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Dear all,
I would like to suggest updating the article as some information is outdated and some important information missing as described in detail below.
Please note that I have a financial conflict of interest as I am being paid by Sixt. Therefore, I will not make any edits myself but hope that uninvolved editors could review my suggestions and make changes if they find them appropriate.
Edit request
You can find my suggestion in my user space User:Conandcon/Sixt all backed by sources there. Here is also a diff so that you can see my suggested changes vs. the current article. I am also very happy to go through this subsection by subsection if this is easier!
Detailled description of proposed updates
Introduction:
Sixt is no longer only a car rental company as it offers additional services such as carsharing and ride-hailing. Therefore, I would like to suggest changing the description "a multinational car rental company" to "an international mobility service provider". This has also been described by Germany's leading business newspaper Handelsblatt - here. "Sixt ist kein Autovermieter mehr, sondern ein weltweit agierender Mobilitätskonzern, der im Plattformgeschäft mitspielt. Unter einem Dach werden Mietautos, Carsharing und Fahrdienste vermittelt." Translation: "Sixt is no longer a car rental company, but a globally active mobility group that plays a role in the platform business. Car rental, car sharing and driving services are all brokered under one roof."
Correct the number of locations from 5,000 to 2,100 and update the number of countries from "over 105" to "approximately 110".
Delete the last sentence "It is the largest car rental company in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Bolivia and Israel." as these are all franchise markets (except Germany) and formally "Sixt SE" is therefore not a car rental company in those countries.
Infobox:
Change title from "Sixt rent a car SE" to "Sixt SE" as this is the official name
Delete the field "trade name" as this is firstly wrong and secondly seems redundant taken in consideration the title and the "traded as" field
Key people: Change Gunter Thielen to Friedrich Joussen, who has been Chairman of the Supervisory Board since 2017
Services: Add "ride hailing" as an additional service to complete the list
Number of emplyoees: Update from 4,308 to latest 2018 figures (7,540)
Subsidiaries: Delete "myDriver" as a subsidiary as this is part of sixt ride since the organizational changes in February 2019
History:
First sentence: Sixt has been the first car rental company in Bavaria not in Germany according to its own company history documentation
Add a sentence at the end of the section describing the sale of DriveNow and add a short description of the changes in February 2019 adding car sharing to its services and combining its services rental, sharing, ride hailing into one app.
Management:
Last paragraph: Change "...appointed as additional Director of Sixt" to "...appointed as additional Board Members of Sixt" as "Directors" are considered something else in most German companies.
Business units:
Car rental: Change name "Car Rental" to "Mobility" as the business unit has been renamed following organizational changes. Accordingly change the first sentence to "The business unit Mobility..."
Car rental: Change the list of service areas into "rent, share, ride and Sixt Unlimited" following the mentioned organizational changes in February 2019 (from "rent a truck, rent a car, limousine service, Luxury Cars and Sixt Unlimited.")
Leasing: In the third sentence change the word "to" to "through" ("Furthermore, it offers lease financing and services through franchisees...") as this describes it more precisely from our point of view
Leasing: In the third sentence update/correct the number of countries from "more than 40" to "around 30"
Leasing: In the last sentence add the platform autohaus.24.de as it has been fully acquired in 2016 ("... via the online platforms www.autohaus24.de and www.sixt-neuwagen.de")
Other areas of business: Delete this section as Leasing has been described before, Sixt X is not a business unit but rather a division as described, DriveNow has been sold, Sixt ride now being part of the business area "Mobility" and Autohaus24 now being part of the leasing business area after the complete takeover in 2016.
In addition, I would like to discuss the second paragraph in today's section "Car Rental": It seems not to be written very neutral and it lacks an independent source. Of course, I am well aware of my COI. Therefore, I did not suggest any changes here in my draft but wanted to rather just point it out for uninvolved editors to decide what to do here.
All the suggestions I made are backed by (new) sources in my user space draft. I am looking forward to feedback. Please let me know if you have any questions or if I should do something different.
