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Lt. Saavik

Alley received a supporting role in the 1982 movie Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, playing Romulan-Vulcan officer Lieutenant Saavik.

That Saavik was half-Romulan is not canon. The novelization of The Wrath of Khan, evidently based on an early script, does state her Romulan ancestry. But because it was never stated in the film, it's not considered canon.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.172.249.123 (talk • contribs)

As if anything in Star Trek is canon. Wildhartlivie (talk) 02:07, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Weight gain/loss

Why is her significant weight loss and weight gain - which I believe also spurned a TV show - not mentioned under her "personal life" section? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.11.102.76 (talk) 09:09, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

YEAH! Why is it not? I guess fat american woman syndrome. 71.99.92.124 (talk) 22:51, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Why mention weight gain or loss at all? This is ridiculous. Only because most Americans are obsessed with their weight, this is no reason at all to include such yellow press non-information in an encyclopedic article. Fail. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.157.48.15 (talk) 23:32, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

NAME

how can her BIRTH name be Alley, when she didnt marry the man until the 70's? shouldn't this be corrected?? ~thanks D —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.77.97.3 (talk) 21:25, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have corrected her birth name to Kirsten Louise Deal. Safiel (talk) 21:52, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Somebody undid my correction of her name due to problems with the source. I will attempt to find a new source to confirm the name and then redo the change. Safiel (talk) 00:20, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kirstie's birth name is Alley, not Deal. Her parents are Robert D. Alley and Lillian M. (nee Heaton) Alley. All of her siblings' names are Alley. Her mother's gravesite can be seen here: [1]. The father's name can be verified using any one of various people-search or genealogical databases. -- Trowbridge (talk) 02:33, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, in fact she is a direct descendant of this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Alley —Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.254.186.228 (talk) 20:51, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As near as I can tell, the fact that she married a man also named "Alley" is a coincidence (or perhaps he is a distant cousin). -- Trowbridge (talk) 02:33, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

New source confirms that, indeed, her first husband Bob Alley was a distant cousin. -- Trowbridge (talk) 14:23, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
So it's Kirsty Alley-Alley 121.200.4.109 (talk) 02:30, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

D.o.B.

Are we sure she was born in 1951? She surely doesn't look 59. Crash Underride 05:20, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, she's been around a long time and frankly, weight can sometimes remove the wrinkles. She graduated high school in 1969, that's sourced. In general, high school graduation is at age 17 or 18. Her birthday is in January, so she would be one of the older members of her class - make her 18. It fits perfectly. It all fits. Wildhartlivie (talk) 07:15, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The picture of her is of Death please fix this —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.156.5.38 (talk) 01:46, 17 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, gee. How about going out and getting us a "Life" picture? huh? Wildhartlivie (talk) 06:36, 17 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Somebody seems to falsely have changed her date of birth to 1950 instead of 1951. I'm gonna change that back to 1951. --Maxl (talk) 12:05, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Emmy quote

The quote from the Emmys is wrong. It's not "for giving me the big one for the last eight years," it's "the man who has given me the big one for the last eight years." If you need confirmation of this, here's the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp3knpyugZ8, go to 1:04. Stop changing it back to the incorrect version. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.231.235.238 (talk) 20:45, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"the man who has given" is correct; if anything, 'for giving' should be BRACKETED. 69.205.163.85 (talk) 20:19, 8 September 2011 (UTC)ilike1954rcamodels[reply]

HEIGHT

Can anybody tell me how tall Kirsty Alley is, i have always thought she was around 5ft 9 but really i have no idea —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.144.36.163 (talk) 20:08, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

More flattering photograph

(Redacted) perhaps it would be more informative if an older photograph was provided, if possible. The one on the page currently is rather unflattering. Damotclese (talk) 22:06, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Filmography

Wrath of Khan's mentioned twice. I assume the second time is for The Voyage Home? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DETHREAPER (talk • contribs) 01:33, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Weight section

Four years and I'm still not sure why this section is on her wikipedia page. It's only around two sentences and is not significant. I wish to remove it from the article. Rumenazvezda (talk) 08:13, 5 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Scientology progress

As loathe as I personally am to bring up Scientology in any form, it seems that, according to Tony Ortega's blog, Kirstie Alley is now an OT 8 Scientologist as of last year. I'd edit the article, but I'm unsure if Ortega's blog counts as a valid source for Wikipedia's purposes. I mean, it's an inconsequential bit of trivia, honestly; outside of anti-$cientology hawks and her fans, who cares about her progress in a loony cult-- but it bothers me to see outdated biographical information. -Xterra1 18:27, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Tweets re WP:BLPPRIMARY and WP:SYN

Alley tweeted something. Independent reliable sources discussed the tweet. Subject to WP:RS and WP:WEIGHT, Wikipedia discusses what the sources say about the tweet. Wikipedia does not determine that the tweet is relevant, meaningful or what it means.

Alley tweets something else that you feel contradicts the earlier tweet or otherwise applies to the topic.

The tweet is a primary source in an article about a living person. Wikipedia can use that source ONLY for basic, non-controversial information about the subject. Typical information sourced this way would be basic biographical info: birth date, simple info on parents, etc.

Including the tweet in any way because you feel it somehow adds/changes/contradicts other info in the article is synthesis. We do not have an independent reliable source stating the tweet is in any way meaningful, though including it is certainly meant to imply it is.

TL;DR: Wikipedia does not pick things a subject said because we feel they say something meaningful about that subject. - SummerPhDv2.0 00:15, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Now we have an independent reliable source for it.
Applying the same reasoning, something she said on The Howard Stern Show, cited to a youtube of the show, is another random quote. Did she say it? Sure. Is it "politics"? Debatable. Is it significant? No. It's one thing she said over the course of several decades. We could pack the article full of everything she's ever said: her opinions on Ted Danson's hair, churros and the "correct" way to hang a roll of toilet paper. - SummerPhDv2.0 16:29, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kirstie Alley

Did you really call her a conspiracy theorist nutjob on the day of her death? As of today I will no longer contribute money or use Wikipedia. This is unconscionable. I guess like many other formerly respected entities Wikipedia has gone woke. Goodbye Lee Kent 2600:1702:1C50:4A20:2036:ADFB:6652:C196 (talk) 02:35, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The vandalism you referred to was removed within less than a minute after its addition to the article. General Ization Talk 02:46, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Please try to define "woke". RPI2026F1 (talk) 02:48, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Don't let the door hit you on your way out. StuZealand (talk) 03:13, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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