User talk:Primefac

Protection request

Hi Primefac, it's me again, hope things are well. Please could you add protection to this school for vandalism for a set amount of time. I removed vandalism as well as unsupported parameters yesterday, but more being added again today which has been reverted by a bot and a user. Please let me know, thank you Steven (Editor) (talk) 20:46, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Steven (Editor), it may be resolved more promptly if you request it at WP:RFP, as I'm not sure if Primefac is online now. Vermont (talk) 00:43, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Steven (Editor), I protected it.--Dlohcierekim (talk) 01:32, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you Steven (Editor) (talk) 15:27, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Diff

Hi, not sure if this diff should be kept, deleted or scrubbed from the history. -- GreenC 13:58, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Door #3, Monty. Thanks. Primefac (talk) 23:04, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

On-wiki harassment

Would you please advise how I should react to on-wiki harassment against me? Is completely ignoring it the only recommended way?--Ymblanter (talk) 14:00, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

I honestly don't know; I've been trying to figure out how to get people to not be jerks online pretty much since the internet kicked off. It doesn't appear that in this case the issues can be "talked out", so my "first step" would indeed be to ignore them entirely. I know it sucks, but if you don't respond and don't make any references or inferences to them, when/if it continues you can show that they are the ones with the issue and sanctions can be potentially be levied. I think the largest issue right now (at least going on the section I hatted at AN) is that it's not entirely clear who is the "instigator" - your initial comments read like a criticism of the other user, which somewhat justifies their responses. If there's a clear "A consistently attacks B" demonstration, that makes any ANI case stronger. Primefac (talk) 16:08, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the advise. I actually already tried to ignore them completely, and they have been dragged to ANI twice recently for harassment against me and were told to stop, but did not stop, and, as you see, can show up anytime responding nonsense to my comments which are not even about them. But, well, I will try to follow ignoring them again for a while.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:49, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

@Ymblanter: (talk page watcher) Don't know if this applies, but sometimes the way to extinguish undesirable behavior is to not respond to it at all so as to not reward it. This becomes difficult if the desire for recognition causes the person to escalate in hopes of eliciting a response. But then one looks as innocent as a flower while selling rope, if you don't mind a hashed metaphor.--Dlohcierekim (talk) 20:58, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. I tried that, and it failed, but may be indeed I should try again.--Ymblanter (talk) 05:30, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Smash Wrestling

I have started an article on Smash Wrestling which you can see in my sandbox. I was informed that an article on Smash Wrestling was deleted because it was made by a sock user. I am wondering if I could get a copy of what was in there or if you could merge it with what I have in my sandbox. I see you are the deleting admin. Thanks. Mr. C.C.^{Hey yo!}_{I didn't do it!} 15:54, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Happy to send it via email. Primefac (talk) 16:38, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Request for reviving a deleted article

Hey! I created an article three months ago which was deleted. Now I want to work on this as reliable sources cover her. Northamerica1000 is on semi-wikibreak so I thought of contacting you. Dial911 (talk) 00:06, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

 Done. See Draft:Yashodhara Lal. Primefac (talk) 11:46, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Copyright issue... [Unfounded copyright issue with regard to Battle of Poison Spring page, please restore text]

I readily admit that I am a bit bewildered as to how OSU (or anyone else for that matter) could have merely scanned a U.S. government publication and then "copyrighted it" when federal laws and regulations read to the contrary. Copyright laws clearly state that any work created by a federal government employee or officer is in the public domain, provided that the work was created in that person’s official capacity.

In fact, every volume of The War of the Rebellion: a Compilation of the Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies that OSU's Department of History has scanned onto their site clearly states in the "[Preface]" that ... "By an act approved June 23,1874, Congress made an appropriation "to enable the Secretary of War to begin the publication of the Official Records of the War of the Rebellion, both of the Union and Confederate Armies ... " And because it is a publication in the public domain, numerous academics and nonprofits have repeatedly scanned these ORs and posted them to their respective websites.

Here are but two such examples:

• The War of the Rebellion: a Compilation of the Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies at Cornell University
• The War of the Rebellion: a Compilation of the Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies at Internet Archive

Please restore the Battle of Poison Spring text.

Lieutcoluseng (talk) 11:44, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Lieutcoluseng, you are correct, the text of the volumes are public domain. However, as near as I can tell the introduction to Volume 34, which was copied directly to Wikipedia, is not part of that text and therefore not under the same public release. Primefac (talk) 17:25, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Could you please semi-protect the two templates I created yesterday?