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Dear all,
I would like to suggest updating the article as some information is outdated and some important information missing as described in detail below.
Please note that I have a financial conflict of interest as I am being paid by Sixt. Therefore, I will not make any edits myself but hope that uninvolved editors could review my suggestions and make changes if they find them appropriate.
@Spintendo:, Thank you for your remarks above, which I hope I have implemented now in this request.
Extended content
Suggested changes to the Introduction section:
First sentence
1. Please remove the first sentence of the first paragraph of the introduction section:
"Sixt SE is a German multinational car rental company with about 5,000 locations in over 105 countries."
2. Please add the following as the first paragraph of the introduction section:
"Sixt SE is an international mobility service provider with about 2,100 locations in approximately 110 countries."
"The previously given numbers (locations and countries) were wrong or outdated. In addition, Sixt is no longer only a car rental company as it offers additional services such as carsharing and ride-hailing. Therefore, I would like to suggest changing the description "a multinational car rental company" to "an international mobility service provider". This has also been described by Germany's leading business newspaper Handelsblatt - please see reference above. The respective sentence is as follows: "Sixt ist kein Autovermieter mehr, sondern ein weltweit agierender Mobilitätskonzern, der im Plattformgeschäft mitspielt. Unter einem Dach werden Mietautos, Carsharing und Fahrdienste vermittelt." Translation: "Sixt is no longer a car rental company, but a globally active mobility group that plays a role in the platform business. Car rental, car sharing and driving services are all brokered under one roof."
Last sentence
1. Please remove the last sentence of the second paragraph of the introduction section:
"It is the largest car rental company in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Bolivia and Israel."
2. Reason for change being made:
Austria, Switzerland, Bolivia, Israel are all franchise markets and formally "Sixt SE" is therefore not a car rental company in those countries.
Suggested changes to the Infobox:
Title
1. Please remove the title of the infobox:
"Sixt rent a car SE"
2. Please add the following as the title of the infobox:
"Sixt SE"
3. Reason for change being made:
"Sixt SE" is the official name of the company.
Trade name
1. Please remove the field "trade name" from the infobox:
"Sixt rent a car SE"
2. Reason for change being made:
Delete the field "trade name" as this is firstly wrong and secondly seems redundant taken the title in consideration.
Key people
1. Please remove Gunter Thielen from the list of key people of the company.
2. Please add the Friedrich Joussen to the list of key people of the company.
3. Reason for change being made:
Add "ride hailing" as an additional service to complete the list in line with the description in the introduction section.
Number of emplyoees
1. Please remove the old number of employees in the infobox.
"Number of employees: 4,308 (2014)"
2. Please add the most up-to-date number of employees to the infobox.
Shortly describe the sale of DriveNow to complement the history of the company.
New paragraph at the end 2
1. Please add the following sentence at the end of the history section:
"In February 2019, Sixt started a new car sharing service named Sixt share and combined its services car rental, car sharing and ride hailing into one app."
Add a short description of the changes in February 2019 adding car sharing to its services and combining its services rental, sharing, ride hailing into one app.
Suggested changes to the Management section:
Last paragraph
1. Please remove the second sentence of the last paragraph of the management section.
"At the same time, Erich and Regine Sixt's two sons, Alexander Sixt and Konstantin Sixt, were appointed as additional Directors of Sixt."
2. Please add the following as the second sentence of the last paragraph of the management section.
"At the same time, Erich and Regine Sixt's two sons, Alexander Sixt and Konstantin Sixt, were appointed as additional Board Members of Sixt."
Change name "Car Rental" to "Mobility" as the business unit has been renamed following organizational changes.
Car Rental 2 - first sentence
1. Please remove the first sentence of the sub-section car rental.
"The business unit Vehicle Rental is represented in Germany, France, Spain, Great Britain, Italy, Netherlands, Austria, Switzerland, Belgium, Luxembourg, Monaco and the United States with Sixt’s own subsidiaries."
