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Relative size of Aleppo and Damascus
I noticed that this article and the articles List of cities in Syria, Aleppo and Damascus have conflicting information about relative size of these cities. I realise that it must be difficult to obtain the true figures, but it would be good if someone with a knowledge of the most reliable sources on the topic could update the four articles to reflect the same information, and/or add a footnote about the uncertainty. (I have just removed the reference to size in the introductory section of this article.) Laterthanyouthink (talk) 00:29, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
I'm from Aleppo and I think Aleppo is the biggest syrian city Hurricanestudier123 (talk) 22:46, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
- After the start of the civil war in 2011, Damascus has become the largest Syrian city. It is true that Aleppo was the largest, but not any more. George Al-Shami (talk) 00:14, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
No Article about Moshe Maoz- a world recognized expert on Syria
Moshe Maoz as an Israeli SCholar is to my opinion perhaps the only one with minimum or almost no Zionist Bias about Syria. There is however an article on Mordechai Kedar who is deeply biased. Moshe Maos deserves an article, and now more than even for working on a summary of the uprising in Syria. The Hebrew Article is not so good and suffers of many problems as well. 84.111.208.168 (talk) 18:21, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
semi-presidential republic??
"The current constitution of Syria, adopted in 2012, effectively transformed the country into a semi-presidential republic due to the constitutional right for the election of individuals who do not form part of the National Progressive Front." This sentence needs a lot more explication to be understandable for outsiders...! — Preceding unsigned comment added by HilmarHansWerner (talk • contribs) 22:01, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
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In the English language page "Syria", in section "Agrarian reform", 2nd paragraph, change "...established collective barging..." to "...established collective bargaining..." Normal-x (talk) 12:58, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
Country Map Update
Syria claims signifigant portions of territory it does not control, the Golan Heights and Turkey's Hatay province, as these areas are visible on the map, they should be shaded light green as territory claimed but not controlled just as similar areas are on the maps of China, India, Venezuela, Ukraine, Georgia, Japan, Moldova, Somalia, Pakistan,ect.XavierGreen (talk) 16:37, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
I agree with this. Mushteeg (talk) 00:12, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
- There is a difference between claiming and legally owning. The Hatay is recognized internationally as Turkish (despite how it was actually annexed by Turkey). The Golan, on the other hand, is illegally occupied by Israel and this is the international consensus. In short, Syria does not claim Golan, its Israel that does, and actively illegally occupy it. Therefore, if the map will be changed, then the colours of Golan cannot be the same as those of Hatay.--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 13:13, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
Fort Arbea near Hadrian's Wall
"The Aramaic language has been found as far afield as Hadrians Wall in Ancient Britain, with inscriptions written by Assyrian and Aramean soldiers of the Roman Empire.[53]"
1. The source provided does not call them Assyrian or Aramaean.
2. The fort has nothing to with Syria. Its builders were Iraqi. EDIT: Nevermind, they were both Syrian and Iraqi.Julia Domna Ba'al (talk) 12:58, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
3. The inhabitants were Arab, from the [Kingdom of Araba] in central Mesopotamia with Hatra as its capital, near another major Arab city Singara. EDIT: Arabs from Iraq plus Palmyrenes, who were either Arab or Aramaean.Julia Domna Ba'al (talk) 12:58, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
4. Septimius Severus's wars here, from where he relocated the "Tigris Boatmen" to England, were called the Arabian wars.
Source: Glen Bowersock's Roman Arabia (among others).
This sentence should either be removed, or edited to include accurate information. Julia Domna Ba'al (talk) 12:44, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
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The site was inhabited by Arabs from central Mesopotamia but the inscription was from a Palmyrene emigrant (either Arab or Aramaean).
User:Makeandtoss can you edit this line? Make it:
The Aramaic language has been found as far afield as Hadrians Wall in Ancient Britain[1] with an inscription written by a Palmyrene emigrant at the site of Fort Arbeia.[2]
1- same source, the guardian article 2- Palmyra: Mirage in the Desert, Joan Aruz, 2018, page 78.
Julia Domna Ba'al (talk) 09:23, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
- I'll do that. This article was plagued by Assyrian nationalists who shoved Assyria everywhere.--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 09:35, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
Severan Arab matriarchs
This is wrong:
"Her great nephews, also Arameans from Syria, would also become Roman Emperors, the first being Elagabalus and the second, his cousin Alexander Severus."
"The matriarch of the family and Empress of Rome as wife of emperor Septimius Severus was Julia Domna, a Syrian from the city of Emesa"
Domna was not Aramaean, she was Arab, from the Emesan Dynasty which academics agree are an Arab family.
This has to be corrected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Julia Domna Ba'al (talk • contribs) 13:09, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
Arab Presence in Syria
I propose adding a section regarding Arab presence in Syria, from 9th-6th century wars against Assyria, then Achaemenid Arabia, then extensive Arab presence during the Seleucid and early Roman periods. Arab kingdoms like Emesa and Nabataea (which controlled Damascus for a while) are not mentioned.
