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Shooting duo

Further mention of Steph Curry and Klay Thompson shooting combination:

Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson form one of the best shooting combinations in the league, according to Tim Legler. http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=9257383

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Sidelight12 (talk • contribs) 08:40, 9 May 2013‎ (UTC)[reply]

Mention of mother

THOMPSON'S MOTHER? She gets no credit? A caucasian woman? It reads like his dad had the first male birthing.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.189.114.131 (talk) 03:01, 1 February 2016‎ (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 3 April 2020

{{edit semi-protected|Klay Thompson|answered=yes}

In his personal life section, add: "Thompson has been in a relationship with American actress Laura Harrier since 2018."

I recommend this change because there are many sources online about their relationship. They have both, especially Harrier, shared pictures on vacation and at events. Laura's Wikipedia page has this fact in her personal life section and I thought it would be reasonable and necessary for this fact to also be on Klay's page. Also, the relationship is serious as Laura actually moved from New York City to Los Angeles to live with him. They now share a house. All of this information can be found online and it's a fact that they're dating. Factfanatic1 (talk) 00:02, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done. Please provide a reliable source that supports this change. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 00:05, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Here are some sources: https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/11/22/klay-thompson-gets-cozy-with-actress-girlfriend-in-bay-area/ https://www.sfgate.com/warriors/article/klay-thompson-gq-travel-essentials-list-14910738.php https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/everything-you-should-know-about-nba-star-klay-thompsons-girlfriend-laura-harrier.html/ https://sports.yahoo.com/klay-thompson-wears-kimono-japanese-043439640.html https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2019/11/22/klay-thompson-gets-cozy-with-actress-girlfriend-in-bay-area/ https://www.santacruzsentinel.com/2019/11/22/klay-thompson-gets-cozy-with-actress-girlfriend-in-bay-area/?obref=obinsite https://www.instagram.com/p/B5IyPmCgd2w/ https://www.instagram.com/p/B7PLokThecx/ https://nypost.com/2019/01/08/klay-thompson-spotted-at-golden-globes-party-with-laura-harrier/ Factfanatic1 (talk) 00:36, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. Their is a concern with dating news conflicting with WP:NOTDIARY.—Bagumba (talk) 05:24, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How do I establish a consensus? Everyone that knows Klay and Laura knows they’re dating and I thought I provided reliable sources. Factfanatic1 (talk) 18:56, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lead bloat

Anandpadman91 (talk · contribs), reverted for similar reasons I reverted you at the Stephen Curry article. Flyer22 Frozen (talk) 04:42, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I restored the injury bit to the lead. We can also discuss whether it's best to have that in the lead. Flyer22 Frozen (talk) 04:49, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

African-American

The article says nowhere at all that Thompson is "black" or "African-American". Per WP:EGRS and WP:CATV, we need a reliable secondary source supporting PROSE in the article which supports the categories, or we cannot retain the categories as added by @Natemup:. Elizium23 (talk) 04:15, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

He's clearly described as the American son of a Afro-Bahamian American immigrant. natemup (talk) 05:29, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Catholic

