Talk:Jared Taylor

Bibliography

This briefly came up at least once before, but should the 'Bibliography' section be limited to books published by reputable independent publishers? Taylor is the president of the New Century Foundation, which is listed as publisher of all of his books of the last twenty years. As far as I know, there is no specific guideline for this, but typically WP:SPS works are not included in such sections. Grayfell (talk) 19:20, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

We should include books that are strongly related to his notability, or are clearly due the emphasis through independent, reliable sources. Other than that, I'm unaware of any general consensus for including entries in bibliographies. --Ronz (talk) 19:47, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

We need to take care not to provide publicity for his self-published books. Rivertorch^FIRE_WATER 04:23, 7 May 2018 (UTC) Added: Actually, I don't really care whether they're self-published. If the a book itself isn't notable and isn't written by someone who has attained notability as a writer, it's doubtful that we should mention it. Rivertorch^FIRE_WATER 04:28, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 May 2018

Taylor is not a "white supremacist." He is a "white advocate." Calling him the former is tendentious. FustelDeCoulanges (talk) 03:28, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

 Not doneWe follow sources like CQ Press. CLICK HERE to see why..--Moxy (talk) 03:47, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Reopen the "white supremacist" label discussion?

Now that Rockypedia has been banned after being exposed as a sockpuppeteer, I think it might be worth it to see what the consensus is without him and, possibly, the other accounts he was using to agree with himself. NFLExpert49 (talk) 19:21, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

I don't see any of his socks editing this page. But check for yourself. Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Rockypedia/Archive. Doug Weller talk 19:45, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

• @NFLExpert49: Please post new comments on the bottom of the page, per WP:BOTTOMPOST.

Reopening this based on this one issue seems like a poor use of everyone's time. Many experienced editors in good standing contributed to this. Grayfell (talk) 19:56, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

I agree. This has been talked to death, and consensus here is very clear and not dependent upon the contributions of one user. Rivertorch^FIRE_WATER 05:07, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Agreed. Looking at the OP's edits, this is more about Rockypedia than Jared Taylor. Doug Weller talk 13:28, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Agree. Nothing has been offered to suggest there's any problems with current consensus. --Ronz (talk) 14:55, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 July 2018

Change "White Supremacist" to "White Nationalist". Psychoticflora (talk) 15:43, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. L293D (☎ • ✎) 16:28, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

Terms

Ok we seen to be having a problem with the wording again! can we get all to read the RfC and then comment here.--Moxy (talk)

Removal of reference

Re: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jared_Taylor&oldid=prev&diff=852251297 I was asked to clarify. If you follow the reference it goes to a Google books page, specifically one of the book's reference pages. One of the listed references appears to be the actual reference that should be used. However, if you try to follow that reference it leads to a dead page. In neither instance does the location the link ends up at meet the standard of a reference, so I removed it. It seems pretty straightforward to me but if reference pages and dead links are now okay for Wikipedia then by all means, keep the reversion, I've noticed an overall lowering of standards on the site in step with the increased politicisation of certain pages. Yb2 (talk) 10:27, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

He may not reply....but would likely point you to Wikipedia:Link rot.--Moxy (talk) 12:21, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Taylor asserts

The article states "Taylor also asserts that there are racial differences in intelligence among the various ethno-racial groups across the world." Um... excuse me? TAYLOR ASSERTS that? He's the one who asserts that? This article seems to assert that he just pulled that assertion out of his backside because he can read IQ statistics and takes note of their blindingly obvious conclusions (the sophistic blabber and mental gymnastic explanations of liberal academics notwithstanding). The article also claims that he supports the White genocide conspiracy theory. He does point out the statistically projected demographic fact that all people are European descent are headed toward extinction, however, he does not personally use the term "White genocide". I do not believe this article is intentionally a smear, but many reasonable people may see it that way. I do heavily dispute the neutrality of this article, however. It does appear to have been written by people who do not care for him. 184.53.33.235 (talk) 07:38, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

1. hes own words.
2. Just a play on words [1] quote""I agree that 'genocide' is too strong," wrote Jared Taylor, editor of the pseudo-academic journal, American Renaissance. "It sounds like people attacking us with machetes and pitchforks. I think simple 'dispossession' is better. Also white nationalism sounds pretty stern, I think white advocacy sounds less scary but says what we want to say."

--Moxy (talk) 16:40, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

"White separatist" - description in first line

Taylor is on record as saying he advocates separate race-based polities for those who want to, including whites or blacks. So "white separatist" would probably be more accurate than "white supremacist". He may well be a secret white supremacist (as might any white person), but .r calnot on record as saying so. I've no interest in living in such a place, but it's anybody's right wto do so if they want, and their stated views should be honestly represented. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.90.209.29 (talk • contribs)

Need sources. EvergreenFir (talk) 18:46, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

• https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/26/jared-taylor-alt-right-clinton-trump

https://www.cnet.com/news/white-nationalist-jared-taylor-american-renaissance-sues-twitter-for-account-suspension/ https://www.wnyc.org/story/what-white-separatist-expects-trump-administration/

There are three reliable sources per Wikipedia policy calling Taylor a White seperatist. Anything but "White supremacist". For God's sake, that label needs to be retired. It is a totally unhelpful, insanely stupid term to describe the extremely valid concerns felt by tens of millions of people of European heritage all around the planet (and growing exponentially). It may not be what Jared would identify as. But literally anything could can think of would be more accurate than "supremacist" nonsense. 184.53.33.151 (talk) 11:02, 3 August 2018 (UTC)