2. Please add the following as the first sentence of the sub-section car rental.
The business unit Mobility is represented in Germany, France, Spain, Great Britain, Italy, Netherlands, Austria, Switzerland, Belgium, Luxembourg, Monaco and the United States with Sixt’s own subsidiaries.
Change the word "to" to "through" as this describes it more precisely from our point of view. In addition, please update the number of countries.
Leasing 2 - last sentence
1. Please remove the last sentence of the sub-section leasing.
"The business areas are: fleet leasing for corporate customers, fleet management through its subsidiary Sixt Mobility Consulting GmbH and leasing for private and commercial customers via the online platform www.sixt-neuwagen.de."
2. Please add the following as the last sentence of the sub-section leasing.
"The business areas are: fleet leasing for corporate customers, fleet management through its subsidiary Sixt Mobility Consulting GmbH and leasing for private and commercial customers via the online platforms www.autohaus24.de and www.sixt-neuwagen.de."
Add the platform autohaus.24.de as it has been fully acquired in 2016.
Other areas of business
1. Please remove the whole sub-section "Other areas of business".
Other areas of business
Sixt Leasing SE: Internet platform for lease and financing new cars; also managing and consulting larger fleets of international companies.
Sixt X: new mobility division focused on the digital mobility sector. The objective of Sixt X is to create an integrated mobility platform that offers all of Sixt's services from one single source.
DriveNow: Car sharing in Berlin, Munich, Hamburg, Düsseldorf and Cologne, as well as in Vienna and London, operated jointly with BMW since 2011. Sold its 50% share to BMW in 2018
Autohaus24.de: Internet platform selling new cars; operated jointly with Axel Springer Auto Verlag GmbH.
2. Reason for change being made:
In case above mentioned suggestion in the section business units are being implemented: Delete this section as Leasing has been described before, Sixt X is not a business unit but rather a division as described, DriveNow has been sold, Sixt ride now being part of the business area "Mobility" and Autohaus24 now being part of the leasing business area after the complete takeover in 2016.
In addition, I would like to discuss the second paragraph in today's section "Car Rental": It seems not to be written very neutral and it lacks an independent source. Of course, I am well aware of my COI. Therefore, I did not suggest any changes here in my draft but wanted to rather just point it out for uninvolved editors to decide what to do here.
All the suggestions I made can also be reviewed in my user space User:Conandcon/Sixt. Here is also a diff so that you can see my suggested changes vs. the current article.
Below you will see where proposals from your request have been quoted with reviewer decisions and feedback inserted underneath, either accepting, declining or otherwise commenting upon your proposal(s). Please read the enclosed notes within the proposal review section below for information on each request. Spintendo23:55, 26 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Proposal review 26-JAN-2020
Sixt SE is an international mobility service provider with about 2,100 locations in approximately 110 countries Declined.[note 1]
Please remove "It is the largest car rental company in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Bolivia and Israel" Approved.Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).
Please remove the field "trade name" from the infobox: "Sixt rent a car SE" Clarification needed.[note 2]
Please remove Gunter Thielen from the list of key people of the company. Please add the Friedrich Joussen to the list of key people of the company. Approved.Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).
Please add "ride hailing" to the list of services Approved.Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).
Number of employees 7540 (2018) In 1912, Martin Sixt founded the company with a fleet of three cars, creating the first car rental company in Bavaria Approved.Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).
At the beginning of 2018, Sixt sold its stake in car sharing service DriveNow for 209 million euros to its joint venture partner BMW. At the same time, Erich and Regine Sixt's two sons, Alexander Sixt and Konstantin Sixt, were appointed as additional Board Members of Sixt. Declined.[note 3]
The business unit Mobility is represented in Germany, France, Spain, Great Britain, Italy, Netherlands, Austria, Switzerland, Belgium, Luxembourg, Monaco and the United States with Sixt’s own subsidiaries. Declined.[note 4]
The services are divided into the following areas: rent, share, ride and Sixt Unlimited.
