Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 August 18
August 18
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on August 18, 2021.
Afghan nationalism
- Afghan nationalism → Pashtun nationalism (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Delete, maybe speedy delete per criterion G1. Turn into a separate article if it meets GNG and someone with the needed background steps up. The only place "Afghan nationalism" appears on the article for "Pashtun nationalism" is a completely unsourced claim in the lead. It seems to be the equivalent of having American Nationalism redirect to White Nationalism, which would obviously be patently nonsensical. It also apparently produces nonsensical secondary results, such as "Afghan Nationalism" in the infobox of the Panjshir resistance redirecting to "Pashtun Nationalism", which AFAICT they don't even remotely have anything to do with. It would be better to have "Afghan Nationalism" WP:Redlink than redirect to something different. Intralexical (talk) 22:56, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
Macedonian (Greek Latin) language
- Macedonian (Greek Latin) language → Aromanian language (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Inaccurate redirect. Aromanian was mostly referred to as Macedonian in the first half of the past century and it is barely known as such anymore, and we already have Macedonian language, it is better to not refer Aromanian as Macedonian in Wikipedia to avoid confusion (also, Aromanians don't only live in the region of Macedonia, most of them don't even live there). Furthermore, this redirect implies that Aromanian is some kind of mix between Greek and Latin, which is false, this is a Romance language with Greek influence but also influence from several other languages. This redirect has no purpose, and I propose its deletion. Note that a similar redirect was deleted not too long ago, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 August 10#Greek Romance languages. Super Ψ Dro 20:41, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Agree with proposer. I don't think I've ever encountered the terms "Macedonian" and "Greek Latin" to mean Aromanian, even in the older literature. --Macrakis (talk) 21:23, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
Yang Qian (table tennis )
- Yang Qian (table tennis ) → Yang Qian (table tennis) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Implausible error in bracket. Sun8908 Talk 09:42, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - resulted from an erroneous page move of an older article, but was only at this title for about 15 hours. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 13:59, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and Ivanvector. It doesn't seem likely that people will search this. Regards, SONIC678 16:02, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nom typo in transition. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 17:25, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
Bbbp
I think this acronym redirect to a video game, created in 2009, has now been superseded or at the very least matched by Joe Biden's Build Back Better Plan. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 06:17, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
- Disambiguate under the all-caps BBBP. I also came up with Beti Bachao, Beti Padhao Yojana and a single by Jacki-O. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 07:08, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
- Retarget to Beti Bachao, Beti Padhao Yojana which appears to be the WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT in WP:RS. (The word "yojana" is usually excluded from the acronym.) A Google News search for 'BBBP "Build Back Better Plan"' gets zero hits. [1]. Per WP:ONEOTHER, to create a disambiguation page there'd need to be more articles that meet WP:DABABBREV than just an obscure WP:DABMENTIONed mixtape. To the limited extent that Biden's plan gets turned into an acronym anywhere (outside of the Wikipedian-invented usage at Template:Joe Biden series), it seems it's usually just called BBB rather than BBBP [2]. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 07:26, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
Illaoi
WP:GAMECRUFT that doesn't seem to be mentioned anywhere. Hog Farm Talk 02:18, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete We do not create redirects for every single character in a book, video game, film, etc. WIKINIGHTS talk 04:03, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nominator. Most of the 130+ redirects in Category:League of Legends character redirects to lists have the same problem. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 07:05, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Should at least be mentioned in plot if they are a notable character, but this is a game where they have hundreds if not thousands of named characters. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 17:27, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
Ms. Momomiya
- Ms. Momomiya → List of Tokyo Mew Mew characters#Ichigo Momomiya (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This was part of a nomination withdrawn because of a potentially fatal error on the railroad schedule. While yes, it could refer to Ichigo, it doesn't get very much use nowadays, and sees A LOT less usage than Ichigo Momomiya. I'm thinking we should delete unless someone can provide a justification. Regards, SONIC678 02:05, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
- Comment This really depends if she is regularly referred to as Ms. Momomiya, like they do for teachers such as Mr. Belding or Miss Bliss from Saved by the Bell. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 17:42, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
