Talk:Doraemon

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Can i please edit the page because i can see somethings wrong here TOHO Animations (talk) 10:29, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Page protection would be totally pointless if we allowed anyone to edit the page who said they wanted to. You need to say exactly what change you think should be made and explain why, so that a confirmed editor can decide whether to make the change you suggest or not. JBW (talk) 10:40, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Doraemon/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Link20XX (talk · contribs) 14:45, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hey. You said that you're active, so I will review this article. This is a big article though, so it may take me awhile. Link20XX (talk) 14:46, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your good article submission. Unfortunately, this article in its current form does not meet the good article criteria. Here is why:

Unsourced/poorly sourced statements:

In Creation and Conception, the third paragraph is not cited by the source.
In the same section, My Anime List is not a reliable source
In Media, this line is not cited: "Since the debut of Doraemon in 1969, the stories have been selectively collected into forty-five tankōbon volumes that were published under Shogakukan's Tentōmushi Comics imprint from 1974 to 1996."
Also in media, this line about the English release is not cited: "A total of 200 volumes have been released."
Also in Media, The series ended with 1,787 episodes on March 25, 2005
Also in media, there is a Citation needed tag
In Reception, "and the films grossed over $1.8 billion at the worldwide box office, making Doraemon the highest-grossing anime film franchise.", you can't use other wiki articles as a source
In Reception, "It was also available in neighbouring Pakistan, where the Hindi-dubbed version was aired until 2016 (Hindi and Urdu are mutually intelligible)."
In Reception, "As of 2016, Doraemon has grossed at least $5.608 billion in licensed merchandise sales worldwide."

Other reasons:

Sources in the lead and plot sections are not needed
The entire article in general is written pretty poorly and badly needs a copyedit or even to be completely rewritten in some cases, like the lead

Overall, this article is at best a C-class due to all the unsourced statements and most of the sections just being poorly written. Once these issues have been properly addressed, you can renominate the article, but the result of this review is not promoted. Please also take time to read the criteria on Wikipedia:Good article criteria. I hope that this doesn't discourage you, because you have made some improvements to the article, just not enough. Please take the criticism to heart and use it to improve the article to GA status. Link20XX (talk) 15:53, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Link20XX: Thanks a lot for bringing the issues forward. Hope to renominate it in the coming months.--Atlantis77177 (talk) 06:03, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Link20XX (talk · contribs) 15:23, 30 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Per your request at my talk page, I will review this article. Just keep in mind that it may take several days since this is a long article. Anyway, I have one small question before I start, are you associated with Atlantis77177 (the previous GA nominator) in any way? Link20XX (talk) 15:23, 30 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Link20XX: I'm not associated with that user at all; to make it clear, Atlantis77177 was inactive since the beginning of May, a few weeks before my major rewrite and expansion. (I joined in 2016 and mainly active in Vietnamese Wikipedia.) Thuyhung2112 (talk) 15:03, 31 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Preliminary comments

@Thuyhung2112: While I review it, here are some preliminary comments I have:

Checked via WP:EARWIG for copyvio, and the highest is about 38%, which is acceptable.

Regarding Images:

The cover of Doraemon has two information boxes, and the fair use rationale is for a comic strip, not a book cover. I would recommend removing one of the two information boxes and changing the rationale to be the rationale used for a book cover. The image File:Heart of Thomas Moto Hagio.jpg is a good example on how to do this.

Done --Thuyhung2112 (talk) 15:03, 31 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The image of the comic strip Doraemon first appears in should have an information box, I would recommend making it look something like File:Alex cartoon (Alex calls the shots, 1993).resize.png this one. Link20XX (talk) 17:31, 30 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done --Thuyhung2112 (talk) 15:03, 31 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Full Review

@Thuyhung2112: At long last, I have completed my full review. On this read-over, the improvements you made are clear. It reads much better, and is much better sourced than when I last looked at it back in March. Just a few things and I will promote it.

Checklist

Is it well written?
A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:

B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:
Is it verifiable with no original research?
A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:

B. All in-line citations are from reliable sources, including those for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons—science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines:

C. It contains no original research:

D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:
Is it broad in its coverage?
A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:

B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):
Is it neutral?
It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
Is it stable?
It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?
A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:

B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
Overall:
Pass or Fail:

Comments

Creation:

The IGN source doesn't actually give their real names of the authors.

