Talk:Marvel Cinematic Universe

Photo copyright

There is no way the infobox photos is copyrighted, right? Seems like it is the definition of just being text.

File:Marvel Cinematic Universe logo.png

Unless someone objects, I will find a higher resolution and amend the copyright status. Kees08 (Talk) 06:20, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

There is File:Marvel Cinematic Universe.png but MOS:TVIMAGE prefers the actual intertitle over user recreations.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 15:13, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

@TriiipleThreat: Well, we should be able to just remove the fair use rationale from the image. It is literally just text, there is no fair use required. I just wanted to have a little discussion before I did it; I am going to be bold and do it now, anyone can revert me and we can continue the discussion if necessary. Kees08 (Talk) 08:46, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

I uploaded to Commons, but for some reason cannot get that version linked correctly in the infobox. Anyone want to give it a go? We can delete the fair-use version one as well. Kees08 (Talk) 08:58, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

To close out this, I uploaded it to Commons, a DR was filed, the DR was closed delete, a UDR was filed, and the file was restored. The fair use image was removed from enwiki and we are now using the Commons version. Kees08 (Talk) 19:23, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Update for Stark's armor?

In the cast listing for Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers 4, Stark is noted as having "electromechanical suits of armor". But we see that he has updated his armor significantly, similar to that of the 'Bleeding Edge' armor from the comics, that is nanotechnology based and stored in the new arc reactor he has in his chest. Perhaps these film pages and any other related articles should be updated to reflect that? (here's a ref) I know there are some regular editors that maintain these pages, so I figured I'd suggest it here. Cheers - ^theWOLFchild 00:59, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

I'm okay with a slight reword if necessary. Or simply dropping "electromechanical" as the adjective. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 03:20, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Dropping it, or trading it for something generic like "highly advanced", or something along those lines? - ^theWOLFchild 04:41, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Yeah. Because one could ~presume~ that even though we don't see it, he could still have non-nanotech suits. That's a stretch of a justification, but I hope you get the idea. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 04:52, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Maybe high-tech, “highly advanced suit of armor” could still mean late Middle Ages.—TriiipleThreat (talk) 09:35, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Whatever you guys think works. I just think that the later articles, like A:IW 3 & 4 should somehow reflect the updates to his armor. The media is talking notice, as seen in the ref I added above, so perhaps we should should as well. - ^theWOLFchild 14:28, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Another way to go would be mentioning it in the plot as opposed to the cast credits, eg;

• Strange recruits Tony Stark, who has a new, upgraded armor stored in an arc reactor worn on his chest. Maw and Obsidian arrive to retrieve the Time Stone from Strange, drawing the attention of Peter Parker. Maw captures Strange, but fails to take the Time Stone due to an enchantment. Stark and Parker, equipped with new Stark-designed armor, pursue Maw's spaceship, Banner contacts Steve Rogers, and Wong stays behind to guard the Sanctum.
  (This is a section of the current plot from Infinity War. Suggested additions are in green with links.)
  Thoughts? - ^theWOLFchild 04:16, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

I think it’s best we change the cast discription. We can also added sourced information about specifics of the upgrade.—TriiipleThreat (talk) 07:56, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

Fine with me either way. - ^theWOLFchild 08:16, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

Digital series

I am unfamiliar with the term 'digital series' and can't find a definition anywhere on WP. What does it mean exactly. I am not a video game user and so I wonder if that is what is meant. Best Regards, Barbara ✐  ✉ 12:50, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

It's just a series of videos made for digital release (on YouTube, for example). It doesn't really qualify as a web series, which is a full television series released online. - adamstom97 (talk) 09:30, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Images

I am adding this here since it sort of applies to all of the pages across this topic, and hopefully somebody has the time to go through all of them (or at least a section or so) and sort this out. It was pointed out to me at WT:ACCESS, during an unrelated discussion, that there is a potential accessibility issue at some of our articles such as Production of Avengers: Infinity War and the untitled Avengers sequel. Namely, that we haven't been doing a great job of including alt descriptions with images. We just need to go through the pages and make sure that anything not really conveyed by the captions on images is being described in an alt so that people who can't see the images get an equivalent experience to everyone else. - adamstom97 (talk) 09:41, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Mention of a course teaching about Marvel - trivia/undue?

Re: [1]. Fair enough, I see some media mentions, but it seems like WP:TRIVIA/WP:UNDUE to mention this stuff. It is, after all, a single university course, a curiosity, but nothing much more. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:02, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

the opening sentence about Phil Coulson is not valid

Phil Coulson, portrayed by Clark Gregg, is an original character to the MCU and the only character to appear across all the different media of the MCU.

should be changed to

Phil Coulson, portrayed by Clark Gregg, is an original character to the MCU.