- A similar redirect was deleted in 2019 Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 August 22#Mrs. Momomiya. The nominator in that discussion mentioned that she was never referred to as Mrs. Momomiya and I would assume that also applies to Ms. Momomiya. Based on that I would recommend that we delete the redirect unless evidence is provided that the character is known by that name.--65.93.194.2 (talk) 02:52, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
Amplia
Not mentioned at the target, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 16:20, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
- Amplia is a subsidary of bmobile that offers cable and fiber internet and a couple of pages had a dead link to it so I created the redirect to serve that purpose. Joshua Shah (talk) 21:33, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
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Latin slang
- Latin slang → Latin obscenity (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Slang ≠ obscenities, I think that this redirect should be deleted. signed, Rosguill talk 12:17, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete the two word have different meanings.--65.93.194.2 (talk) 22:58, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
Delete per WP:R#D8if there is no justification on what the redirect is supposed to have. Jay (Talk) 14:23, 10 August 2021 (UTC)- Comment what do you think about soft redirection to wikt:Category:Latin slang? WIKINIGHTS talk 18:15, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
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HD 24496 Ab
Previously deleted by PROD due to lack of evidence of existence, but was then recreated as a redirect after it had been scrubbed from the host star's article. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 23:03, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
- Keep. Just put it in the category Disproven planets.🪐Kepler-1229b | talk | contribs🪐 20:09, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
- Comment This !vote has been indented. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:16, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete Confusing and misleading without discussion of the purported/disproven planet. Compare to Gliese 581f, which has substantial discussion on the page it redirects to. --BDD (talk) 15:44, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
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India's
I propose retargeting this to India (disambiguation) (Indias, plural?) or deletion. This seems like an unlikely typo but gets some page views. Seems potentially confusing. Rubbish computer Ping me or leave a message on my talk page 16:38, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. If we allow this, we would potentially be allowing any possessive → non-possessive redirect, which would be a pretty significant increase in the number of redirects. It's not a very plausible search term, and the high pageviews may well be due to random bots scraping things containing the word "India". -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 20:52, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete as unnecessary and ambiguous. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:30, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete: Not really a plausible term for those looking for India. -- Ab207 (talk) 16:39, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete: It's quite an obscure term and I am not sure if anyone would search it. No one would search India's as it is statistically improbable for people to search India with ' in it.FizzoXD (talk) 04:40, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
- Keep. This redirect actually exists as a neat piping shortcut. Instead of using [[India|India's]], one can instead directly use [[India's]] instead. This set up is currently being employed at Adline Castelino. -- Tavix (talk) 18:20, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
- Is that desirable? I've always written such things as
[[India]]'s
, and that's the syntax I see basically everywhere else too. Looking at MOS:PIPE there's nothing there specifically prohibiting[[India|India's]]
, but I'd probably remove it if I were copy-editing as potentially confusing: We don't have an article on "India's"; we have an article on "India". -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 18:40, 14 August 2021 (UTC)- Actually, come to think of it, the "President George Washington" example at WP:NOPIPE does touch on the same principle at least. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 18:42, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
- Is that desirable? I've always written such things as
- Keep per Tavix. In the abstract, I can appreciate the argument that we shouldn't encourage this, but that's a real uphill battle. People are going to create links like this. --BDD (talk) 15:41, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete per Tamzin. And if it's a redlink, then editors will notice when they mistakenly put
[[India's]]
and properly change it to[[India]]'s
. Mlb96 (talk) 04:26, 18 August 2021 (UTC) - Delete. Unless there's a notable brand that uses the possessive or plural, this isn't helpful. Checking other country pages, some have possessives and some don't. Also per MOS:OVERLINK there really isn't a need to link to a possessive for "names of subjects with which most readers will be at least somewhat familiar" / major examples of countries. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 18:06, 18 August 2021 (UTC)