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Missing Variety Show "A Style for You" 2015

Can we please add "A Style for You" under the list of variety shows that Heechul was a part of? He was one of four hosts for the show that ran on KBS2 between April 5, 2015 through to June 21, 2015.

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I have added it. Thanks for the info! Yannaynay (talk) 19:37, 22 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"Accident" section

The section on Heechul's 2006 car accident didn't have any citations and I'm concerned that there's a lack of reliable information on this topic anywhere online. A lot of it seems to be rumour. As it is, I have added two citations, but they're not very authoritative, so I would invite anyone who can provide better sources or info to do so. Yannaynay (talk) 19:37, 22 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Short lead section

The lead is very short compared to the length of the article. Moreover, it only talks about his music career, with no information about his entertainment career. For example, Kim Jong-hyun, his article is about the same length, but the lead is long enough to summarize everything. ~~ CherryPie94 🍒🥧 (talk) 11:12, 24 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Update: Tried adding more to the lead section. If you have a better idea or can help organize and fix if further, please do so. ~~ CherryPie94 🍒🥧 (talk) 17:55, 24 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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There is edit war on this article specially by a user and the others users need keep undo the edit made by him/her. dating info doesn't need to be included on personal life, please refer to Kang Daniel for the reference as he also date someone from the same group. Therefore to avoid the war, this request been made … Lucia kwon (talk) … 16:18, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Did you mean to request page protection? The user in question is already autoconfirmed so that wouldn't prevent them from editing the article. Just write on their talk page explaining your reasoning for the reversion (which no one seems to have done yet) and invite them to follow WP:BRD and discuss on this talk page. – Thjarkur (talk) 09:37, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Personal life section

There is an edit war on this section and to stop that, this talk section is made to follow WP:BRD. I understand the concern of the person who insisting to put it there, i guess is to tell the info that Kim Hee-chul is taken and who is he dating. However, the dating info is not a permanent information that always in the end later will be delete when they break up. Is better to put the information on wikipedia that already permanent or has an official legal document such as marriage or divorce. I understand why they use Kang Daniel as example since he also dating someone that is also come from a same group as someone that Kim Hee-chul dating with. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Timing999 (talk • contribs) 00:54, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Timing999, it is nice that you have this opinion, however this is not consistent with Wikipedia's policies. The information in the personal life section is referenced and in my view is relevant to the article. Just because you feel that "the dating info is not a permanent information that always in the end later will be delete when they break up" does not mean you can unilaterally implement your personal views. If you do not like Wikipedia's current policies; feel free to change them. Until that point, the information (which is relevant, referenced, and neutral) should stay. Jack Frost (talk) 01:06, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Timing999, Jack Frost, i actually agree with timing999. As in korea itself, idol dating news is sensitive and the idol itself is reluctant to talk about it. It not fully relevant so i believe to put an information when is permanent is more neutral than putting info that might will be deleted one day. If one day the person and his girlfriend is married, this dating info sure will put it back to strong it article. for now the most neutral way i believe is to not put the temporary information.Lucia kwon (talk) 01:27, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lucia kwon “idol dating news is sensitive” is not a valid argument per WP:CENSOR. The norm is to add such facts on the article as seen in almost all artists’ articles on Wikipedia, be it a Korean artist or western artist. It is well sourced and is a fact. See Sulli, Goo Hara, Hyuna, etc. What I don’t understand is that not one tried to blank the section on momo’s page, but here we have edit warring. ~~ CherryPie94 🍒🥧 (talk) 01:36, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

CherryPie94 it is a fact but is different, a western celebrity such as Brad Pitt that has known celebrity relations (including one he married) that extend his entire career and includes significant headlines is indeed relevant ("importance in context"), he talks about these relationships in Hollywood and his family. A Kpop star that dates another Kpop star with minimal news is not. They are allowed to date but they rarely talk about it. Meanwhile, you can see Korean celebrities with longer and more notable public relationships such as Lee Min-ho and Bae Suzy, not have it listed on either individuals pages, so why should it be any different in this case. In fact, relative unknown people policy would have us "exercise restraint and include only material relevant to the person's notability". Editors are responsible for subjective contents, notability should be permanent and not temporary, i.e. if its notable that this relationship is mentioned, it should be listed there even after they break up, no point of deleting it afterwards, Wikipedia is not a reporting website for current events only. Actually i don’t know they will be have edit warring but is better to have conclusion on it matter.Lucia kwon (talk) 02:01, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