{{To USD/data/2017}}

{{International dollars/data/2016}}

HOTmag (talk) 19:50, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Declined – This template is not used widely enough to be considered a high-risk template. Primefac (talk) 11:37, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Is there a way to get a list of all templates/articles that use a given template? HOTmag (talk) 11:53, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Use Special:WhatLinksHere. If you're on the template itself, there's a link to the tool on the sidebar. Primefac (talk) 12:30, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for showing me the tool.

Is there a minimum quantity of transclusions for a given template, that justify its semi-protection?

So indeed, the tool you've showed me finds 18 transclusions for the last template {{International dollars/data/2016}} I've asked you to semi-protect.

However, as far as the first template {{To USD/data/2017}} (I've asked you to semi-protect) is concerned, the tool finds 170 transclusions for that template. Please notice that you have already semi-protected an analogous template, being {{To USD/data/2016}}, for which the tool finds less (=85) transclusions.

HOTmag (talk) 13:46, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

The semiprot was done to that template because (before you changed the master template) it was catching all of the "default" calls where a date wasn't selected, which gave it something in the order of 300 transclusions. We had an issue with vandals hitting these types of pages, which would then show inappropriate content on hundreds of articles, before it was stopped, so they were semi-protected. Now that you've made this change technically neither template needs to be protected, but removing protection from the other template isn't really necessary. Primefac (talk) 13:52, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – May 2018

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2018).

Administrator changes

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• The ability to create articles directly in mainspace is now indefinitely restricted to autoconfirmed users.
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RfA talk

Re:This edit, content was inappropriately removed just before the close and was being restored just as the RfA was being closed. It belongs in the RfA. Now you've removed it with another needless revert, without checking the history or facts, causing the page to be locked until May 9th. When the lock expires, please self-revert, and restore the content where it belongs. Thank you.- ^theWOLFchild 18:34, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Failed login attempt

There was a notification saying that my account had a failed login attempt. This is the first time I am experiencing such a thing. Should I be worried about? EROS ^message 06:51, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

@Heliosxeros: probably not, see Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Please help- who tried to break into my account?--Ymblanter (talk) 06:53, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, just some idiot trying to "hack" everyone's account. If your password is strong, I wouldn't worry about it (this time). Primefac (talk) 12:12, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Moonlighting Film Production Services, Genevieve Hofmeyr (Film producer), Philip Key (Film producer)

Hello Primefac

Thank you for your advice. I have written in the AFC and visited the Teahouse. I hope that there is an experienced editor to help in accepting my draft articles mentioned in the subject line above. The film producers on which I've written the draft articles are Africa's leading film producers; their website reveals an extensive list of prominent productions that they've produced, including major Hollywood blockbusters like "Mad Max: Fury Road", "The Avengers: Age of Ultron", "Judge Dredd", and smaller films like "Blood Diamond", "Safehouse", "Ali", "Amelia", and TV series like "Homeland", "Black Sails", etc. Anyway, thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

Mockby 123 (talk) 11:03, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

underage nudity

[1] Where was this discussed at exactly? Dream Focus 17:21, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

I know that I had a discussion with someone, somewhere, about the suitability of this image being used. However, I for the life of me cannot find it, and for that I apologize.

It's important to remember that context is also important when considering the validity of a "nude image" of an individual (see I know it when I see it). The image at Sophia Loren is not just an image of Loren in the nude - it's a screenshot from a film and there is context. Similarly, we have File:Virgin Killer.jpg, which contains an entirely nude child, but is acceptable because the context is as a CD cover.

The image itself is on Commons, which means that you'd have to go there to get it deleted entirely (which is unlikely since it's Italian in origin), but it's used on three enwiki articles and you would need to start a discussion somewhere to remove it entirely from enwiki (though personally I think you've got a rather uphill battle on that one). Primefac (talk) 17:48, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Template:Infobox martial artist boxrec links seem broken

Hi on Template:Infobox martial artist the boxrec links seem broken and the template is protected so I can't edit it. It tries to link to http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id={{{boxrec}}}&cat=boxer which from the article pages then just goes to the main page of boxrec instead of the fighter profile. See at the bottom of info boxes "Boxing record from BoxRec" like on Kyotaro Fujimoto for example. Suitable working link structure for the template I guess would be http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/{{{boxrec}}}
ShadessKB (talk) 14:12, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

@ShadessKB:  Fixed you can use an edit request to request an edit to a protected page Galobtter (pingó mió) 14:18, 7 May 2018 (UTC)(talk page watcher)

(edit conflict) I'm going to guess this is a {{tps}} thing but {{uGalobtter}} just fixed it. But yes, a {{TPER}} is great for those sorts of things. Primefac (talk) 14:20, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

about a deleted article

Hi, I found this article was deleted, just wanna know the detail reason and how to rewrite a suitable version. Thanks.Cycregrncy (talk) 08:51, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

