Talk:Alberto Ascari
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Internal Favors
Can someone explain to me what "internal favours" means in this context? And how it would relate to stopping a race car?
- I think it was meant to say "internal failures". But the text was removed in November 2004 anyway. DH85868993 (talk) 09:27, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Fastest laps
I have changed 'succession' to 'successive races' - I assume that was what was meant, rather than six progressively faster 'fastest laps' all in one race, as I took it to mean at first. MRacer (talk) 17:55, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
Antonio
Forgive my ignorance, but how did Antonio win "13 championship Grand Prix" when he died in the first year of the World Manufacturers' Championship which appears to be the first 'Grand Prix' championship? He might very well have won 13 Grand Prix, but then Alberto probably won twenty five-plus without the championship qualifier (Wikipedia in general having a very one-eyed approach to non-championship GPs, sadly - for example, no mention is made of the form of Ascari in the Lancia early in 1955 at Turin, Pau and Naples). I can't see how these numbers are the same without some heavy juggling, though I'm open to correction Baron Von Joy (talk) 15:25, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
- I've removed the statement. I've also removed the statement that they both drove car number 26 - in those days car numbers changed from race to race, so the fact that they both drove a car number 26 during their career is mere coincidence. DH85868993 (talk) 10:38, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks! It amazes me people need to reach when there are already enough uncanny coincidences. While I've heard it in several places elsewhere it'd be nice to pin down what event Antonio had an escape in four days before his death too... Baron Von Joy (talk) 19:35, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
- Done a minor tarting up, largely tidying up a few paragraphs. There's some good nuggets in Racers about his father putting him in a car at an early age and his son's brief motorsport career I'll try to dig out at some point. Baron Von Joy (talk) 20:22, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks! It amazes me people need to reach when there are already enough uncanny coincidences. While I've heard it in several places elsewhere it'd be nice to pin down what event Antonio had an escape in four days before his death too... Baron Von Joy (talk) 19:35, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
Re-opening this discussion after eight years: "Both father and son had won 13 championship Grands Prix and drove car number 26. Both were killed four days after surviving serious accidents..." was added in two edits in September 2007, here and here. The identical wording is found in this BBC profile of July 2012. The same wording, without the "car number 26", is to be found in this profile on the F1 website. However, there seems to be no reliable source for those facts that does not look like it was taken from Wikipedia. I have done a lot of searching while editing the Antonio Ascari article, and I cannot find any mention of an incident – serious or trivial – four days before his death. Since the "13 Grands Prix" and the "car number 26" were removed eight years ago, I'm removing the "four days" now on the same grounds. 2001:BB6:4713:4858:6CA4:B4D2:9B7D:851F (talk) 17:23, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
Turns out the "13 championship Grands Prix" had been added back, citing the F1 site. It's definitely untrue; Antonio only won five Grands Prix, and only the last of those, in 1925, was in a championship season. I've removed it again. 2001:BB6:4713:4858:6CA4:B4D2:9B7D:851F (talk) 17:35, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
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