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Kawartha Credit Union article declined

Hi, I am confused and disappointed that you have declined to have this article. There are many referenced and verified sources in it. I do not believe it reads like an advertisement. It is factual, concise and sourced. This is a very large credit union that had an article on wikipedia for well over a decade before it was deleted. Without any specific feedback I can't change it.

Draft:Retford_King_Edward_VI_Grammar_School

Hello, I think I've followed all your advice since you originally rejected https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Retford_King_Edward_VI_Grammar_School. I'm waiting patiently for it to be re-reviewed, read the guidance, tried the IRC - any other advice please on improvements I can make? ~~

Walter Granville-Smith

Thank you for reviewing the article! BinaryPhoton (talk)Binary Photon

Dr. Roger A Ramsammy

What makes a college president noteworthy or not? I patterned this article somewhat on our local university president - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Havidan_Rodriguez. Would more information about his scholarship and doctoral research be helpful? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zippylips (talk • contribs) 14:33, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

He would need to have been the subject of multiple in-depth articles in newspapers, magazines, with notable awards etc. Theroadislong (talk) 14:57, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

Would the article not qualify based on the Notability (academics) criteria #6? - The person has held a highest-level elected or appointed administrative post at a major academic institution or major academic society.? Zippylips (talk) 14:26, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Zippylips Is Hudson Valley Community College a major academic institution or major academic society? Theroadislong (talk) 17:35, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Well, that's subjective of course. Hudson Valley Community College is one of the largest community colleges in the State University of New York system and has the largest population of undergraduates in New York's Capital Region. I'm sure it's larger than Cape Cod Community College, whose president https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Kraus is listed.And our enrollment is on par with Fort Hays State University in Kansas, whose two most recent presidents are https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirta_Martin and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tisa_Mason Zippylips (talk) 18:32, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Thomas Nail

Thank you for your feedback on "Draft:Thomas Nail". The article has been rejected twice but no one has told me how to fix the issues. One comment suggests that academics need a "named chair" to be listed, which is clearly no the case for most entries. Another says I need reliable independent sources that are verifiable—but that was what I thought I just added with links to peer reviewed journals, etc. I am super confused. Other entries are way less supported than mine. Can you tell me specifically what I need to do here? Its all so mysterious. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RyanHSanborn (talk • contribs) 02:40, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Also: I read the wiki instructions and its pretty clear that the article meets at least one of the academic criteria listed: "The most typical way of satisfying Criterion 1 is to show that the academic has been an author of highly cited academic work – either several extremely highly cited scholarly publications or a substantial number of scholarly publications with significant citation rates. Reviews of the person's work, published in selective academic publications, can be considered together with ordinary citations here. Differences in typical citation and publication rates and in publication conventions between different academic disciplines should be taken into account.

I have linked to google scholar and academia.edu to verify this. Thomas Nail has a book, The Figure of the Migrant, cited 285 times (which is a lot for philosophy books). He also fulfills the other named criteria of "unique" contribution that can be verified by reading the linked book review of Theory of the Border- where the reviewer clearly states the original and unique contribution of a whole new conceptual framework. Check it out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RyanHSanborn (talk • contribs) 03:22, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Please read this: I am pasting here the explicit criteria on wikipedia for academic notability and precise how Thomas Nail satisfies this: WP:NACADEMICS: Academics meeting any one of the following conditions, as substantiated through reliable sources, are notable.

1. The person's research has had a significant impact in their scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources.

"The most typical way of satisfying Criterion 1 is to show that the academic has been an author of highly cited academic work – either several extremely highly cited scholarly publications or a substantial number of scholarly publications with significant citation rates. Reviews of the person's work, published in selective academic publications, can be considered together with ordinary citations here. Differences in typical citation and publication rates and in publication conventions between different academic disciplines should be taken into account.

To count towards satisfying Criterion 1, citations need to occur in peer-reviewed scholarly publications such as journals or academic books. Publication and citation rates in humanities are generally lower than in sciences. Also, in sciences, most new original research is published in journals and conference proceedings whereas in humanities book publications tend to play a larger role (and are harder to count without access to offline libraries). The meaning of "substantial number of publications" and "high citation rates" is to be interpreted in line with the interpretations used by major research institutions in determining the qualifications for the awarding of tenure."

