of the page even after purging the cache. -- Chamith (talk) 12:35, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

To add, I purged the page multiple times before Rip-Saw reported that s/he is seeing an outdated version. So purging is out of the question here. -- Chamith (talk) 12:38, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Of course, nowadays things may not be as simple as client-server - we are already talking 2 servers here (DB and caching front-end) but ISPs may be caching in the middle (as allowed by http, or more aggressively than standards allow). Widefox; talk 15:38, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Rickmans Wikipedia Edits In The News

Twobells (talk) 18:35, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Tbh it's more about the twits on Twatter, but thanks anyway :) _Fortuna ^{Imperatrix Mundi} 18:42, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Heh, I like it, 'twits on twatter', np, enjoy. :-) Twobells (talk) 18:58, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

References

Original Confirmation of Death Citations Replaced?

Why were the original BBC and Guardian citations confirming Rickmans death removed and replaced with an American source? Twobells (talk) 19:07, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

They weren't replaced, but moved to Death section. American source was added by DCobit with this edit. -- Chamith (talk) 19:22, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Okay, thanks very much for the explantation, regards.Twobells (talk) 19:54, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 January 2016

Sweetbhunny (talk) 22:12, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Not done: There are two separate sentences there. "They lived together from 1977 until his death." and "In 2015, Rickman confirmed that they had married in a private ceremony in New York City in 2012." It isn't saying he died in 2015. Sarahj2107 (talk) 22:18, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 January 2016

2601:84:8702:8F01:1C2C:846B:1AF6:45DB (talk) 00:14, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Cannolis (talk) 00:17, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Death section tributes

Do we need to have these tributes? It is to be expected that those who knew him are paying respect, that does not mean it should be included in an encyclopaedia. Hollth (talk) 07:17, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

I agree it seems unnecessary. Freedomquiche (talk) 19:31, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

You can send obituary links (and any others) over to the DMOZ category for Alan. Elper (talk) 17:32, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

By Grabthor's hammer . . . . . what a savings.

"He's wearing a costume, not a uniform!" Didn't Rickman introduce McCartney a few years back on his last tour at the Odeon? 68.19.1.192 (talk) 13:46, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Cause of death

Nope. Didn't see that coming ... 🖖ATinySliver/^ATalkPage 05:22, 19 January 2016 (UTC)