Declined.[note 5]
Furthermore, it offers lease financing and services through franchisees and partners in more than 30 countries Declined.[note 6]
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^The request does not state what it is about the description of the company as being one of car rentals, which is deficient in the inclusion of other, more modern forms of car rental, such as ride sharing.
^Minor developments at the company are not germane for the article. SeeWP:NOTNEWS.
^This information was removed from the article because it is not clear what is meant by the word represents.
^This portion of the text was removed, as a directory of the businesses sections is not warranted. The business areas are: fleet leasing for corporate customers, fleet management through its subsidiary Sixt Mobility Consulting GmbH and leasing for private and commercial customers via the online platforms www.autohaus24.de and www.sixt-neuwagen.de."SeeWP:NOTADIRECTORY.
^This text was removed, as the article ought not to act as a brochure for the company's services. SeeWP:NOTBROCHURE.
@Spintendo: This is greatly appreciated. Thank you very much for your help and for taking your time looking into this. Let me go through your comments with my client and get back to you. Let me know if any questions arise in the meantime. Thanks again and best regards, Conandcon (talk) 09:57, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Thanks again for looking into my request above. I would like to suggest a few additional things also clarifying parts of my request above. All, please note that I have a financial conflict of interest. Therefore, I will not make any changes myself but rather suggest things here.
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Suggested changes to the Introduction section:
First sentence
1. Please remove the first sentence of the first paragraph of the introduction section:
"Sixt SE is a German multinational car rental company with about 5,000 locations in over 105 countries."
2. Please add the following as the first paragraph of the introduction section:
"Sixt SE is a German multinational car rental company with about 2,100 locations in approximately 110 countries."
"Sixt SE, with its headquarters in Pullach/Germany is a listed European Stock Corporation (Societas Europaea) and is the parent and holding company for the Sixt Group."
4. Reason for change being made:
"Sixt rent a car SE" is not the name of the company. "Sixt SE" is the official name. Therefore, the title of the info box would need to be corrected.
Trade name
1. Please remove the following:
"Sixt rent a car"
2. Please add the following as the title of the infobox:
"Sixt SE St"
3. Using as the reference:
Please see the website of the Frankfurt Stock Exchange:
"Sixt SE St". boerse-frankfurt.de. Retrieved 2020-02-17.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
4. Reason for change being made:
"Sixt rent a car" is not the official trade name. "Sixt SE" is the offical trade name, whereas "Sixt SE St" are the common shares and "Sixt SE Vz" are the preferred shares.
Subsidiaries
1. Please remove the field "subsidiaries" from the infobox.
"Subsidiaries: myDriver"
2. Reference:
Please see the annual report on page 37 (pdf page 39):
DriveNow was one of two big German car sharing providers. Its sale to BMW for 209m euros made the joint venture of BMW and Daimler (Mercedes) possible, which changed the German car sharing market fundamentally. As a major milestone within the history of the company, this should be added.
Below you will see where proposals from your request have been quoted with reviewer decisions and feedback inserted underneath, either accepting, declining or otherwise commenting upon your proposal(s). Please read the enclosed notes within the proposal review section below for information on each request. Spintendo19:12, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Proposal review 17-FEB-2020
Sixt SE is a German multinational car rental company with about 2,100 locations Approved.Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).
in approximately 110 countries. Already done.[note 1]
The majority of the company is owned by the Sixt family, who manage the company. Partly-approved.[note 2]
It is the largest car rental company in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Bolivia and Israel Approved.[note 3]
Please add the following as the title of the infobox: "Sixt SE" Approved.Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).
Please remove the field "subsidiaries" from the infobox. Approved.Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).
At the beginning of 2018, Sixt sold its stake in car sharing service DriveNow for 209 million euros to its joint venture partner BMW. Declined.[note 4]
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^The asked-for changes in this section of the edit request are already in the article. The text states that they are available in "over 105 countries". As being available in 110 countries meets the definition of "over" 105, this statement is accurate.