Here is how criteria number 1 is verified:

a) follow the link "highly cited" to google scholar and see that there are several "highly cited" books and many well cited peer- reviewed articles.

b) follow the academia.edu link at the bottom to see that Thomas Nail has over 4,000 followers with a quarter of a million downloads.

c) when determining "highly cited" consider 1. that philosophy has much lower citation rates than the sciences, 2. that books are much more important that articles, and 3. that Thomas Nail is a tenured faculty, meaning that he has published enough to be considered to have made an impact in his field.

d) view his CV on academia.edu to see the 10 books he has written and over 30 peer reviewed articles and major conferences and full range of interviews.

Let me know what you think — Preceding unsigned comment added by RyanHSanborn (talk • contribs) 03:50, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Language

Good afternoon, I'm a new user in Wikipedia and I've just created my first page, which you said it's not acceptable because it's not written in English. How can I do it to change my settings so my page is accepted in Catalan Wikipedia? I'd appreciate any help, I'm quite lost Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Miasanlle (talk • contribs) 16:46, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

You would have to join the Catalan Wikipedia site here [1]. Theroadislong (talk) 16:48, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

I see that you have re-submitted it instead which is pointless. Theroadislong (talk) 16:51, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Submission declined on 6 November 2019

Hi,

Whats is a major problem in my content. please how to solve these issues. I submitted any wrong thing. 

Please explain and solve this ASAP.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChilakamarthiPrabhakar (talk • contribs) 11:06, 9 November 2019 (UTC) 

Ashley Liz Cooper

Hi, Thank you for reviewing the article. I used the reference for all independent news magazined including Maxim to prepare this document. Could you please share how can i make it better for review?

Thank you for helping.

Cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arsalan-akhtar-ON (talk • contribs) 21:55, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

How does sandbox work?

We had this school project to make a wikipedia page. How to start? Setsura (talk) 12:41, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Creating a new article is the most difficult task on Wikipedia, so with only one days experience I would suggest you try something a little easier first! The sandbox is a place to test out your edits. More help here Help:My sandbox. Theroadislong (talk) 13:17, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Command: modern operations

Hey theroadislong, thanks for reviewing my article. There are not many external references to the game yet so I'll wait until it is published and then see if I can find some. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bathtubwiki (talk • contribs) 12:29, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Ranu Mondal page

Sir i think this page needs a attention, this person had enough coverage https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ranu_Mondal# — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rocky 734 (talk • contribs) 12:40, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for the welcome!

Appreciated! DarknessHorses1989 (talk) 18:52, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Proper editing protocol

I'm sorry for the trouble, when I'm adding notations and citations relating to the MGD page, I thought just internally linking the page itself was enough.

Are you saying I need to both link to MGD, and then use the original citations from that page again on the other wiki pages I'm linking to and explaining MGD's basic tenets, so that those basic tenets are properly re-cited again on each different page?

Thank you and sorry again Harvard2TheBigHouse (talk) 16:03, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Harvard2TheBigHouse Yes that would be excellent, I was just about to have a look at MGD page to see if there were suitable sources there, but I am sure you understand it better so will leave it to you. All good wishes. Theroadislong (talk) 16:08, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Ah okay no worries, I'll go back and add the appropriate secondary source links wherever I've linked to MGD, hopefully the other mods can give me a few minutes to add those in. Please feel free to ping me if you still think anything is inappropriate, and sorry again for the trouble! Harvard2TheBigHouse (talk) 16:11, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

my edit on hazing

hazing does have these instances and i request you undo your unfounded changes as this is an accurate representation of hazing in Greek-Life — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.109.73.223 (talk) 16:35, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

All content requires independent sourcing, rather than personal knowledge, sorry. Theroadislong (talk) 16:36, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

help with the MGD page

If you happen to have a moment, I'd be very open to any Wiki help pages or other guidance you could provide to help better that page I've been working on: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum_genetic_diversity

Thanks again!! Harvard2TheBigHouse (talk) 20:10, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

You might find help at Wikipedia:WikiProject Science. Theroadislong (talk) 20:13, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Rejection "Flooring"

Hello,

I am new. I just want to make sure I understand. I didn't think that I put any links on that page.