Cycregrncy, the page was overly promotional, basically acting as advertising. Out of curiosity, how did you find the page? I'm always looking for information on how users navigate Wikipedia (I'm a stats buff) since it means we can continually make improvements for a better user experience. Primefac (talk) 11:44, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

Primefac, I remember I've found this article linked from other article before, then do some digging and found the delete log page, just wonder anything I can help to re-create this article. Cycregrncy (talk) 01:48, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Regarding a deleted template

Hi, I found that this template was deleted. I wasn't able to find the archive of the talk / discussion about this decision. This section in your page records comments by "only" two users. Can you please direct me to the archive of the discussion? If there is none, can you please show the relevant policy or guideline which allows a page to be deleted based only on two votes? --Cabolitæ (talk) 14:05, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

(talkpage stalker) click the link to the page and a link to the discussion comes up [2] Legacypac (talk) 15:13, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

Cabolite linked that discussion above, though their comment is a bit confusing. Closing it as delete with two !votes is fine at-least under WP:NOQUORUM Galobtter (pingó mió) 15:40, 8 May 2018 (UTC)(talk page watcher)

Two votes is pretty common at WP:TfD Legacypac (talk) 15:53, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

Yup Galobtter (pingó mió) 15:58, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

There were valid arguments made for deletion, and with no opposition deletion is generally the outcome of such requests even with low turnout. Primefac (talk) 16:02, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

Primefac, I don't find the arguments valid. I fail to understand what the argument is behind comparing a modern city (New York) with an old region that represented a cultural heritage and civilization. The two people who voted are likely to be unfamiliar with the Persian or Middle East history, and might be experts in other unrelated fields. Similar to other templates, this template intended to bring together all notable figures who originated from that region. It was meant to assist the readers to navigate. If you disagree with my observation, can you please tell me which of the guidelines the template violated?

How long was the page tagged for deletion? I assume the editors who are work on these topics did not see that the page was proposed for deletion.

It's been a while that I haven't been to wikipedia, and I'm behind many new developments here. So was it a soft deletion? Can I challenge the decision and request for the page to be restored? --Cabolitæ (talk) 09:14, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Also, I (the creator of the template) wasn't notified when the page was tagged for deletion, which violates the guidelines. --Cabolitæ (talk) 09:27, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

For what it's worth, notifying the creator is (at this time) not mandatory, so simply not being notified is insufficient reason to relist. The discussion was listed for 11 days before it was closed. However, in light of the large number of transclusions and the fact that I normally relist single-vote-discussions when that happens, I have relisted the discussion. Primefac (talk) 12:02, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. --Cabolitæ (talk) 13:37, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Khan long hin

Previously an AfC submission, I rejected it because it contains a list of it's "Process". However, a editor moved the submission from draft into mainspace. What could be done? EROS ^message 17:38, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

If it's notable, not much to do other than clean it up. If it's not notable, take it to AFD. Primefac (talk) 17:43, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

Request for restoring Parchayee if possible

Hello. You deleted this page Parchayee few minutes ago and as far as reason is, the creater of this page i.e, User:KuchNaya is not blocked by any admin. Please recheck again and restore that. Thank You. That was a drama serial page currently being airing on Hum TV — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.160.118.192 (talk) 18:34, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

Sorry for distrub you. You deleted this page Parchayee and as far as reason was, the creater of this page i.e, User:KuchNaya is not blocked by any admin. I also mention above this but i think you did'nt noticed. Sorry again — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.160.118.192 (talk) 19:19, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

The "creator" of the page added almost no content, and the vast majority was added by the now-blocked socks. Additionally, while the user in question might not be technically related, their overlap with the other now-blocked users makes me think that if it's not sockpuppetry it's definitely meatpuppetry. Primefac (talk) 12:14, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Mervat Abou Oaf

It looks as if you and I have accidentally been at cross-purposes. I think that the problem is that she re-creates the draft in user space and tags it for AFC, and I then move it to draft space and decline it. Please salt. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:52, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

If they do it again, I'll just block for copyright violations. Primefac (talk) 19:09, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for thee!

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		Thanks for catching the dubious claim on my Rank Organisation file. For you! In Memoriam A.H.H.I am good at fighting windmills.. 07:07, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Can't receive emails, can you summarize?