CherryPie94 i got your point, but is like it said. Only having a news of confirmed dating it has no notability to the defining aspect of the subject in the article. If we talk about Sulli, Goo Hara, Hyuna dating news is very different, the dating news have a very importance context as it a reason of the malicious comments they received and the career change that have very big impact toward their life and entire career. The relationship between Kim Hee-chul and his respective couple here is purely trivial and not even fully relevant or notable to the subject in the article. Therefore i don’t think dating should be included for now.Timing999 (talk) 06:19, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Timing999, Lucia kwon Seems like this is a much bigger issue than just Heechul's page. If you want to remove dating info from all Korean artist, we need to discuss this here: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Korea. ~~ CherryPie94 🍒🥧 (talk) 16:57, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

CherryPie94 it is, but for now let’s focus to this article. I don’t ask for all korean to remove the dating info even i wish they are. now i see this article having a war for this particular info and the one who keep revert the dating news is only one person it seem when the other want the info not to be there and so do i since this info is does not fully relevant and notable like i has state above and help by Lucia kwon , it’s obvious i will vote them. According to wikipedia when one person keep reverting one thing that others revert it back, that means she or he are repeatedly changing content back to how he or she think it should be. Looking at history i seen that other editors disagree so they revert the info from her or him, i also see that person has got twice of three-revert rule warning which mean only this person is so persistent to put it back. So i hope this reach a decision/consensus to resolve this issue and whether we should include the info or not.Timing999 (talk) 14:45, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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 ::: {{u| CherryPie94}} i got your point, but is like it said. Only having a news of confirmed dating it has no notability to the defining aspect of the subject in the article. If we talk about [[Sulli]], [[Goo Hara]], [[Hyuna]] dating news is very different, the dating news have a very importance context as it a reason of the malicious comments they received and the career change that have very big impact toward their life and entire career. The relationship between [[Kim Hee-chul]] and his respective couple here is purely trivial and not even fully relevant or notable to the subject in the article. Therefore i don’t think dating should be included for now.[[User:Timing999|Timing999]] ([[User talk:Timing999|talk]]) 06:19, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
 ::::{{u|Timing999}}, {{u|Lucia kwon}} Seems like this is a much bigger issue than just Heechul's page. If you want to remove dating info from all Korean artist, we need to discuss this here: [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Korea]]. ~~ [[User:CherryPie94|<span style="color:#ffeeee; background:#a80000; text-decoration:inherit">CherryPie94</span>]] &#x1F352;&#x1f967; ([[User talk:CherryPie94|talk]]) 16:57, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
-:::: {{u| CherryPie94}} it is, but for now let’s focus to this article. I don’t ask for all korean to remove the dating info even i wish they are. now i see this article having a war for this particular info and the one who keep revert the dating news is only one person it seem when the other want the info not to be there and so do i since this info is does not fully relevant and notable like i has state above and help by {{u|Lucia kwon}} , it’s obvious i will vote them. According to wikipedia when one person keep reverting one thing that others revert it back, that means she or he are repeatedly changing content back to how he or she think it should be. Looking at history i seen that other editors disagree so they revert the info from her or him, i also see that person has got twice of [[Wikipedia:Edit warring#The three-revert rule|three-revert rule]] warning which mean only this person is so persistent to put it back. So i hope this reach a decision/consensus to resolve this issue and whether we should include the info or not.
+:::: {{u| CherryPie94}} it is, but for now let’s focus to this article. I don’t ask for all korean to remove the dating info even i wish they are. now i see this article having a war for this particular info and the one who keep revert the dating news is only one person it seem when the other want the info not to be there and so do i since this info is does not fully relevant and notable like i has state above and help by {{u|Lucia kwon}} , it’s obvious i will vote them. According to wikipedia when one person keep reverting one thing that others revert it back, that means she or he are repeatedly changing content back to how he or she think it should be. Looking at history i seen that other editors disagree so they revert the info from her or him, i also see that person has got twice of [[Wikipedia:Edit warring#The three-revert rule|three-revert rule]] warning which mean only this person is so persistent to put it back. So i hope this reach a decision/consensus to resolve this issue and whether we should include the info or not.[[User:Timing999|Timing999]] ([[User talk:Timing999|talk]]) 14:45, 26 April 2020 (UTC)