Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 February 9
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on February 9, 2022.
Abuelo
Redirect from Spanish, not all grandparents are Spanish, and this is not the Spanish Wikipedia. Faster than Thunder (talk) 23:57, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:RLOTE. "Grandparent" is a generic concept with no particular affinity for the Spanish language. 192.76.8.77 (talk) 00:14, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
Abuela
This is a redirect from Spanish, not all grandparents are Spanish, and this is not the Spanish Wikipedia. Faster than Thunder (talk) 23:55, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:RLOTE. "Grandparent" is a generic concept with no particular affinity for the Spanish language. 192.76.8.77 (talk) 00:14, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
Your contract has expired
- Your contract has expired → A Hat in Time (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Song is not mentioned at the target; not helpful for the reader. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 21:59, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete unless someone wishes to make a song/soundtrack list. wizzito | say hello! 22:03, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
Assaded
Neologism/meme not explained at the target. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 21:56, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. Non-notable meme which has no mention anywhere in the encyclopaedia. 192.76.8.77 (talk) 00:16, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
Aussie V8s
- Aussie V8s → Supercars Championship (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Quite ambiguous. This term can be used to refer to any Australian-built V8 powered car eg [1], not particularly (or even at all) to the V8 Supercars (as it used to be known). I don't think a retarget to any particular car, or to Automotive industry in Australia would be suitable either so I think best to delete. A7V2 (talk) 07:46, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
- No contest from me. I just always thought "Aussie V8s" meant V8 Supercars (Supercars Championship#V8 Supercars). Mac Dreamstate (talk) 21:41, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
- Retarget to V8 engine#Australia. Jay (talk) 07:39, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 19:59, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Retarget to V8 engine#Australia per Jay wizzito | say hello! 22:04, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
Wp1
- Wp1 → Almost surely (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- W.P.1. → Almost surely (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned at the target, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 19:20, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Keep – it stands for "with probability 1". Alternatively we could retarget to Notation in probability and statistics#Abbreviations, which mentions this abbreviation. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 19:29, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Retarget to Notation in probability and statistics#Abbreviations per Mx. Granger wizzito | say hello! 22:05, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
Lucchey Laffange
- Lucchey Laffange → List of Bollywood films of 2016 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Mmirsa → List of Bollywood films of 2016 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned at the target, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 18:03, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete both. The first film seems to have no mention anywhere, the second is listed in the filmography sections of three articles, none of which would form a suitable target in my opinion. 192.76.8.77 (talk) 00:19, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
British invasion
- British invasion → British Invasion (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Ambiguous when uncapitalised, can just as commonly refer to British military invasions. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 18:00, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- As someone who has only a passing familiarity with British military history and 20th century music, it's not obvious to me that capitalization is more appropriate for one of those than the other. I suspect many of our readers will feel the same way, so I think British Invasion and British invasion should point to the same place. Therefore keep, but feel free to start a move request at Talk:British Invasion if you think it's not the primary topic for this phrase. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 19:32, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
Myall Creek
- Myall Creek → Myall Creek massacre (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Suggest to disambiguate or move Myall Creek, New South Wales here or redirect to Myall Creek, New South Wales. The 2014 RFD seemed correct to target the massacre but since then an article about the town has been created. The town article can probbaly serve as a WP:DABCONCEPT in respect to the massacre as its linked prominently. Given Dalby, Queensland and the streams in Queensland it may be better to disambiguate, see ceb:Myall Creek if the streams are notable. There are links at Quinalow, Barnard River and Queensland Women's Historical Association for the stream(s). Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:47, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Disambiguate per nom wizzito | say hello! 22:06, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
Yugoslavia-redirects
- Former Yugoslav republics → Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Ex-Yugoslavia → Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia#Legacy (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Former Yugoslavia → Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia#Legacy (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Yugosphere → Yugoslavia#Yugosphere (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