Please advise. Thanks, Patrick — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mosfco (talk • contribs) 19:15, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

You added a reference that looked like a commercial link to me? Namely https://www.southcypress.com/Page-Not-Found.htm Theroadislong (talk) 19:20, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Theroadislong: Are you sure it was the Page-Not-Found.htm page??? --CiaPan (talk) 21:42, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

That's where it redirects to, for me. Theroadislong (talk) 23:02, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thank you for taking the time to review the submitted article and leaving notes. Much appreciated. Jabez317 (talk) 10:52, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Deleting an article.

Theroadislong I wanted to ask if you have any objection with deleting the Kent Tate article? I worked on some updates and improvements but have been informed that the page does not meet notability according to Cullen328. I thought that issued had been overcome by going through the AfC process. Apparently I am mistaken about that so it makes me wonder what the point of the process is... I have gotten weary with trying to defend the article and make improvements. I am not really experienced with the level that is like needed and my efforts just seem to make others double down. My edit requests have been meet with much resistance. My most recent request resulted in more information being hollowed out of the article by Spindindo much to my dismay. Not that I am seeking any sympathy from you because I am not. At this point, the article really doesn't provide coherent information about the subject. I can't edit the article and it has been suggested by Cullen328 and David not MD that I leave it alone. I would like to delete it and if you could help me with that great. If not then I would like to know if you would likely contest it. I do appreciate that you've invested time into approving it and other things related to it but it really has so little content it seems pointless to even have the article plus the talk page is a humiliation for me. Thank you!LorriBrown (talk) 01:23, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

The article appears to be in good shape and would in my opinion survive an afd. Theroadislong (talk) 08:27, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Reason for decline

Dear Theroadislong,

Greetings Of The Day!

This is to enquire the real reason for deleting Poonam Dubey Designs request page as all relevant data was published. The designer had to use Poonam Dubey Designs instead of her real name viz Poonam Dubey because the said name was already taken by some regional movie actress. So request you to kindly reconsider the application submitted.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Poonam Dubey Designs (talk • contribs) 08:18, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Your draft has no reliable sources which is why it was declined. Theroadislong (talk) 08:29, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Re : Revisions declined

Hi,

Would like to bring to your kind attention, that ALL the references are from SOURCES that Wikipedia has WHITELISTED, with a few references from Government Websites. The language in the revised content does not suggest any kind of promotion or marketing, but has been drafted factually, in a neutral, fully reliable and completely verifiable manner, citing extensively from sources that WIKIPEDIA has listed out as PERMITTED. I request you to kindly review the revisions in the light of this submission.

Chenjo9 (talk) 11:13, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Sorry I disagree, The draft reads just like an advert, Wikipedia is NOT a reliable source (you have used it twice) and general listings are not suitable sources, we require multiple in-depth coverage. Theroadislong (talk) 12:31, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Chenjo9 for what little it may be worth, I have also reviewed the article and came to the same conclusion as Theroadislong. I also removed some internal references to Wikipedia articles as this is not permitted. Regards  Velella  ^{Velella Talk}   12:39, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

my article

so i did mine and it was rejected immidiately. why?

"Youtube is not a reliable source"

I agree. Each individual channel within YouTube should be evaluated as reliable or unreliable, noteworthy or not-noteworthy - just like other user-generated content. Wikipedia has precedent for allowing references to YouTube videos when they have been determined as relevant and noteworthy: these are two examples, out of several hundred Wikipedia pages that have cited YouTube videos, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebecca_Black, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Night_with_Seth_Meyers.