"According to Strabo, Pliny and Ptolemy, much of the Province of Syria was populated by Arabs" -MCA Macdonald. Julia Domna Ba'al (talk) 13:12, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
This article is used as a reference by some that Arabs never had major influence over Syria pre-Islam, and it's written in a way that encourages that idea. Julia Domna Ba'al (talk) 13:19, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
No mentions of Iturea, Tanukhids (around Aleppo), Salihids, Ghassanids ruling ALL of Syria under Justinian, tribes such as banu kalb, and many other. Jabiya, the cultural center of Arabs pre-Islam is located in modern day Syria. I can write a short section summarizing all this pending approval (don't want to waste me time). Julia Domna Ba'al (talk) 14:37, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
- There should be no subsections for ethnicities or peoples, like every other country article on Wikipedia the history subsections should reflect historical periods. You can write the content about the Arabs in the ancient and classical periods if it is sourced. I know little of the history of Syria but I feel that the Arab Nabataeans and the Arabs of Palmyra are underrepresented. Makeandtoss (talk) 15:18, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
- It says I can't edit if I have less than 500+ edits. Can I write it here and you add it to the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Julia Domna Ba'al (talk • contribs) 15:23, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
- Of course that's what I meant. Add it here with the sources and I will add it to the article. Makeandtoss (talk) 15:28, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
- It says I can't edit if I have less than 500+ edits. Can I write it here and you add it to the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Julia Domna Ba'al (talk • contribs) 15:23, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
new data added
added new section regarding the current critical situation and new developing national crisis situation in Syria. --Sm8900 (talk) 19:30, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
Major economic crisis, 2020
In the "Major economic crisis, 2020" section it says "On 10 June, hundreds of protesters returned to the streets of Sweida for the fourth consecutive day, rallying against the collapse of the country’s economy, as the Syrian pound plummeted to 3,000 to the dollar within the past week.", but when I calculate it here, it says 1 USD = 514 SYP. Am I missing something? --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 05:16, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
- It's volatile and exchanges need time to update. It's normal. Here it says 2000: https://sp-today.com/en/
- Here it says 3500:
- https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/12/syrian-protesters-call-for-assads-downfall-as-economic-crisis-deepens
- Julia Domna Ba'al (talk) 06:22, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
Αn additional problem with this section is that it is very poorly written. Material has been added in haphazard fashion, without any logical flow, and the same thing is repeated over and over again. Most of these additions fall within WP:RECENT and WP:NOTNEWS. The section needs to be drastically trimmed and tightened. Khirurg (talk) 18:35, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
Ba'athist Syria
The current text contains a contradiction on the time period Syria had troops in Lebanon: It says: "In early 1976, Syria entered Lebanon, beginning their thirty-year military presence.[88]" It also says: "In 2005, Syria ended its military presence in Lebanon.[96][97]" I am not a mathematician, but fail to see how this adds up to 33 years... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:DF:5F4F:8734:20CC:4325:E81:F97F (talk) 16:12, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
- You're right, it's 29 years, not 33; I fixed it. George Al-Shami (talk) 23:21, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
Why is there no map (polit. & geogr.)?
Wanted to look up the two places called Bani(y)as on the map of Syria, but there is no map where one is expected. Why? Arminden (talk) 12:45, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
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In the lead, please add “a country in the Levant region of Western Asia”.2603:8081:160A:BE2A:51BF:100C:BF87:623D (talk) 08:47, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
Not done. First sentence is packed as is. Levant is mentioned in the third paragraph, which I think belongs better. ◢ Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 03:18, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
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Add a line about the most recent missile strikes on Syrian land by US president Joe Biden. Edimeme (talk) 13:46, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Sincerely, Deauthorized. (talk) 23:55, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
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Under History - French Mandate (2.5), the second paragraph reads: In 1925, Sultan al-Atrash led a revolt that broke out in the Druze Mountain and spread to engulf the whole of Syria and parts of Lebanon. Al-Atrash won several battles against the French, notably the Battle of al-Kafr on 21 July 1925
The link of Battle of al-Kafr leads to the 1882 Battle of Kafr El Dawwar in Egypt. It should instead lead to the correct Battle of al-Kafr: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_al-Kafr
2001:8F8:1361:7F53:C1B3:A8DA:E792:6E4D (talk) 17:42, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
Corrected SuperiorGoat (talk) 03:18, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
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Please change the hyperlink in Palestine in "In May 1948, Syrian forces invaded Palestine" from Palestine the region to Mandatory Palestine. 188.247.77.83 (talk) 21:04, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Qhnbgjt (talk) 11:45, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
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The largest city in Syria is Aleppo. Not Damascus, which is what is mistakenly written in the introduction of the Wikipedia page of Syria. Not only do many sources prove this https://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/cities/syria But wikipedia's own "list of cities in Syria" has Aleppo as the largest/most populated city in Syria. 94.205.97.129 (talk) 23:10, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- Qhnbgjt (talk) 11:45, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
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