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== San Francisco Treaty == |
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Is it proper to say "Taiwan was ceded by Japan in the San Francisco Treaty?" Taiwan was claimed by the Republic of China in the Cairo Declaration. |
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"It is their purpose that Japan shall be stripped of all the islands in the Pacific which she has seized or occupied since the beginning of the first World War in 1914, and that all the territories Japan has stolen from the Chinese, such as Manchuria, Formosa, and The Pescadores, shall be restored to the Republic of China." |
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<ref>http://www.ndl.go.jp/constitution/e/shiryo/01/002_46/002_46tx.html</ref> |
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So it is declared that Taiwan is a part of China since the Cairo Declaration is announced, instead of the San Francisco Treaty. Also, NEITHER PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA NOR REPUBLIC OF CHINA (that is, neither Mainland China or Taiwan) attend the conference where San Francisco Treaty was signed. Instead, both Mainland China and Taiwan declared negative comment on it in different levels |
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Asterisks?
The section on states that have full diplomatic relations with Taiwan/ROC has most of those states marked with an asterisk (*). This asterisk is never used for any kind of footnote or qualification that I can see. Why is it there? --71.183.40.220 (talk) 20:21, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
Recent edits
I did a round of copy editing on the article. It was full of references to "Republic of China" and "People's Republic of China". The "ROC" has this policy, and the "PRC" has that policy, etc. I don't think any mainstream English-language source uses the terminology this way. When discussing the pre-1971 period, the terminology "Nationalist China" and "Red China" is sometimes used. For more recent times, there is "Taiwan", and there is "China", and no RS calls them anything else. So I have made appropriate revisions. Kauffner (talk) 12:22, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
"ROC" should be used when referring to a government or legal entity
Though the term 'Taiwan' is sometimes used when referring to a government or legal entity on Taiwan, this is incorrect and doesn't belong in Wikipedia. Republic of China (ROC) is the official legal name, and should be used when referring to a government or legal entity. Check the official web page of ROC http://www.taiwan.gov.tw/mp.asp?mp=999 that it calls itself "Republic of China (Taiwan)". No government has recognized 'Taiwan' as a government. Wikipedia shouldn't be involved in creative usage of terms, or whether Taiwan is a state. Wikipedia should use official names, especially when it comes to diplomatic relations, which emphasizes formality.
'Taiwan' can be used to refer to a region.
I have made copy editing to reflect this usage, but it may be incomplete. Please help to make it more complete. Happyseeu (talk) 01:44, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
- This comes across as especially strange when it refers to countries "recognizing Taiwan" - when in fact they do no such thing; they simply recognize a different government of China than the one in Beijing. The difference here is more than semantic, given the ongoing disputes between pro-independence, pro-status-quo, and pro-unification elements in ROC-administered areas, and we should probably figure out a consensus on how to handle this. Kiralexis (talk) 05:21, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
Two Chinas
The listing on this article and the one at Foreign relations of China, stating which countries recognise which China, are different, and both lack sources. The only reason why I'm mentioning this is because the information has been added to the UN-related articles for the Holy See, Marshall Islands, Trinidad and Tobago, Tuvalu, and Vanuatu. So please settle this before taking the info, and any possible edit-warring to other articles. Thank you. -- 10:20, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Copyedit in progress
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inconsistent number of states recognizing ROC
I've seen in this article different counts for the number of states recognizing the ROC from twenty-one to twenty-three. Can someone check up on this and make sure that the article is consistent with a verified current count. - Metal lunchbox (talk) 04:56, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
Panama has switched recognition to the PRC as of 6/13/2017 Link. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.24.81.136 (talk) 05:45, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
Foreign Relations of Republic of China
There exists not such a article in English-wikipedia, not even redirect page? Is Taiwan Republic of China the name of the regime? What about the historical foreign relations of this regime? Jiangyu911 (talk) 08:18, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
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Statements about territories claimed by ROC
I removed a few statements that have been tagged as needing citations since 2010. I think 5 years is more than enough time for contentious statements to stay on Wikipedia with no one coming forward to cite support for them. If someone can identify appropriate sources for these statements, then of course they should be put back in. Benjamin Hurst (talk) 21:47, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
Part of the text is potentially misleading.
" In 1952, Taiwan was ceded by Japan in the Treaty of San Francisco.".
This statement, without clarification, would be quite misleading to someone not well-informed on the subject. The departure of the Japanese from Korea and Taiwan ( and other places ), was a mandatory stipulation of Japan's "unconditional surrender" in August 1945. I'm not too sure who was in charge in 1946 (maybe the americans), but the "Nationalist" chinese goverment took actual control of Taiwan in 1947, a situation which caused a lot of violence with people already in Taiwan, who might have been pro-independence or pro-communist. Taiwan had never been a part of the Chinese Republic before that, as it was taken over by Japan before the 1911 revolution. There was further disruption after another million or so Nationalist chinese supporters went to Taiwan in 1949.
The "Treaty of San Fransisco", which finalised the war between Japan and the US and most of it's allies, was a formality.
As it currently reads, the less-well-informed reader might get the impression that Taiwan was part of Japan until 1952, which really isn't true.Lathamibird (talk) 06:43, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
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Double entry of Bahrain
Bahrain is listed twice in this document: the first as Entities with non-diplomatic representation in Taiwan, the second as Entities with no representation in Taiwan. I checked and Taiwan has non-diplomatic relations with Barhain, since there is a ROC Trade Mission in Manama (capital of Bahrain). Should Bahrain be removed from the second list? 118.171.64.69 (talk) 16:59, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
Entities with non-diplomatic representation in Taiwan
Bolivia has a non-diplomatic representation in Taiwan, not listed here (search for: Representative Office of Bolivia in Taipei).
I didn't find anything regarding Sri Lanka, I guess they don't have any relation with ROC, but it is not listed. The same goes for South Sudan, no relations found. 118.171.64.69 (talk) 17:23, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
Asian Bureau of Reporters without Border opened in Taipei
https://rsf.org/en/news/reporters-without-borders-rsf-opens-its-first-asia-bureau-taipei (101.138.140.70 (talk) 16:13, 8 April 2017 (UTC))
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Is it proper to say "Taiwan was ceded by Japan in the San Francisco Treaty?" Taiwan was claimed by the Republic of China in the Cairo Declaration. "It is their purpose that Japan shall be stripped of all the islands in the Pacific which she has seized or occupied since the beginning of the first World War in 1914, and that all the territories Japan has stolen from the Chinese, such as Manchuria, Formosa, and The Pescadores, shall be restored to the Republic of China." [1] So it is declared that Taiwan is a part of China since the Cairo Declaration is announced, instead of the San Francisco Treaty. Also, NEITHER PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA NOR REPUBLIC OF CHINA (that is, neither Mainland China or Taiwan) attend the conference where San Francisco Treaty was signed. Instead, both Mainland China and Taiwan declared negative comment on it in different levels
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