Talk:League of Legends

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"Player culture" section

This section isn't properly titled. This isn't about the player culture but instead about how the game developers and community deal with toxicity. I'm not sure what we could rename it to, but does anyone else have an idea? Anarchyte (talk • work) 06:32, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Player behavior, perhaps? OhKayeSierra (talk) 09:36, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

That's a lot better. If there are no objections I'll make the change later today. Anarchyte (talk • work) 12:54, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

 Done by ImaginesTigers. Anarchyte (talk • work) 17:24, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Addition to gameplay elements in relation to in-game negative player behaviour

Hi, I want to emphasise some of the gameplay elements that are present in League of Legends that relate to its toxicity. The article says "conventions have arisen" in which players choose general roles (top/mid/bottom/jungle/support). As a longtime player, this is not a convention. If a player chooses an improper character for their role or refuses to play their role (usually to steal another role), this can be considered trolling and a reason to report the player (unless the player is new and does not know the roles). In addition, MOBAs like League of Legends are known as being so heavily team-based that any given team can only be considered to be as strong as their weakest player. Therefore, when one player is of lesser skill or is doing poorly, it can lead to a butterfly effect that deeply impacts the performance of players on the same team. Often, a player of higher skill (often the jungle role, as the role requires the player travel around the map consistently) will have to babysit a weaker skilled player (usually top, bottom, or mid) to prevent them from dying repeatedly (referred to as feeding), but this prevents the higher skilled player from properly performing their role duties, which in turn prevents them from capitalising on opportunities with the other three players.

As all kills and deaths are announced to all players, no player can hide their poor performance, which leads to toxic criticism of players who die too often and do not get enough kills. Players will often make quick decisive remarks on other players' skills in relation to their own or the enemy team's, such as "[role] diff" in which that [role] is considered to be the sole reason why their team lost, as their enemy equivalent becomes far too powerful for any of the other members of the team to defeat.

The surrender mechanic also allows players to vote against surrendering, which itself can be seen as an action of trolling: seasoned players generally know when a comeback victory is impossible, and to refuse a surrender is seen as dragging out unnecessary time.

The skill floor and skill ceiling should also be mentioned. In the Reception section, a previous review is mentioned in which LoL inherited DotA's players, who were notably newcomer-unfriendly. This is certainly true: as noted in the Multiplayer online battle arena page, it is said that: "Players with better mechanical skills and quick reaction time typically excel in the game. The genre has a strong focus on micromanagement, involving mechanic abilities such as positioning, skill evasion, use of combo attacks, kiting, prediction and target selection.[22] Direction-targeted abilities, or "skillshots", require precise aim and good timing in order to hit an enemy.[32]" Micromanagement is the key word here: new players do not understand all of these intricacies, and it can take upwards of several months to a year to become proficient at any given MOBA. Players of lesser skill are often criticised and attacked by being told to "uninstall" or "delete the game" after doing poorly, which obviously reduces the likelihood that they will remain long-time players.

The mechanic behind players disconnecting is also very important: the absence of any given role for an extended period of time inevitably leads to the enemy equivalent becoming stronger, as disconnected players are automatically teleported to their base, where they gain experience and gold far slower than an active player. Players may disconnect for a variety of reasons, the two that relate to toxicity are the players who disconnect when their teammates are seen as being of far lower skill, and the players who disconnect when they do poorly around the beginning to middle of a match. Either reason leaves the remaining teammates at a distinct disadvantage, and they often surrender shortly after. The frustration players feel after such an unfair loss then translates into the next game, and they often remain overly critical of their teammates' small errors in gameplay, believing that their teammates will inevitably be of poor quality and lead to further disconnects or losses in general.

I don't have any written sources for this material, although I would certainly hope that the editors that see this are fellow players and understand what I mean through their own experiences. I simply find it irresponsible that LoL, reaching audiences larger than the NBA, doesn't explain these mechanics, which IMO are damaging criticisms of LoL as traumatic brain injuries are criticisms of American football.

162.83.143.126 (talk) 18:00, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 May 2021

In the Wikidata, 'series' league of legends is apart of the league of legends series, maybe should be added? thankyou EzeePedia (talk) 23:43, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: At this time, there is no article on English Wikipedia for the League of Legends series/franchise. That may change in the not so distant future, but for right now there is nothing we can link to. -- ferret (talk) 23:54, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Ruined King: A League of Legends Story

Hi there, folks! I've started Draft:Ruined King: A League of Legends Story. I don't think it should go live right now, but once the game has an actual release date, I think that'll be a good time to push it to mainspace (unless the release date is, like, December 28). If you're itching to feel in some early details, please do feel free. — ImaginesTigers (talk∙contribs) 21:23, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

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New Topic Idea

Something that could make an interesting point of talk is the influence of the game in the esports industry and international competitions. It might be a hard things to quantify, but it definitely has had a large impact in expanding esports, and bringing esports into a more publicly recognizable state.

JdanR (talk) 18:05, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

League of Legends in esports exists, which would be the suitable location for additional info. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:14, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 October 2021

As of 23 September 2021 there are currently 157 released champions, not the 155 that were on april. Thanks in advance Izan701 (talk) 07:45, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:05, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

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User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 19:02, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

None of the champions is better than the rest

Hi everyone. I suggest adding the information that none of the champions is better than the rest. That all of them have their own advantages and disadvantages. Could someone please do this? Thanks!