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Sudirman Arshad

Hello GB fan. I have given source to Sudirman Arshad. I hope you removed the PROD tag to his article that tagged by Alexander Iskandar. Several more references I will add to his article later. Thank you. Fandi89 (talk) 03:07, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Francis Bacon redirects

Thanks for being a voice of reason. Ceoil (talk)

You are welcome. That was my objective from the very beginning, to get rid of the redirects that were not helpful. ~ GB fan 12:32, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

They were certainly demotivating. Glad to see there are good, clear thinking, people around. Ceoil (talk) 17:32, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Iskander

I'm just gonna leave this right here. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 18:06, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

The IP is blocked. I am done at this time, I don't seem to be getting through so maybe someone else can. ~ GB fan 19:48, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

GB fan Oh I know it's blocked - I reported it. I just meant that I was dropping it here since they apparently are on track to appeal their block but seem to be IP socking in the mean time. :P CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 20:20, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

OK, didn't look at the timeline, just looked at their contributions and saw they were blocked. ~ GB fan 20:25, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Speedily deleted page

Hello,

I didn't write this article, but I noticed that you deleted the article Arya Permana as A7 (Meatsgains tagged it originally). I was actually going to remove that tag on grounds that it at least deserves a deletion discussion; it has a claim of significance as "the heaviest child". I wasn't sure if this was credible, so I searched online: I found multiple sources, such as this BBC news source and this Telegraph source, which support the claims made in the article. Because of this coverage, I don't think the article falls under A7, nor do I believe it's an obvious delete at AfD. For these reasons, I think it'd be good to restore the article and allow some time for improvement. Appable (talk | contributions) 17:38, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Restored, I see you must have been removing it at the same time I was deleting it. ~ GB fan 17:41, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Thank you! Appable (talk | contributions) 17:41, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the ping. The page certainly does deserve to keep after the improvements and additional of reliable sources. Meatsgains (talk) 00:26, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Arbiteroftruth

Categories G3, G5, and G10 are applicable in this case. The category was automatically created by banned user ColourWolf (G5) in an effort to disparage me (under my former username, which makes it eligible for G10), and there is no evidence to back that the IPs belong to me whatsoever (the IPs are all Singapore-based, and I have never set foot on that country. G5 fulfilled). Kiteinthewind ^{Leave a message!} 23:31, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

I don't see it, the category is empty. ~ GB fan 23:41, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

The categories contained a number of Singapore-based IPs that were tagged as my suspected sockpuppets (again, under my former username). Earlier today, I had to remove the vandalism that, unfortunately, went undetected for years. I have never operated any sockpuppets, and these are also Singaporean IPs, yet I'm an American. The mere existence of this category qualifies as an attack page, and it is also a hoax. Kiteinthewind ^{Leave a message!} 00:15, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Deletion of John Burroughs Middle School article

Hello. I was told that you deleted the longstanding article on John Burroughs Middle School. As stated in the article, Los Angeles' John Burroughs Middle School has been featured in many movies, including Pretty in Pink, Waiting for Guffman, Teen Wolf, A Nightmare on Elm Street, Never Been Kissed, Pleantville, Bad Teacher and Teaching Miss Tingle.

Its alumni include Dustin Hoffman, Tyra Banks, Phil Spector, Harry Shearer and Slash from Guns N' Roses.

It's been around for 93 years.

But you wouldn't know that because the school's Wikipedia has vanished.

So, why is John Burroughs Middle School suddenly undeserving of a Wikipedia page?

The original Wikipedia page had been around for many years.

At first, I assumed that it was a new Wikipedia policy that middle schools pages should be deleted. But Virgil Middle School, located 3 miles away, still has its Wikipedia page intact.

It seems bizarre that a noteworthy Wikipedia page can be erased from history. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WeNo1 (talk • contribs) 18:36, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

WeNo1, I don't know who told you that I deleted John Burroughs Middle School (Los Angeles) but I did not delete it. In fact it has never been deleted. I did redirect the article to the list of schools in Los Angeles. Any one can undo that redirect as the whole history is available if they feel the school is independently notable. I did not think there was enough there to say the school was notable. ~ GB fan 20:36, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

GB fan, What I mean by "deletion" is that the article is no longer available on the web -- unless you go to Web archives -- thus it's been deleted. Redirection is another way of saying "deleted." The page is no longer accessible to regular web users.

I think I've made the case that the school is notable. It has been used as a school representing a "high school" is several iconic films. In fact, I've made the case that the school is more notable than nearby Virgil Middle School, and nobody has opted to redirect that school's Wikipedia page.

John Burroughs Middle School even has a "fan page" devoted to its use as a school in the movies. http://www.iamnotastalker.com/2009/07/02/the-never-been-kissed-high-school/

Let me ask you this: Are regular users searching for info on John Burroughs Middle School better served clicking on a link that will lead to information about that school, or to a general listing of all Los Angeles Unified School District schools?

According to the "WikiProject Schools," "This project aims to improve the quality of school-related articles. Articles within the scope this project should become far more substantial than stubs, and ultimately match the quality of featured articles." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Schools#Project_goals

I think that Wikipedia page fit that description -- having more information is better than having less.

Finally, that Wikipedia page had been around for more than a decade. I think that, in and of itself, is an argument for its relevance.