Agent Carter has appeared in all the media that Phil Coulson has. You could take it one step further and remove that line all together but thats up to the editors to decide on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:569:7C20:CF00:38F9:77D9:28DF:29A9 (talk) 02:03, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Statement is valid. Peggy Carter never appeared in a digital series. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 03:11, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 June 2018

I noticed that the fourth Avengers film was titled Avengers: Reassembled. However, the title for this film has not been announced yet, so I suggest changing the title in the table from "Avengers: Reassembled" back to "Untitled Avengers Film". Bocks89 (talk) 19:52, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

 Done L293D (☎ • ✎) 00:14, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Avengers 4 Retitling

It looks like Avengers 4 has been retitled to Avengers: Fallen Heroes here, making it multiple times this has happened. I suggest changing it back and locking down the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.77.111.16 (talk) 18:07, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

That is from vandalism at the list of films page. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 18:53, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

It seems that the Avengers 4 cinematographer potentially leaked the title being Avengers: End Game, which lines up with everything Kevin Feige stated about the project, and was quickly taken down, meaning that this certainly could've mean an actual leak. At this point, I think it would be safe to say it is Avengers: End Game. [2] Bringmethearchitects (talk) 20:03, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Still just a rumor. Also, the Russos debunked that title months ago [3]. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 02:50, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

We should wait for official confirmation. While it may have been legit and the latest iteration of a title they were working on, that doesn't mean it was necessarily finalized. If it was a slip of the final working title, the studio will likely confirm it in the next few days or weeks. --GoneIn60 (talk) 14:49, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Diverse characters

I have just read that Black Panther’s Success ‘Emboldened’ Marvel Studios to Tell Diverse Stories and The MCU Will Soon Introduce Two LGBTQ Characters, Feige Promises. Is it good enough for inclusion, or should we wait until they actually do it? Also, is "diverse" an advisable word to use in wikipedia's voice, or is it just a politically-correct term? Cambalachero (talk) 12:47, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

There is already at least one LGBTQ character in the MCU. Virginia Gardner's character Karolina Dean in Runaways is lesbian.[4]

The MCU is full of LGBTQ characters, but their lack of representation on the film side could be noteworthy. Discussion on where such information could go will be required. As for the term "diverse", I don't know what the official stance on this across Wikipedia is but I am personally against using it in any way that does not make sense based on the actual definition of the word (for example, the Black Panther cast is actually not very diverse at all since most of the actors are of the same race, so we have avoided that term at the Black Panther article in favour of more accurate descriptions). - adamstom97 (talk) 14:24, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

I wouldn't say the MCU is "full" of LGBTQ characters (without viewer interpretations). Gonnym (talk) 14:39, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

The media usually focus in the films and ignore TV, so yes, if this issue advances in the films it will be noteworthy, regardless of the TV series. Take for example the all-black cast of Black Panther. Why did it had so much praise, if Luke Cage already had one? Because one is a film and the other a TV series. It may be unfair, but it's the way it is. Cambalachero (talk) 14:49, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

I don't doubt the media focus on film more than they do TV - it sells more and it boosts the reviewer's status as well. To add to that, this is Netflix which is even on a lower-reviewer scale than TV shows are (Netflix episodes don't usually even get separate news articles). I don't disagree that the Black Panther cast did a great job, but ignoring the TV side of the MCU just because you seem to belittle it, ignores the fact that its inherently part of the MCU. Also, a quick google search provided me with [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10] - so yes, people were talking about the black themes of Luke Cage. --Gonnym (talk) 17:34, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Obviously "full" was an exaggeration. Regardless, it is clear that a lot of people do ignore the TV shows, and have been concerned with the lack of representation in the films. If we were being consistent with ourselves then the place for information like this would be here, but I am wondering whether a little bit of rejigging is required since we are ending up with a lot of film-specific criticism at this article but trying to keep TV-specific criticism at the list of TV shows; perhaps we need to move some of the film-specific stuff to the list of films? - adamstom97 (talk) 22:49, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

We can simply describe the concerns about the lack of diversity in the films, and the projects to fix it; and then point that the TV series already featured some of this stuff. Besides, if we have some source that points the obvious fact, we may also point that the lack of diversity was already a problem in the source material (the lead characters, Stark, Rogers, Thor, Banner, Dr. Strange, Spider-Man, Scott Lang, etc. were all white males in the comics to begin with, most diverse characters other than Black Panther are just secondary characters or legacy characters of a white male hero) Cambalachero (talk) 15:43, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

Adding future release dates

Hi, I'm sorry to ask this but I was wondering if the release dates for the unknown MCU films after Avengers 4, Spider-Man 2 and Guardians 3 should be included to the list of MCU films? Temporarily listing them ("Unknown Marvel/Disney film") until Marvel/Disney reveal what the actual titles for those movies on those dates actually are? - RVDDP2501 (talk) 22:52, 10 July 2018 (UTC)