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Dispute resolution

I filed a request for dispute resolution here: [1] Your input on the problem is requested. Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:57, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

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First autopsy claim of homicide

Hey, I couldn't find the word homicide in the first autopsy report:

https://www.hennepin.us/-/media/hennepinus/residents/public-safety/documents/floyd-autopsy-6-3-20.pdf

and

https://web.archive.org/web/20200604001830/https://www.hennepin.us/-/media/hennepinus/residents/public-safety/documents/Autopsy_2020-3700_Floyd.pdf/

Could you show me where it claims it is a homicide, or alternatively, where an additional source reports that the autopsy reports it as a homicide?

Thanks.--TZubiri (talk) 17:24, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Read wp:primary, WE USE SECONDARY SOURCES [[2]], "Two autopsies both find George Floyd died by homicide, but differ on some key details".Slatersteven (talk) 17:32, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

I saw the autopsy is already cited directly twice in the article. I think this is one of those cases were the source is a hybrid between primary and secondary, put in other words, the primary secondary distinction isn't clear cut. Something similar happens with judicial processes.

In any case, assuming that it's a primary source, and relying on then secondary sources, there's a couple of different takes that imply a conflict:

From the vice reference already present in the lede: "The medical examiner’s preliminary findings noted Floyd had underlying conditions like coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease, according to the complaint. The complaint also said that based on preliminary findings, there wasn’t any evidence to support traumatic asphyxiation or strangulation, and instead speculated that Floyd’s pre-existing conditions, the police interaction, and “any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death.”" And the cnn source cited in the autopsy section: "-- It says Floyd had underlying health issues: "The autopsy revealed no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation. Mr. Floyd had underlying health conditions including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease." -- It says three factors contributed to this death: "The combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by the police, his underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death."

I think it's best to focus on presenting the two main POVs represented by both autopsies, instead of focusing on how some sources represent the conflict differently. In this case I think I accidentally avoided the 'homicide' contention in the second rewording by avoiding the use of the word homicide to describe the first autopsy. Thanks for the attention. --TZubiri (talk) 17:49, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

No we present what RS say (see wp:or) not what we think might be relevant.Slatersteven (talk) 17:50, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Of course we only add content present in sources... What content have I added to an article or proposed to add to an article that is not backed by a source? I'm not sure I follow.--TZubiri (talk) 18:20, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

I did not say source I said RS. If RS say X and your interpretation of a wp:primary source says Y, you do not get to add it (see wp:or).Slatersteven (talk) 11:39, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

List of time travel works of fiction

There is already a discussion at the Talk page for the list; I initiated it roughly a month ago now and nobody responded. I don't see how it is reasonable to ask an editor to remove problematic entries with singular edits versus a single larger edit when the entries are combined into a list that makes individual editing difficult as-is. You are welcome to restore, with sources, any entries that you feel should be considered time travel works of fiction, but if you continue to restore entries without providing sources, when the article has been tagged for needing such long-term, then you are effectively violating WP:BURDEN as well as WP:LISTV. Please stop. DonIago (talk) 15:16, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

That does not mean a carte Blanche for mass removals. If you had removed (for example) only that films about dream, no issue.Slatersteven (talk) 15:17, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

As evidenced from my edit summary, I couldn't tell from the descriptions which films actually involved time travel and which did not. I invite you to bring your concerns to the article's Talk page. DonIago (talk) 15:19, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

"allowing him to travel back in time to just before an earthquake created by Lex Luthor.", that does not tell you its about time travel, or "in the 17th century who has been sentenced to death for witchcraft, is transported to the 20th century", seems pretty clear to me.Slatersteven (talk) 15:25, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

As I said the issue is not that all of your removals were incorrect, just that some were.Slatersteven (talk) 15:29, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

I mean, seriously, did you even read some of the descriptions or articles before decreeing "its not about time travel"?Slatersteven (talk) 15:50, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

Sorry if I messed up your Stefan edits

I didn't think anyone else would be editing besides me and didn't account for someone joining. I was trying to make the opening paragraph more concise. GreenFrogsGoRibbit (talk) 11:32, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

its relevant detail.Slatersteven (talk) 11:32, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

I'm sorry. Feel free to revert my edits if you want. I was just trying to make the leade shorter.GreenFrogsGoRibbit (talk) 11:38, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Bangladesh Liberation War

Looks like we are nearing a consensus. Won't you make a comment now? Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 05:17, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

Indentation

WP:THREAD gives a very clear guideline for indenting comments. This doesn't fit with that. One very unnecessary revert. (Somehow I feel that editors at IPA are pretty revert-happy already.) Let's have a Y cup of tea in the name of better indentation in future. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 10:14, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

Yes, you indent to reply to the post you are replying to.Slatersteven (talk) 10:18, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

bros article

hi their I noticed you commented on post, what are you not sure about and what can I do to improve source — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:3136:4500:ED89:CF30:324A:32D (talk) 14:27, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Read wp:rs, I am not sure any of those pass muster.Slatersteven (talk) 14:33, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

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Repairing format in Charlottesville article

I'm trying to sort out the mess that existed. Please refrain from reverts until I'm finished. I hope you didn't leave the "Bustle" source, which violated Wikipedia conventions, editing practices and copyright law, and extensive quotes. Activist (talk) 13:46, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