All this redirects target different articles, I think that they should lead into one page. Heanor (talk) 17:06, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- SFRY is the common meaning, it's just a question of where to describe Yugosphere. Honestly I'm not sure if it should even exist, because all we really have about it is that it's a novelty neologism, that part is barely referenced (tagged as problematic since 2012!), and everything else is OR editorializing and conflation of Yugonostalgia and a description of Serbo-Croatian (which leaves unanswered the question of how Slovenia and Macedonia fit in going forward). All the incoming links to it seem to be pipe links or duplication or in one case an error (that I just removed). --Joy [shallot] (talk) 18:28, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
Marquesote
- Marquesote → Sponge cake (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned at the target, esWiki has separate articles for Marquesote and Sponge cake. Deletion to encourage article creation seems the way to go here. signed, Rosguill talk 16:33, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
Ugandan Canadians
- Ugandan Canadians → Black Canadians (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Tanzanian Canadians → Black Canadians (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Burundian Canadians → Black Canadians (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Kenyan Canadians → Black Canadians (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Rwandan Canadians → Black Canadians (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
No mention of Uganda, Tanzania, Burundi, Kenya or Rwanda at the target, delete unless duly sourced content can be added. signed, Rosguill talk 16:19, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Veverve (talk) 18:05, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
Civil court
Civil courts do much more than hear lawsuits. I recall that when I changed my name there were something like 30 options on the form, and only 2 or 3 involved lawsuits. An article that explains that fairly well, if too briefly, is Civil law (common law). I think it would be better to retarget there. The other concern with this redirect is that it could be ambiguous with a court operating under Civil law (legal system), but the proposed target links to the DAB Civil law, so I think that handles that. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 11:16, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
- I agree the current target isn't great, but I'm wondering whether a dab page might be better. The top hits on google for me relate to County Court (England and Wales) for example, but this will likely be different for those googling from outside that jurisdiction. Thryduulf (talk) 20:01, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:REDYES. Veverve (talk) 21:57, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Note that both Civil law (common law) and Civil law (legal system) hatnote the DAB Civil law.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 15:47, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia:DOGBITESMAN
- Wikipedia:DOGBITESMAN → Wikipedia:Notability (events)#Routine coverage (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
I don't think someone would type this in to get to the redirect target. – AssumeGoodWraith (talk | contribs) 13:35, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Comment isn't the phrase Man bites dog? If it's a common term in journalism I could see it being used as a redirect by people familiar with that field, but surely it would be WP:MANBITESDOG unless if I've misunderstood some in-joke. --Bonoahx (talk) 16:41, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- ...Which it appears to also be. In that case maybe Delete this redirect and Keep WP:MANBITESDOG. --Bonoahx (talk) 16:42, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- I’m pretty sure the joke is routine coverage is the opposite of the unusual events covered in Man bites dog articles therefore it would be like the more common occurrence of dogs biting people.--65.93.195.118 (talk) 01:28, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
Australian Domestic Market
- Australian Domestic Market → Automotive industry in Australia (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
I see three main issues with this redirect. Firstly, the term (in reference to cars) appears to be totally made up, trying to be some equivalent to Japanese domestic market. I can find no useage in reliable sources but this [2] seems to suggest it is not really a term that is used. Secondly, even if the term is used by reliable sources, it would be about the automobiles specifically made in and for the local market, whereas the target is about automobile manufacturing in Australia both for domestic sale and export. Finally, the term is clearly quite ambigous, and could refer to just about anything. I do note that it is linked to in two articles, Chrysler Hemi-6 Engine and Volvo Redblock Engine, both piped, and in my opinion both should be removed (and I will shortly do so). A7V2 (talk) 08:03, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: The two incoming links have been removed.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 08:04, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
General Motors 50th Anniversary Show
- General Motors 50th Anniversary Show → General Motors (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This was originally an article, redirected in Feb 2013 by Chriq with an edit summary implying a merge took place with General Motors though looking in the edit history from around then I can's see any sign of this. Not mentioned at target now in any case and I think it very unlikely that any is justified. Delete unless others feel it is worth restoring the article and presumably sending to AFD. A7V2 (talk) 02:37, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