I recommend, in the future, you don't dismiss videos from YouTube simply for being from YouTube, and instead give a reason why the specific video is reliable or not reliable. In the case of Pashon Murray, whose page you rejected, the video in question was a Ford Super Bowl commercial which featured Murray. I believe this was notable. If you do not, you should say why not, instead of simply referencing YouTube. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skinnertdesign (talk • contribs) 20:39, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

It might be better used as an external link in an external link section, a Ford Super Bowl commercial is a primary source, we would need independent sources that discussed Murray's involvement in the commercial. Theroadislong (talk) 21:23, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

I know now

ah i see that was my sandbox and i was supposed to make a seprate article for that. i really wanted to but...every time i search for it, im redirected to cheetah mobile's wiki page ---OTFTYT (talk) 20:55, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Second opinion for AfC draft

Hey Theroadislong, I was hoping you could look over this draft article at Draft:Diego Tryno. Ignoring any POV in the article as of now, do you think the subject meets WP:SINGER criteria 1? I've been discussing the references with the original author on my talk page, and I believe that there is a good reason to view some of the Zimbabwean magazines provided as reliable, even if they appear to glorify the subject. I originally interpreted these as gossip magazines, and therefore couldn't be reliable. Apparently, this is not an uncommon practice for news sources from Zimbabwe. Because of this, I feel like it would be fine to accept the article based on these premises; I will just need to take out the POV in the Wikipedia article and try to write from an objective stance. The big thing for me is that the subject apparently does not have any awards, and his music has not appeared on any Zimbabwean music charts, so it would have to be passed through criteria 1 of WP:SINGER only. Regardless, it would be really helpful if you could look at the article and related discussion and provide your feedback; I want to make sure this is the right decision. Thanks, Utopes (talk) 23:06, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

@Theroadislong:. One final alert in case this passed under your radar. Could you take a look by chance? Thank you, Utopes (talk) 23:03, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

William Oliver (artist, born 1823)

Hi Theroadislong. You moved this to the mainspace which is fine, but I'm wondering if you'd mind taking a look at WP:AN#Draft:William Oliver (artist, born 1823). There's something kind of unusual about the page history of the article, it that the creator seems to have been using that particular draft page like a sandbox. They would work on a draft for one subject, blank it when finished, move the page, and that start working on a draft for another subject. It seems the repeated this same process multiple times which means that the page history is sort of split among different subject matters. Maybe this is no big deal, but I'm never come across such a thing before so I'm not sure if it's an issue. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:31, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

Yes that is very confusing, I've left a note on his page, not sure what can be done about it now though. Theroadislong (talk) 16:38, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for taking a look. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:33, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

Rodgil Flores

I was apparently reviewing this draft at the same time you were. I found good evidence of notability in the sources. Additionally there are now 7 incoming links to the article, also a good informal indication of its viability. ~Kvng (talk) 17:54, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

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Draft:Reuven Wimmer

Hello,

I just wanted to reach out re my submission which was rejected. Reuven Wimmer is a notable Hebrew writer - when you google his name tens of thousands results come up. He already has a Hebrew Wikipedia page. He is now starting to write and publish his work in English so he would like an English wikipedia page. What can we do to make this happen?

Thank you.

Your draft Draft:Reuven Wimmer has no independent sources so no chance whatsoever of being accepted. Wikipedia has no interest in what the articles subject wants to say about himself, only what reliable sources have reported.You will need to declare your conflict of interest too. Theroadislong (talk) 15:30, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Reviewing new (draft) article

hello Theroadislong,

Could I please ask you to review and comment on this draft article? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Hanoch_Senderowitz

Many thanks, Uw0v5033 (talk) 16:42, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

@Theroadislong: The source of the line Hanoch Senderowitz is married to Vicky, they live in Tel Aviv and have 3 children. was taken from a Hebrew document. Since I can not find it online (and in English), I omitted it in the meantime. Thanks, Uw0v5033 (talk) 19:04, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Sources do not need to be in English or online but they do need to be published. Theroadislong (talk) 19:13, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

@Theroadislong: Thanks for letting me know. Is this article ready to be submitted? Uw0v5033 (talk) 15:13, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Henrich Bankole Akomolafe

how can you help me with this article,

am not the owner am a news writer (henrich akomolafe)

Quick draft question

On this draft you commented in June "I would be happy to accept it now", however it's still in draft space. Is it just a matter of moving it to Annona hayesii? I'd do it myself, but I know there's a helper script draft reviewers use and I don't want to muck anything up for you.-- Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 23:50, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