I don't use that email currently, can you summarize what your message about AFC was? MatthewVanitas (talk) 23:44, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

MatthewVanitas, just wanted to check in with you on some AFC stuff, I've received inquiries regarding some of your recent draft acceptances; things like Naiboi (which was both copyvio and incredibly promotional), and drafts that are sourced almost entirely to wikis (or other non-RS). You're one of the "old guard" when it comes to AFC reviewing, so I was a bit surprised when I saw some of the pages you accepted. Primefac (talk) 12:01, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Got it. My overall response would be that due to the absolutely ghastly backlog, my quality rate is lower than it would be if we only had a few hundred backlog. I'm churning out a lot of these AFCs as quickly as I can, and since other AFCers have emphasized that we should not be holding back articles on format issues but rather focus on Notability/BLP/CV as triage, I'm sure I've had some slip through that should not.

I'll fully accept blame for any I've messed Notability on, since I'm generally pretty good about sussing RSs out, but if someone is pretty clever on making things look kosher, some slip through. So far as CV, and I realize this is a controversial opinion, I really don't think it's feasible (especially at this moment with the backlog) to run a CV check for each individual article. There appear to be at least some 'bots active on WP for CV issues, so unless something egregiously smells like a c/p of another source, I don't feel it's feasible to run full checks as an AFC reviewer. Automated CV checks are exactly the kind of precise and objective work 'bots are suited for.

So those are my general thoughts, but I'll turn up my pickiness re sourcing to lower my error rate on Notability issues. Thanks for the nudge. MatthewVanitas (talk) 00:49, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Cool, thanks! Primefac (talk) 11:32, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Johnny Hon

Hi Primefac,

I saw that you've reverted "Johnny Hon" Page that I have been editing. Is there any chance that you can undelete it and let me reedit it if there's any inappropriate? I would also like to know the reason why you have reverted it as I have already insert references to support and it's not in promotional content anymore. I'm happy to make changes upon your request, thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gowiki1 (talk • contribs) 02:42, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

@Primefac — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gowiki1 (talk • contribs) 07:01, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Gowiki1, the text you added was copied directly from Hon's biography, which is not acceptable. Everything must be written in your own words. To save a bit of time with the references, I have put them on the draft talk page for easy re-use. Primefac (talk) 12:25, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Weird, Popflock

I recently encountered this website which copies my wikipedia talkpage to date. Link: ( http://www.popflock.com/learn?s=User_talk:Ernestchuajiasheng ) EROS ^message 08:41, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, there are a lot of weird Wikipedia mirrors that for whatever reason feel it's perfectly normal and okay to just blanket copy our databases. Unfortunately because that site properly gives attribution, there's really nothing we can do about it. Primefac (talk) 11:31, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Deletion of draft

Hope you are feeling well, i am feeling very helpless and requesting please guide me. You deleted draft created by me namely, draft:Noor ul Ain which was earlier also created by me and you deleted on article space on 8 May 2018, after that today its also created by me. I've done one mistake of using same wordings but please forgive me. You deleted because that was earlier created by now block user on 19 February 2018. Will you restore that please. You can also check version of Noor ul Ain which was deleted on 19 february and it will look different because that was not created by me — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.160.118.147 (talk) 15:40, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

math error

Your bot produces math errors: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Schoof%27s_algorithm&diff=840520048&oldid=840162123 --Boehm (talk) 20:22, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

I hadn't accounted for that, though I suspect the number of cases where that will happen is minimal. I also doubt the "correctness" of having <math> tags in a header anyway, but that's likely why the template was deprecated in the article space. I have no doubt there are instances the bot "fixed" but should not have actually been converted to true headers, but undoubtedly the Gnomes will take care of it. Primefac (talk) 21:51, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Annette Lee

Dear Sir,

1. Greetings from Singapore
2. I would like to seek your supervision to work on a revision done by another user https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Annette_Lee&oldid=840499750
3. It had been deleted by another editor, but i would like to understand how i can improve on his work.
4. I would be so grateful if you can guide me to work on the revision
5. Thank you Iz55 (talk) 12:08, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Content disputes should be dealt with on the talk page of the article in question. In general, though, I am always in favour of removing unsourced or irrelevant material from articles. Primefac (talk) 12:10, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your guidance. I have added the proposed content onto the talk page and added a requestedit. thanks so much! Iz55 (talk) 15:57, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Since your guidance, I did not add new content to the article, but since then only made the punctuation/grammer/POV edits in line with the wikipedia guidelines. Thus, i wonder if my article has now addressed the maintenance tags issues. I have also added a discussion onto the talk page on notability. I wondered if you could take some time to see if it meets the guidelines now, or how i can improve. Thank you. P.S Chrissymad said they still do not meet guidelines, but she did not elaborate though i had asked a few times. I understand she must be busy but i will be so grateful if someone can guide me how i can improve. Thank you Iz55 (talk) 15:50, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

I had gotten help from the teahouse already. thanks so much!!