- Restore and AfD. This seems like a potentially notable subject and, if it isn't, I'd like to hear AfD say that conclusively. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 06:56, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 07:32, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
Theta angle
- Theta angle → Vacuum angle (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Use of theta to refer to an angle occurs in so many contexts, the current target seems far too specific. I suggest this be retargeted, but am unsure what would be the best target. Note that this is the result of a very old move from 2005. Mdewman6 (talk) 01:41, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
Scuderia Sant'Ambroeus
- Scuderia Sant'Ambroeus → List of Formula One constructors (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Appears to only serve the purpose of being a misleading bluelink, eg it's the only bluelink on List of Formula One constructors#Privateer teams to redirect back to the same article, and also appears in Scuderia and a hatnote at Scuderia Ambrosiana amongst other places. Readers aren't served by being taken to the list article which contains next to no information about the team, and if notable a redlink would encourage article creation, so I think delete. A7V2 (talk) 06:48, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 01:06, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
Cornis
- Cornis → List of Formula One constructors (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned at target (this is primarily since while such a manufacturer probably existed (possibly just as a rebranded Kurtis Kraft), it was not a Formula One car as the Indy 500 was not a Formula One race while it counted to the championship from 1950-60). The only mentions I can find are at List of Formula One fatalities and Bob Cortner though I would struggle to call these even mentions, so I don't think either would be a suitable target unless Bob Cortner could be expanded to include some information about the cars. I also see online that this may be a plausible misspelling of "cornice" but I think deletion would be best. A7V2 (talk) 06:38, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 01:06, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Weak retarget to Moravița (Bârzava) (the target of Cornis River) and hatnote for Cornice and wikt:cornis. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 00:38, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
Rhyolite Park
- Rhyolite Park → Chiricahua National Monument (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
While there is some evidence this was once a name for an area in what is now the national monument (see 1), it does not seem to be a name in current use. The only mention on WP is in a reference in the article, which is currently a dead link. The NPS site does not use this term to refer to anything, and a google search primarily comes up with Rhyolite Regional Park in Colorado (not on WP either). More broadly, as a search term, there are lots of parks that feature Rhyolite. I recommend deletion to avoid confusion. Mdewman6 (talk) 19:37, 1 February 2022 (UTC).
- Comment I searched up Rhyolite Park, and the only thing that it mentions is a children's playground and a park called Rhyolite Regional Park in Castle Rock, Colorado. I am saying comment because I am not sure if it should be deleted. Wait, should it be? StaleGuy22 (talk) 20:45, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 01:03, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
Winter Storm Delphine
- Winter Storm Delphine → 2021–22 North American winter (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Should be deleted as section of the storm on the page was deleted for apparently not being notable enough. . 69.118.232.58 (talk)— Preceding undated comment added 21:39, 31 January 2022
Retarget to 1969–70 South-West Indian Ocean cyclone season#Tropical Storm Delphine which was a winter storm.Jay (talk) 19:45, 7 February 2022 (UTC)- @Jay: That target is a tropical storm, and it took place in the southern hemisphere summer. -- Tavix (talk) 22:37, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- oops.. did not know it was in the southern hemisphere. Delete. Jay (talk) 02:54, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Jay: That target is a tropical storm, and it took place in the southern hemisphere summer. -- Tavix (talk) 22:37, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 00:58, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
Theta vacuum
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was procedural close. Wrong venue. Nom has filed at WP:RM/TR. (non-admin closure) -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 08:17, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Theta vacuum → Vacuum angle (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
I'm proposing deleting this redirect so as to be able to then rename the article as "Theta vacuum" since that is the main relevant topic. "Vacuum angle" is a much less common name for what is being described as it is merely the parameter that indexes the various theta vacua. Most common textbooks and papers usually refer to the theta vacuum rather than vacuum angle as well. OpenScience709 (talk) 00:47, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Wrong venue If you are wanting to rename the page vacuum angle to theta vacuum, then you need to start a requested move discussion. Mdewman6 (talk) 01:33, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- It looks like vaccuum angle was boldly moved by the nom to theta vaccuum over the redirect, then immediately moved back by the same user for some reason. It can't be moved again due to the extra history at the redirect now that it has been listed here. Again, I think bringing to RM is appropriate at this point if a move is the objective. Mdewman6 (talk) 01:50, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.