^As it was already unclear what was meant by the metric "largest", this statement has been omitted.
^It is not clear what is meant by the term stake. Also, as this is simply the transfer of property from one company to its business partner, this is not news. SeeWP:NOTNEWS.
I would like to suggest to add some information to the history section. It currently ends in 2015, missing major company milestones since then. Where only major German newspapers reported I added articles from an english-language special interest magazine. I am very happy to help translating if necessary though.
Please note that I have a financial conflict of interest as I am being paid by Sixt. Therefore, I will not make any edits myself but hope that uninvolved editors could review my suggestions and make changes if they find them appropriate.
Extended content
Suggested changes to the History section:
Penultimate paragraph
1. Please add the following sentence at the end of the penultimate paragraph of history section:
"In 2011, the company opened its first branch in the USA in Florida."
As Sixt is a listed company, this is a crucial information for readers. Also, when looking at the over 100-year company history this transaction stands out. It was covered broadly in German press – please see Google results.
End of history section2
1. Please add the following sentence at the end of the history section:
"In February 2019, Sixt started an own mobility platform and a new car sharing service named Sixt share. The services car rental, car sharing, ride hailing and car subscriptions are all combined into one app."
This is a major milestone in the company’s history as Sixt is transitioning to a mobility service provider. Investors deemed this move significant with the share price rising 7 percent that day (see Manager Magazin article above).
End of history section3
1. Please add the following sentence at the end of the history section:
"In 2020, Sixt sold all its shares in Sixt Leasing SE in order to focus its business on its mobility services."
This is another big milestone in the company's history and in transitioning into a mobility service provider.
End of history section4
1. Please add the following sentence at the end of the history section:
"In June 2020, Sixt acquired 10 concessions at U.S. airports from Advantage Rent a Car. The acquisition increased the number of Sixt stations in the United States to more than 85."
Thank you for trying to avoid a conflict. I've checked the big diff [1] you suggested previously and I'm fine with it. I'm also fine with the most recent update suggestions. These all are facts worth mentioning in the article. Nikolay Komarov (talk) 16:12, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Dear all,
I would like to suggest to update some information.
Please note that I have a financial conflict of interest as I am being paid by Sixt. Therefore, I will not make any edits myself but hope that uninvolved editors could review my suggestions and make changes if they find them appropriate.
Extended content
Infobox Industry
1. Please remove the following as industry from the infobox:
"Car rental"
2. Please add the following as industry to the infobox:
"Mobility service provider"
3. Reason for change being made:
As already listed under services in the infobox today, Sixt offers much more then just car rental. I would therefore like to suggest to change the industry to mobility service provider as this seems more accurate.
Infobox Key people
1. Please remove the following as key people from the infobox:
"Erich Sixt (CEO and Chairman of the Executive Board), Friedrich Joussen (Chairman of the Supervisory Board)"
2. Please add the following as key people to the infobox:
I don't like anything that transforms the page into a "single-page landing site" so I wouldn't recommend adding "www.autohaus24.de" in the end. Otherwise it's just technical corrections supported by links. These links though... should be best from non-affiliated 3rd-party sources, not from the company's sites. Nikolay Komarov (talk) 09:14, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your reply Nikolay Komarov. I am not sure what you are referring to regarding the "single-page landing site" and autohaus24 as I am not suggesting to add anything in regard to autohaus24. Regarding the sources I proposed only 2 are primary sources that support hard facts (employee numbers and locations). In this regard these seem the most accurate sources as this information will always come from the company directly - and it later might be picked up by media. What do you think? Best, Conandcon (talk) 09:31, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Nikolay Komarov: Just wanted to make sure that you saw my reply above. Let me know what I can do to address your concerns and/or whether you are okay with implementing the suggested updates. Looking forward to hearing from you. Best Conandcon (talk) 14:31, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much, @Retswerb: Would you be willing to also look at my other suggestions? What do you think? Looking forward to hearing from you. Greetings from Germany, Conandcon (talk) 15:39, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Clarification requested