OK< as its a WIP I shall leave it, by the way, you should have left this on my talk (not user) page.Slatersteven (talk) 13:52, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi. Sorry about leaving it on your User page. I started sorting out the article a couple of hours ago, and was distracted and confounded by the long quote and bizarrely formatted citation to the Bustle article. They were probably done by a new editor who was oblivious to editing practice I should have ignored that, and just proceeded with the other edits. I see you've made 26 edits and presume you've done an excellent job on the article. I'll get back to trying to sort out the remainder of the problems. I had started with removing errata such as the colors of vehicles involved which much have been copied directly from the police report(s). I've confused things by opening and working on two different edit pages at once. Thanks much for your patience.Activist (talk) 14:58, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Okay. Hopefully, that sorted things out. You are no doubt vastly more familiar with the situation, the sequence of events, and likely even a much better understanding of the locus of the episode. I absolutely defer to your judgment. Activist (talk) 16:22, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

P.S. Just realized what "WIP" means. Thanks again. Activist (talk) 17:07, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

FYI

I came upon your page while surfing the 'pedia, and wondered if you knew about the {{semi-retired}} template/the term "semi-retired". This makes more sense than "MR SLATER IS RETIRED AND ON A WIKI BREAK, HE WILL KEEP EDITING, BUT HE IS RETIRED" --I dream of horses (Contribs) Please notify me after replying off my talk page. Thank you. 07:30, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Its a piece of satire, a joke.Slatersteven (talk) 12:47, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Just for information

Hello and Greetings,

I thought to include James Randi in see also of Superstitions in Muslim societies after I came across his mention in an Arabic news article of Egyptian modernist, who campaigns against superstitious practices among Muslim societies.

Just wanted to keep you informed about how I gave a thought to include, although I do not insisting to retain it.

Thanks Bookku (talk) 03:35, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Normally see also are for oblivious links or very similar things.Slatersteven (talk) 12:39, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

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Its not nonsense

Its not nonsense. If you do not like it that is your problem.178.148.109.252 (talk) 18:21, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Read wp:or and wp:rs.Slatersteven (talk) 18:24, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Stay retired

If you are retired, you should not keep reverting proposals.178.148.109.252 (talk) 18:37, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Its a joke, as I would have thought was quite clear.Slatersteven (talk) 18:38, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

If you want more jokes create art. on him.178.148.109.252 (talk) 22:10, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

What? On who?Slatersteven (talk) 10:19, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

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Persecution of Christians

Yes, that is persecution. See my discussion on the article's talk page. 216.14.157.170 (talk) 15:53, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Then wait till you have consensus.Slatersteven (talk) 15:55, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

British Big Cats

Hi, not sure what went on there with the British big cats article because I had definitely tried to revert the edit that added those things, maybe the timing conflicted with your edit or something.QuintusPetillius (talk) 14:06, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Maybe, but if an edit is reverted it should not be reinstated, rather it should be discussed at talk. Just because we already have crap sources in an article is not an justification to add more.Slatersteven (talk) 14:12, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

ESPN

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Proxy editing

Hi - please don't offer to make edits on behalf of a blocked user, as you did here. This may be seen as proxy editing or meat puppetry. Thanks. — O Still Small Voice of Clam 14:38, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

OK, its not, as I would make the same offer to any editor who could not figure out how to right a proper article that is policy complaint. If they can show notability it seems to be we should have an article. Its not as if I have shown them any kind of sympathy. But if you think it breaches policy I wont, its no great skin of my teeth.Slatersteven (talk) 14:43, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Minor barnstar
	i am just kidding Srijan Suryansh 08:55, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

nothing

	nothing
	nothing Srijan Suryansh 09:00, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

What the hell?Slatersteven (talk) 11:56, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea

Shame about the good ship 1RR being run aground by that naughty editor (https://en.wikipedia.org/?diff=989890899). In other news, I see that enwp's version counter should be adding another digit within the next few months. EEng 20:18, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

re: Nov 2020

Good evening,

Please notice how my action was right: actually I just corrected the wikilink (not the text shown), as usual, to the right page in order to avoid a link to a redirect. Thank you for you attention --80.116.94.166 (talk) 19:02, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Now it does. At first you changed the name, not just the link.Slatersteven (talk) 19:05, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Ya, but I was referring to my last edit (pardon, I thought it was obvious/assumed), as I was already aware of it thanks to your "instructions" you let me in the history page ;) Have a nice evening --80.116.94.166 (talk) 19:28, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

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Please excuse my editing your comment in RfC about withdrawal vs violation terminology and POV

Good morning Slatersteven; Please excuse my editing your comment in RfC about withdrawal vs violation terminology and POV: I do realise that editing someone else's comment is not normally appropriate! It was simply to correct a typo in the spelling of my username, and I hope you will not mind. With friendly regards, Springnuts (talk) 11:23, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Nope.Slatersteven (talk) 11:24, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Abusive Language

Recently a Ravi Mavi abused m3 om Talk page of Tomara As he couldnt counter with me with Relaible sources. Anyway I request you to block him as he is also a Caste Boomee who target me again and again. He abused me about My Race So kindly look For It i will not Tolerate Abuse from Such peoples on Wikipedia either block me.Samboy 01681 (talk) 10:19, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

I am not an admin, I cannot block any one. If they made a wp:pa against you take it here wp:ani.Slatersteven (talk) 10:23, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

irresponsible and adamant activity by User:Slatersteven|Slatersteven

Notice for irresponsible and adamant activity. I will report to wikipedia admin for not taking the serious edit request seriously, not respecting the reader and edit requests properly. Misusing the editor power and working on nepotism and negligence towards fair and valid edit requests. Unilaterally blocking the edit request. You need to behave yourselves.

Please do so, here is the correct place to report a user wp:ani, note I am not however (for one things, there are othr issues with your "report") an admin. So before you report me make sure you have a valid case.Slatersteven (talk) 16:08, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Trump philanthropy

Hi, i responded in the talk section of the article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Donald_Trump#Foundation_%3E_Philanthropy. Not sure how to @ you in Wikipedia