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The North Star

I was surprised to find we have no article about The North Star (modern newspaper) (not sure that's the best title). Of course, this would be a somewhat challenging article to write from a NPOV, given the strong views and the ongoing emergence of the site and facts about its short history. Has there been any effort to start such an article yet? -Pete Forsyth (talk) 18:13, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Peteforsyth: I moved the the bits of king's website on the north star page here becasue ti was out of place. But i agree tehre should be a separate page for it the north star (website) maybe? Blindlynx (talk) 16:20, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Reference not made to his numerous calls for violence and recent calls for the destruction of churches and Jesus statues. Extremely biased to paint him as a hero with little context to support said bias. Role in initiating riots also not mentioned 71.215.128.35 (talk) 14:30, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please find a reliable source for the changes you wish to be made. Britmax (talk) 14:34, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 15:46, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Removing "pastor" designation

It seems appropriate at this moment to remove any mention of Shaun King as a pastor. After his open calling to violently "rip down" religious statues, he would not qualify as a pastor, all of whom are designated teachers of moral compassion and understanding. Calls to violence against any religion is sacrilegious to religion itself. For the sake of accuracy, the "pastor" title needs to be removed.

https://nypost.com/2020/06/23/shaun-kings-calls-to-remove-jesus-statues-lead-to-death-threats/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by MiamiTimmyTurner (talk • contribs) 22:44, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

We did not give him the title pastor, and neither is it in our gift to take it away. If reliable sources say he is one, or that he is no longer one, we go with what they say here. Britmax (talk) 23:46, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Shaun White has tweeted to smash church windows as Jesus was a white guy. This should be reflected in his Wikipedia profile Kathy1gail (talk) 00:38, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 01:06, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The material is already in the article at Shaun King#Twitter comments on Jesus St Anselm (talk) 06:22, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Current text reads:

"Although the name of Jeffrey Wayne King appears on King's birth certificate, his mother told him that his actual biological father is a light-skinned black man."

It should read:

"Although the name of Jeffrey Wayne King appears on King's birth certificate, King claims his mother told him that his actual biological father is a light-skinned black man."

That is what the reference document say. 71.120.2.107 (talk) 18:56, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done. The cited source is King himself, not King's mother. I phrased it "stated" instead of "claimed", to be a bit more neutral:

"Although the name of Jeffrey Wayne King appears on King's birth certificate, King stated in 2015 that his mother told him his actual biological father is a light-skinned black man.[3][4]"

- CorbieVreccan ^☊ ☼ 23:15, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Conservative as a pejorative

I have just clarified something about the recent white Jesus claim. I have no intention of getting involved in the barmy world of US politics and social justice activists. Nonetheless, this article does seem to use "conservative" as a pejorative term & it is important to note explicitly that his white Jesus theory is not just disliked by conservative twitterati but is also academically dodgy. (I do wish the demagogic flashpan of inanity that is social media could be put back in the bottle but that bird has flown - mixed metaphor) No need to inform me of the ArbCom sanctions regime - I know of it and in any case see my opening statement here. - Sitush (talk) 07:58, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Someone reverted me claiming irrelevance. I have reinstated purely because I presume they have not seen the above explanation. There is clear relevance in my mind but I'm prepared to let it slide if a proper response is given. - Sitush (talk) 03:20, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

So "someone" is me and I didn't say the info was irrelevant. I said "That's all relevant for the article on white Jesus, which is linked here, but not for King.". This is an article about King, not the concept of the white Jesus or academic opinions about it. King isn't even an academic or produced scholarly works about the topic. If people want that sort of information, they click on the wikilink that is provided and go to that article, where is correctly belongs. To use your theory, shouldn't we have a paragraph or so about the history of Morehouse College when it's mentioned? Niteshift36 (talk) 14:08, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Evidence of Black heritage

this proposition seems unsupported:

"Family members and classmates have stated that they understood King to be biracial growing up.^[1]^[2]"

First of all, those citations do not seem to say that anywhere?

Second of all, what "family members" plural? I did see something from his wife elsewhere on web, but nothing else. Nothing from his brothers, the late Jason King and veteran/electrician Russ King. Nothing from his mother. Nothing from Jeffrey Wayne King, man listed as father on his birth certificate.

Third of all, we would need a citation for this "friends said" assertion, if we can find one.

Why does this sentence remain on Wikipedia? Bhdshoes2 (talk) 23:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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this article needs to draw attention to the whole reason this man became famous, by pretending to be a different race than he actually is 2600:1700:34B0:1520:2974:9296:B332:F8E6 (talk) 22:28, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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+this article needs to draw attention to the whole reason this man became famous, by pretending to be a different race than he actually is
-Strange that this whole article talks about race relations and racial crimes and racial diversity yet never mentions King's race (white) [[Special:Contributions/2600:1700:34B0:1520:2974:9296:B332:F8E6|2600:1700:34B0:1520:2974:9296:B332:F8E6]] ([[User talk:2600:1700:34B0:1520:2974:9296:B332:F8E6|talk]]) 22:28, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
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