I'm never sure how to accept drafts that are not submitted, I have moved it into mainspace, but feel there might have been a better way to do it, I will have to research.Thank you for the heads up. Theroadislong (talk) 08:05, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! -- Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 21:58, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Rejection of Capricorn (ensemble) draft

Thanks for reviewing this draft. I would be grateful if you could let me know why the references do not qualify. To my understanding, the Capricorn ensemble is not just a passing mention in The Guardian and Financial Times articles, in particular references 5, 7, 9 and 10. These are full articles reviewing concerts given by the ensemble in the 1980s and 1990s. The newspapers and the authors are not affiliated with the ensemble. Cvuo (talk) 14:41, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

It wasn't clear to me how they passed WP:Notability (music). Theroadislong (talk) 14:48, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Don't the references above fulfill the first criteria 'Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works...'? Moreover the albums mentioned in the article are released on indie labels (Hyperion and Bridge Records) with a history of more than a few years with a roster of independently notable performers. Cvuo (talk) 16:51, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

You could be right, I can't tell if the sources are in-depth because I am not subscribed to the website. Feel free to re-submit and I'll let another reviewer take a look. Theroadislong (talk) 16:57, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

I have re-submitted the article. Thanks for your advice. Is there a better way of citing old newspaper articles when the physical copy is free to access in some public libraries but online access requires subscription? Cvuo (talk) 17:52, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Thomas Nail

Can you please respond to my previous notes? RyanHSanborn (talk) 02:58, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

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help please: Claude Kipnis submission

Hi. The submission I made was a compilation of information from the NEW York Times and Newhouse Newspapers, (both sources cited) and from colleagues and friends of Mr. Kipnis. I am trying to be transparent. Please advise. Ravewyk (talk) 03:59, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

Your draft User:Ravewyk/sandbox has no content? Theroadislong (talk) 08:34, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

Ravewyk My apologies for not noticing your hidden text, please read WP:REFB for help with formatting sources and note that Wikipedia cannot be used as a source, you should aim for at least three reliable sources to establish notability. Please re-submit when done. Theroadislong (talk) 09:50, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

Please review your comment on a declined submission

You have recently declined a submission of User:Ravewyk/sandbox in the version Special:Permalink/927605445. There was quite a lot of text there, but it was misplaced in the {{User sandbox}} template and you might have not noticed it — at least your comment suggests so.

The text was not ready yet to be published, so the submission should be declined anyway, but I'm asking you to review your comment so that it reflects the actual issues with the User:Ravewyk's submission. I have re-inserted the contents and formatted it a bit (Special:Permalink/928177323), so it is visible now at User:Ravewyk/sandbox.

CiaPan (talk) 09:17, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

Rejection of Silver Magazine

Hi- firstly thanks for looking at this so quickly. I'm sad it's been rejected though

I did declare my interest - we are publishers of this magazine. But I have seen thousands of other magazine listed on Wiki and would like to be clear about what it is that we've done that is deemed blatant advertising when the others aren't.

I'm totally happy to work within your guidelines of course! And I tried to be as passive and neutral as possible - although it's obviously hard when I'm excited about this! But this magazine really is different to its competitors like Saga. I think it deserves a place.

And our readers have vouched for this - they really feel patronised by other magazines and are excited to see a pioneering publisher create something new for them. I can offer some testimonials from objective readers if it helps?

What can I do?

Thanks for your help

Samhlowe (talk) 11:51, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia only reports on what published reliable sources have said about a subject. You will need to find multiple high quality in-depth, reliable, independent and secondary sources to establish notability. This is not a venue for telling the world about your new project. Theroadislong (talk) 11:59, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

I have reliable source to change any article.

The person Sri Sambhulal Chakma personally called me.
I am helping him to add some details on Wiki.
So I have reliable source. If I will changed anythings.

All content requires a citation to a "published" source, personal knowledge even directly from them is NOT acceptable. Theroadislong (talk) 15:16, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

Thomas Nail

Hi Theroadislong,

Thanks for your suggestions to cite my sources. I have now added tons of citations on everything I could. What do you think?

Let me know. RyanHSanborn (talk) 03:39, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for the help

Hi,

Thanks for your help on the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Isaac_Adeola_Odeyemi, followed your suggestions and removed the links to wiki.

C