Claim and source was added concerning Klay's Catholicism, which was thereafter reverted without explanation. I undid the reversion, have had multiple discussions on talk pages, and am now attempting avoiding the 3RR rule by posting this discussion. Another user has already nearly broken the rule today by reverting the edits again, claiming that because the source does not quote Klay, it can't be used.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/watchinggod/2018/05/what-the-golden-state-warriors-can-teach-us-about-being-christian-in-a-post-christian-america/ natemup (talk) 15:33, 2 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Natemup: First of all, you also almost broke the rule so stop singling me out. Furhermore, WP:CAT/R quite clearly says that Categories regarding religious beliefs or lack of such beliefs of a living person should not be used unless the subject has publicly self-identified with the belief in question (see WP:BLPCAT), either through direct speech or through actions like serving in an official clerical position for the religion. If a source supporting the highlighted part of WP:EGRS exists then show it here, because the source that you insist on using simply says Klay Thompson is Catholic., which does not justify anything. – Sabbatino (talk) 13:53, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
While I understand your point, that policy does not say the source itself has to be the person or the action. It would seem that the source can merely represent the fact that the belief or action is present. The claim is being made that Klay is Catholic, which (given that Patheos is a quality source) indicates that Klay has in fact claim publicly to be Catholic. To what other cause can we attribute a quality source making such a claim about a celebrity's religion? Is this not a source of religion info for notable people all over Wikipedia? natemup (talk) 14:04, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
As stated above, WP:CAT/R does say ... through direct speech or through actions like serving in an official clerical position for the religion.—Bagumba (talk) 14:19, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Natemup: The guideline quite clearly says that he must self-identify with being Catholic, which means that the source must support the claim. The source that you imply on using does not support it since there is no citation by Thompson or any other proof where he would say "I am Catholic". Searching on Google does not support it either, because almost all of the sources there simply say that he attended a Catholic school, which is not the same as being Catholic. You can attend a religious school, but not affiliate yourself with any religion. Are you here to discuss the matter or are you just WP:NOTGETTINGIT. – Sabbatino (talk) 14:22, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
This USA Today article says that Thompson was "raised in a Catholic household". I suspect that the author did confirm that much, at least, based on Thompson's quotes in the article about playing under Mark Jackson. That's still not the same as saying Thompson is a Catholic/Christian/etc. People can grow up with a religion and change over time. Zagalejo^^^ 15:08, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
To be clear, the source I used indeed says Thompson "is Catholic". It just doesn't quote Klay saying so. natemup (talk) 15:09, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. I support adding Klay Thompson is Catholic to he section since it has the relevant sourcing until proven otherwise. User:Sabbatino that's 2-1 majority.— Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎Belevalo (talk • contribs) 18:38, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The source that you used simply says Klay Thompson is Catholic. That does not look very credible since there is nothing in other sources that would support it. The source also says that Shaun Livingston is Lutheran. and that can easily be supported with this article – Livingston graduated from Concordia’s eighth-grade class in 2000 and still maintains membership at Trinity Lutheran Church... – Sabbatino (talk) 15:55, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I just don’t think the Patheos article is strong enough. A person’s religious beliefs are a personal matter, and not always that easy to pin down. The Patheos article simply looks like a synthesis of other sources, rather than a work of original reporting. There’s no indication the author spoke to Thompson.
I wouldn’t have a problem if the Wiki page said, “Thompson was raised as a Catholic,” and cited the USA Today article. I’m more confident that Sam Amick actually spoke with Thompson. And I think it’s a safer claim. (There is a tendency for Wiki editors to latch on to something someone said about their faith years ago and assume that that person holds the same beliefs. But people - especially people in their 20s - can change over time.) Zagalejo^^^ 18:47, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
True. People change their views as they age. But there isn't any indication Klay changed his views. Therefore it's valid until proven othervise. We can't make assumptions for him. Belevalo (talk) 19:08, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. User:Sabbatino has a tendency to be difficult and split hairs for the sake of arguing. I support adding Klay Thompson is Chatolic to he section since it has the relevant sourcing until proven otherwise. That's 2-1 majority. Belevalo (talk) 17:57, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
(Personal attack removed) – Sabbatino (talk) 18:05, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Patheos is a blog aggregator and not a WP:RS. Elizium23 (talk) 22:41, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Elizium23: Nowhere did I indicate that "Patheos" is a WP:RS. I wrote more than once that a better source is needed. – Sabbatino (talk) 07:33, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Natemup: Regarding your latest revert, the WP:ONUS is on you to get consensus to add material. That is not there yet. It can be added it if it ever forms.—Bagumba (talk) 13:50, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Zagalejo and Belevalo both offered support, either for my edit or for a similar one, and a second source was also mentioned for addition/clarification. The edit you made merely removed mine without considering what was actually discussed here. natemup (talk) 14:29, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The edit you made merely removed mine without considering what was actually discussed here: What did you incorporate in your revert? Seems like the same version you have been restoring.—Bagumba (talk) 14:44, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Natemup, you still don't have a valid source. Get a valid source Elizium23 (talk) 18:20, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I changed the edit a while back from claiming that Klay is Catholic to merely the claim that he has been identified as one. Based on the discussion here, it might be best to change it to the claim that he was raised Catholic (and to add the USA Today source), but the continued deletions seem to indicate an (unreasonable) unwillingness on y'all's part to include anything about his religious background at all. It is my understanding that our goal is to improve the article based on these discussions, rather than repeatedly delete content. natemup (talk) 18:32, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
We improve articles based on relevant things found in reliable sources. Elizium23 (talk) 19:58, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Natemup: My removal was independent of adding his being raised Catholic, a point which I am neutral on. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 00:48, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
To clarify, my preference is to say he was “raised a Catholic” and cite USA Today. I don’t support the statement that people are edit-warring over. Zagalejo^^^ 18:25, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Zagalejo, USA Today doesn't support that assertion. Elizium23 (talk) 00:41, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, looking again at USA Today, it seems to say that Mychal Thompson was raised in a Catholic household. Elizium23 (talk) 00:43, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I guess it depends on how you parse the sentence. I suppose the sentence isn’t actually that clear, though in context, I assumed it must be talking about Klay. *Mychal* Thompson’s upbringing would be an odd digression from the narrative about Mark Jackson’s Warriors. Klay is the one who was quoted in the article. That said, I don’t think the article needs to say anything about Klay’s religious background. I’d be content to leave it out entirely. I was just trying to offer a compromise. Zagalejo^^^ 01:45, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Natemup: You have reverted yet again. With no changes again. WP:PATHEOS says the source is generally unreliable. Why do you insist on re-inseterting an unreliable source. The other potential source says he was "raised in a Catholic household".—Bagumba (talk) 08:56, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Then just add it and change it to that. What I oppose is the deletion of any mention of the topic from the article. I'm not aware of religion references requiring such a high burden of proof in other articles. natemup (talk) 02:48, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It needs to be deleted as an unreliable claim on a WP:BLP. WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not the strongest of arguments. If you want something else added, that's your prerogative to see if there is consensus for it.—Bagumba (talk) 04:11, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
To my knowledge, there is no policy stating that additions from reliable sources need consensus before being added. The whole point of this discussion is to ascertain whether or not something should be said about the man's religion, and it is now apparent that USA Today says he was raised Catholic. Moreover, any one of us has reason to add that source and claim—unless I'm mistaken, and there is in fact a Wikipedia policy stating that the prerogative to implement discussion conclusions is for some editors involved and not others.
Also, I'm less versed in how to get more eyes on this discussion and receive more varied and impartial feedback, and I suspect you might be more knowledgeable on that front. Have at it. natemup (talk) 04:29, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The policy is WP:ONUS: While information must be verifiable to be included in an article, not all verifiable information needs to be included in an article. Consensus may determine that certain information does not improve an article, and that it should be omitted or presented instead in a different article. The onus to achieve consensus for inclusion is on those seeking to include disputed content.—Bagumba (talk) 07:16, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 3 June 2021

Klay no longer holds the NBA Playoff record for most threes in a game, it is now held by Damian Lillard.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31550352/portland-trail-blazers-damian-lillard-hits-playoff-record-12-3s-2-ot-loss 131.148.61.238 (talk) 14:26, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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