I've found that only Fujiko F. Fujio is credited in the cover, and Schilling (2004, p. 39) wrote: "Doraemon's creator was Hiroshi Fujimoto, a member of the most prolific and successful creative duo in manga history ...", so I changed to "Doraemon is written and illustrated by Fujiko F. Fujio, whose real name is Hiroshi Fujimoto." --Thuyhung2112 (talk) 09:58, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kejut doesn't appear to be a reliable source. Is there a reason you believe it is?

Removed --Thuyhung2112 (talk) 09:58, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Media:

"In addition, as of 2016, four volumes of the manga has been published in English in print by Shogakukan Asia, using the same translation as the manga available on Amazon Kindle. Unlike the Amazon Kindle releases, these volumes are in black and white instead of color" is not stated in source 47.

I trimmed to just "In addition, as of 2016, four volumes of the manga have been published in English in print by Shogakukan Asia." Is it acceptable? Thuyhung2112 (talk) 10:44, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think People's Daily is a reliable source. According to Wikipedia:Mirrors and forks/PQR, they have copied text from Wikipedia without providing the proper attribution.

Removed --Thuyhung2112 (talk) 10:44, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Confirmed cast member of the new American adaptation include veteran anime voice actress Mona Marshall of South Park fame in the title role of Doraemon and Johnny Yong Bosch of Power Rangers and Bleach fame as Noby. The English dub is produced by Bang Zoom! Entertainment" is not stated in source 72.

Removed --Thuyhung2112 (talk) 10:44, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am not sure this is a reliable source. It appears like anyone can edit it.

After some searching of Dora-chan (1980) by Craul Denshi, all I could find were blogs, fan-sites, ... or something like these, so I removed it. I assume that very little was known about this game. Thuyhung2112 (talk) 13:21, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Doraemon can also be seen in Namco's Taiko no Tatsujin rhythm game series like Taiko no Tatsujin (11 – 14 only), Metcha! Taiko no Tatsujin DS: Nanatsu no Shima no Daibouken, Taiko no Tatsujin Wii, Taiko no Tatsujin Plus, and Taiko no Tatsujin DS: Dororon! Yokai Daikessen!!" is not stated in source 125.

Trimmed to "Doraemon can also be seen in Namco's Taiko no Tatsujin rhythm game series, such as in Taiko no Tatsujin: Sesson de Dodon ga Don! (2017)." with a Gematsu source. Thuyhung2112 (talk) 13:21, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Reception:

"and $1.8 billion at the box office" is not cited. Per WP:USERG, a wikilink is not a reliable source.

Removed and reworded --Thuyhung2112 (talk) 14:02, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I checked source 187, and "Legal notices were served against several Indian companies, targeting Doraemon and Crayon Shin-chan, as having an adverse effect on children" doesn't appear to be stated in it. I can't find anything in it about legal situations against companies, just them asking for a ban on the series.

Replaced by an Anime News Network source. Thuyhung2112 (talk) 14:02, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Cultural impact and legacy:

Since you are using two images in a row, they should be placed in Template:Multiple image.

Done --Thuyhung2112 (talk) 14:12, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That is all. Address them and I will pass it. Link20XX (talk) 17:52, 2 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Thuyhung2112: The changes are sufficient. I am closing this review as Pass. Congratulations! If you want to nominate a fact from this article to appear on the main page, you can find out how to do so at WP:DYK. Link20XX (talk) 15:28, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Demographic change

So there was a change in the demographic field in the infobox, in which "Children" was replaced with "Shōnen". Is there any proof of this? LucianoTheWindowsFan (talk) 21:00, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@LucianoTheWindowsFan: The change was made with this edit on 20 November 2021 by an IP editor who made four edits that day. There was no explanation for the change. The article generally describes the character as relating to children, but the feature films as shōnen. I'd be comfortable with changing it back to "Children". SchreiberBike | ⌨ 21:47, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I also support changing it back. Demographics for manga are determined by the magazine the series was published in. The page for CoroCoro Comic states "Its main target is elementary school-aged boys, younger than the readers of shōnen manga". Link20XX (talk) 22:26, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]