So can I ask you to please restore the John Burroughs Middle School Wikipedia page?

Edit: Sorry: I accidentally deleted your original comment. I'm new to Wikipedia

WeNo1 (talk) 14:58, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

I still do not believe the school is independently notable. Having notable people attend the school does not make it notable. Being used as a setting in notable films does junior make it notable. Another a similar school not being redirected does not make it notable. Having a fan page does not make it notable. How long the article existed prior to being redirected does not make it notable. The only thing that makes a subject notable is independent reliable source significant coverage. There wasn't any when I redirected it and none has been presented. If it is available, present it so it can be evaluated. If you feel it is notable then restore it and then we can have a deletion discussion about it. I will not restore it. ~ GB fan 20:28, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

You are correct about Virgil Middle School. I don't see the notability of that school either. I have redirected it also. ~ GB fan 00:18, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

motivation speedy dalete

Hello, changes on the carnival page are continually erased. My contribution is independent and disinterested, I know the subject closely and the original page only serves to advertise a mafia event. On wikipedia the truth is not the propaganda of the people salaried by the organizers of the festival, who are also ignorant in the matter. Bringing the truth back is not vandalism!--Dufresne tim (talk) 12:07, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

What you know is not acceptable. You need to support what you add with reliable sources. If reliable sources do not discuss what you know, it does not belong. ~ GB fan 18:49, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

UrlSave

Hello,

I have added UrlSave an External Link for Social Bookmarking article. Please do not remove it. I want to spread the word about the service.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.253.198.40 (talk) 08:11, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not an advertising platform for you. If the site is notable write an article, then add it to the list. An external link to a site does not belong. ~ GB fan 10:31, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

Not sure if this needs a revdel

This article has some personal info at the bottom. With thanks. --QEDK (愛) 18:48, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

I took care of it. Thanks ~ GB fan 19:02, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. :) --QEDK (愛) 18:11, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Reliance Group Page

Hello,

I have redirected cto Reliance Anil Dhirubhai Ambani Group Redirection to a subsidiary page-- Reliance Industries did not make sense. Why have a redirect that creates duplicity of pages. There is already has a well-established page.

Also, the Reliance Group page is empty. I kind of agree with @Johnsonwatts: that this page should be deleted. Your thoughts? --Anrdshr (talk) 12:57, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Anrdshr, Without spending time researching the inter-relationships between these companies I do not have enough information to make any informed opinion on if the redirect was or is now a good redirect. My decline of the speedy delete had absolutely nothing to do with the redirect or where it was pointed. It had to do with the available speedy deletion criteria. The criteria do not allow me to delete it as implausible redirects can only be deleted if they are recently created and since this one was created in 2010 that is not recent. As far as it being empty, a redirect is never empty unless the article it points to is empty. In this case the article it pointed to was not empty. There are a few options that I can think of, there may be others. One is do nothing and let the redirect point where it was pointing. Another is to find a better target (you have changed the target). Another is to nominate it for deletion at WP:RFD. You could also make the redirect into an article if that is what you think is best. I am not going to take part in any of this unless it is renominated for speedy deletion, then I will decline the speedy deletion. ~ GB fan 13:17, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

@GB fan:

Hi,

I get your point. Will try to explain mine as well. Thanks for letting my redirect stay. --Anrdshr (talk) 06:20, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

Anrdshr I think GB fan has a protocol point. On introspection I did realize that speedy deletion shouldn't be the way over WP:RFD. Johnsonwatts (talk) 11:32, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

GB fan without getting into WP:RFD would do a page move on Reliance Anil Dhirubhai Ambani Group as per WP:MV. Following reasons: The new name subject has come into majority use. Will avoid confusion with the existing Anil Ambani page. Advise me if that's a workable solution. Thanks Johnsonwatts (talk) 11:51, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

Johnsonwatts are you asking for Reliance Anil Dhirubhai Ambani Group to be moved over the redirect and have a new name of just Reliance Anil Dhirubhai Ambani Group? As I said above, I do not know anything about these companies. Anrdshr what do you think of this move? ~ GB fan 12:31, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

GB fan appreciate your acknowledging this. So my point is there's Anil Ambani and there's another page Reliance Anil Dhirubhai Ambani Group. The overlap in the title is evidently advertorial towards an individual. Anil Ambani is a biography page for the owner of Reliance Group. So Reliance Anil Dhirubhai Ambani Group should be Reliance Group (even responsible media cites it that way). In essence, a page move from Reliance Anil Dhirubhai Ambani Group to Reliance Group which explains my request for speedy deletion that of course stands corrected after your argument. Anrdshr your views please too? Johnsonwatts (talk) 13:30, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

Request

I believe this should be suppressed. I haven't posted anything on the talk page of the user who made the edit. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:34, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

I have suppressed it and left a note. ~ GB fan 16:14, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:53, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

Request deletion

Darushfathi24 (talk · contribs)

Can delete this one?: click here. Thanks. - Prinsipe Ybarro ^{(Talk to me)} 12:28, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

You have tagged it with a valid speedy deletion criterion. You were hasty in your tagging though as the article was only 3 minutes old when you tagged it. Also it has only been tagged for about 7 minutes. Give the editor some time to work on the article. Nothing may come of it, but something may. ~ GB fan 12:32, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

I don't understand. Please delete my talk page.

I don't understand. Please delete my talk page.